Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
We need this old shirt Joe wore
https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/comments/avrf8y/i_spent_all_night_recreating_this_amazing_tshirt/
bought one of those today thanks to this post.
Thanks!
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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
We need this old shirt Joe wore
https://www.reddit.com/r/49ers/comments/avrf8y/i_spent_all_night_recreating_this_amazing_tshirt/
Originally posted by genus49:Google it.
And what proof was there of Brady cheating? Just a lot of BS from the NFL to sway public opinion including false stories later retracted with no real error acknowledged.
Every single text they had from Brady was him asking for the balls to be at the low end of the LEGAL limit. Not to mention ever since they were "busted" they went to 4 SBs in 5 years and won 3 of them...
Originally posted by defenderDX:Brady > Montana
Originally posted by defenderDX:Brady > Montana
Originally posted by TheWooLick:This is like calling LeBron or Kobe better than Jordan.
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:Argue all u want so called die hard 49ers fans you never turn on your guy. To me Joe "Cool" Montana will FOREVER be my GOAT. Brady will always take a backseat to Montana everyday of the week, this is where the homer card should come to play for EVERYONE.
Joe Montana > Tom Brady
Originally posted by cciowa:had we kept joe and traded young to the chiefs for thomas... joe and our team would have won two more super bowls in my opinion. maybe, just maybe, with joe around we could have kept haley. who hated young
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:Argue all u want so called die hard 49ers fans you never turn on your guy. To me Joe "Cool" Montana will FOREVER be my GOAT. Brady will always take a backseat to Montana everyday of the week, this is where the homer card should come to play for EVERYONE.
Joe Montana > Tom Brady
Originally posted by wailers15:
Two different eras IMO. Not fair at all to compare Montana to Brady especially without Bradshaw mentioned too. My brother grew up watching all of them. It's very interesting hearing him and my pops rave about Bradshaw and how sick he was back in the day.
Easily you can have GOATS for eras but I don't think it's fair to compare as the game has always evolved. But Joe would have a leg up on this day in age simply put now it's a heavy passing league where it wasn't during Joe's time. Just watch the 84 super bowl and Joe's greatness shines throughout. Simply amazing he was.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:This!
Originally posted by wailers15:
Two different eras IMO. Not fair at all to compare Montana to Brady especially without Bradshaw mentioned too. My brother grew up watching all of them. It's very interesting hearing him and my pops rave about Bradshaw and how sick he was back in the day.
Easily you can have GOATS for eras but I don't think it's fair to compare as the game has always evolved. But Joe would have a leg up on this day in age simply put now it's a heavy passing league where it wasn't during Joe's time. Just watch the 84 super bowl and Joe's greatness shines throughout. Simply amazing he was.
Watching Joe back in the day was a work of art. I remember the Philly game where he got absolutely crushed by their D and somehow still pulled off a comeback win in the 4th.
Originally posted by Buchy:How do you read my paragraph and come away making the "logical fallacy" claim? I did not say other Super Teams didn't exist. In fact, I didn't say anything remotely close to that. My point is that the 49ers were a juggernaut themselves, they're not at a disadvantage going up against other juggernauts. It's a heavyweight bout, not David vs. Goliath.
Originally posted by theduke85:The 49ers had to overcome other super teams, the Bears Defense and Walter Payton, the Giants with LT, the Dallas Cowboys, the Redskins. You make it sound like the Niners were a super team that never encountered another super team and that's your fallacy. Yes, the average franchises were never going to make it to the play-offs in the NFC (the AFC was full of average franchises) but the teams that won the Super Bowl in that era had to make it past 2 or 3 other Super teams to get there - the NFC championship was the real Superbowl.
The problem with your argument is that the 49ers were one of the Super Teams. You're making it sound like they were at a disadvantage. No, they weren't. The 49ers were one of the fortunate teams with an advantage. The other Super Teams were their equals. The 49ers talent dwarfed over tons of lesser teams.
The parity of today means its rare to see stacked teams and that also means that luck, good days and bad days can tilt the result and end in a better team going out in the play-offs for one bad performance because that margin between the two is less. That's not true of the era before the salary cap.But this is a double-edged sword you're swinging. The 2007 Patriots lost the Super Bowl to a Wild Card Giants team (thanks in large part to the fluke helmet catch by David Tyree). Sometimes it helps, sometimes it hurts. It doesn't make winning "easier" or "harder". I'm sure there are teams when the parity has allowed the Patriots to squeak by when they shouldn't have, but conversely there are times they've been burned by it too.