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49ers select WR Dante Pettis in 2nd round

Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
I wonder how much of Pettis flamboyant postings and behavior are just to stir the pot, get attention. If he takes the next step and can become dominant he would be media and endorsement favorite. Cat food commercials if nothing else lol.

LOL. I don't know about flamboyant but he is super eccentric and certainly isn't afraid to put himself out there on the regular.

This is the first time I watched this video breakdown:


My original take when we drafted him was that he'd take Taylor's job. I thought he could be a faster, more dynamic slot weapon for Kyle with dynamic return abilities.

This breakdown seems to validate that in year 1 at least.

Concerns: struggles outside the numbers esp. at the X, alligator arms (fearful near potential contact), limited deep ball experience and success, poor at contested catches, no deep speed threat (unlike Goodwin at the X), wins right away at the LOS or doesn't win at all, scouts say: he lacks an alpha personality (we already talked about this so no need to readdress) and must add muscle and play strength to his frame and physical corners can have their way with him on line of scrimmage, veteran CB's watch his hips and aren't shaken, needs to be regularly challenged?, etc.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/5/16/17346448/49ers-draft-picks-2018-dante-pettis-scouting-report

Here's a great interview with Maiocco and he addresses the many teams who questioned his love for the game/committment mostly because of his outside loves.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/5/19/17372452/49ers-draft-picks-2018-dante-pettis-matt-maiocco-podcast

Pettis admits that his interests, which include art and literature may be different than what most are used to and thought that may have had an impact in some team's decisions:

"I'm not shy about what I like outside of football, and so, a lot of people take that as like, "Oh maybe he's not bought into football all the way." They'll kind of try to get that out of me, like, "how committed to football is he?" and all of that. So I think that's the biggest thing they are trying to get. I don't know, I would say that what I wanted to get across worked."

Obviously, teams want to be sure that any prospect is sold on making football their life and career for the next few years. Pettis was quick to point out that his outside interests do not affect his love of the game.

Strengths: natural feel for space and creating it, excellent shake, excellent at creating space in a phone booth esp. near the goal line, soft hands, strong YAC ability and knows how to get into the EZ, was the NCAA record holder for punt return TD's, vision, elusive/slippery, can detach upper body from lower body, cerebral player, versatile route runner, etc.


Does anyone have any video counters and breakdowns on his splits between the slot and X? I know it's a small sample size with us. It looks like he's going to be the starting X going forward but he seems far more comfortable inside the numbers esp. from the slot off the LOS (vs. outside and using the sidelines). But Kyle has so many options at slot now, I'm unsure how much he'd actually be used there going forward. What does he need to work on to grow into a more comfortable X?

Nice sample size.

Cohn cherry picking clips to try to justify his bs.

Dude is the worst.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Nice sample size.

Cohn cherry picking clips to try to justify his bs.

Dude is the worst.

LOL. Cherry-picking? Pettis only had 452 of the 1,054 total offensive snaps last year. When showing strengths and current concerns of players, cherry-picking is what you do to illustrate that. esp. in year 1 when that's all the evidence we have.
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
That's the equivalent of the PFF stat that had Arik Armstead as the #1 ER in the ER class at one point despite the fact that he had about 20 times less attempts. The stat itself is fine but let's compare over 16 games, not 8. I still think he'll be high up there though!

it was 12 games, not 8.

452 snaps. Not even half the offensive snaps.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
That's the equivalent of the PFF stat that had Arik Armstead as the #1 ER in the ER class at one point despite the fact that he had about 20 times less attempts. The stat itself is fine but let's compare over 16 games, not 8. I still think he'll be high up there though!

it was 12 games, not 8.

452 snaps. Not even half the offensive snaps.

That's more career snaps than Jimmy Garopollo (not counting handoffs).
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Cat beast!

He changed his hair again!

Yeah, I kind of like the new rustic look.

I want to warn fans that Maiocco's latest pod, he makes fun of Pettis and his kitty fetish. You may not want to tune in. Then again, Laura Britt just loves him and goes on and on for about 15 minutes about him so there's that. LOL.
Originally posted by KittleSkittle:
That's more career snaps than Jimmy Garopollo (not counting handoffs).



Touche
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Ensatsu:
I'll watch the Cohn breakdown later. Tbh, he was probably seeing the same things I was seeing with Pettis. Only difference is that I'm too cheap to pay for NFL Gamepass just to prove a point.

And frankly, just by me proving a point on some of the deficiencies that Pettis has as a receiver is depressing as a Niner fan to point out anyway. So why bother. I've been critical. Hope he improves this season

And what deficiencies are those?

Per the breakdown, alligator-arming and fear of contact drops, contested catches, struggled more outside the numbers than inside, if he doesn't win initially he won't win at all, outmuscled by press CB's who are more technical in watching his hips vs. his shake moves, gives up some later in routes, run blocking, etc. All these concerns I'm sure will be worked on and refined but much is mentality/will IMHO. Long list of good too.

I was asking Ensatsu. I'm familiar with Cohn's diatribes when it comes to Pettis.

It's more or less the same things I was b***hing about too. But I give him some props for being able to shake loose and get some separation/YAC when hes up against zone.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Cat beast!

He changed his hair again!

Yeah, I kind of like the new rustic look.

I want to warn fans that Maiocco's latest pod, he makes fun of Pettis and his kitty fetish. You may not want to tune in. Then again, Laura Britt just loves him and goes on and on for about 15 minutes about him so there's that. LOL.

If his podcast is full of baseless insinuations about his sexuality, toughness, heart and dedication then I will have a bone to pick lol
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
If his podcast is full of baseless insinuations about his sexuality, toughness, heart and dedication then I will have a bone to pick lol

Oh yeah, he covered those facts too.
Since Pettis is scared, maybe this guy can take his torch?


Originally posted by NCommand:
Since Pettis is scared, maybe this guy can take his torch?


Scared? Lol, that's hilarious. Based on what, Grant Cohn's in depth analysis? (Emphasis on anal, since his opinions are pulled out of his ass).
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Scared? Lol, that's hilarious. Based on what, Grant Cohn's in depth analysis? (Emphasis on anal, since his opinions are pulled out of his ass).

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Scared? Lol, that's hilarious. Based on what, Grant Cohn's in depth analysis? (Emphasis on anal, since his opinions are pulled out of his ass).


Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Scared? Lol, that's hilarious. Based on what, Grant Cohn's in depth analysis? (Emphasis on anal, since his opinions are pulled out of his ass).

No based on his own comments and lack of desire to be one.

Any bets he isn't one going forward?
The idea that Pettis is scared to get hit is still stupid to me. Is his strength being that possession receiver who can go in the middle and hold onto the ball as he's getting lit up? No...

But he's a fuking WR in the NFL as eccentric as he is he was one of the best punt returners in NCAA, I don't buy for a second that he's "afraid" of getting hit. Some players feed off the physical game and actually get some kind of high off getting hit/hitting the defenders trying to tackle them. Pettis clearly isn't like that and there's nothing wrong with that.

The Rams receivers in their Greatest Show on Turf days caught the ball and pretty much fell to the ground. Marvin Harrison had a HOF career doing the same for the Colts. If you're getting open and getting the first down it doesn't matter. We all love the plays where a guy catches the ball then runs through several tackles on his way for the TD. How many of us love the plays where a guy catches the ball, gets hit - fumbles or gets injured?

Using Pettis like Anquan Boldin doesn't make sense for anyone. Making it seem like Pettis isn't very good because of that is a stretch.
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