Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Los Angeles Rams

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Not a Jimmy hater, but if he threw that ball to a wide open Deebo down the left sideline the game would have definitely went a different way

Handful of those missed plays. Ah well, time to turn the page

Yes, sir. It is kind of funny that Trey made that same type of throw that would have been needed in the NFCCG for a 76 yard TD this past Friday night though.

Jimmy did make that same throw. With a broken thumb. Aiyuk just couldn't stay in bounds.

Maybe Lance should have played the 4th Q? You know cause Jimmy had a broken thumb and shoulder.

WHAT IF ?!?

Or...

Warner got lucky. Hit Stafford in the head on Wards INT. Wasn't called.

Was a total defensive brain fart after Greenlaw left the game.

Tartt walking around in the backfield. Easy TD pass for Stafford.

Missed assignments. Dropped INT. Ward spears Beckham in the face. Al-Shaair too many stupid plays to name.

But yeah a couple missed Jimmy throws is what killed them.

lol

Yeah no the Warner hit only looks bad from the broadcast angle the all 22 showed that the hit incidental and not deserving of a penalty

You can't tell from the all 22. You can from the sideline replay. Fred puts the crown of his helmet in the back of Staffords ear hole. lol

This is the all-22 part of the play

Completely incidental not a penalty. Stafford was essentially pushed into Warner on the int. return

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Not a Jimmy hater, but if he threw that ball to a wide open Deebo down the left sideline the game would have definitely went a different way

Handful of those missed plays. Ah well, time to turn the page

Yes, sir. It is kind of funny that Trey made that same type of throw that would have been needed in the NFCCG for a 76 yard TD this past Friday night though.

Jimmy did make that same throw. With a broken thumb. Aiyuk just couldn't stay in bounds.

Maybe Lance should have played the 4th Q? You know cause Jimmy had a broken thumb and shoulder.

WHAT IF ?!?

Or...

Warner got lucky. Hit Stafford in the head on Wards INT. Wasn't called.

Was a total defensive brain fart after Greenlaw left the game.

Tartt walking around in the backfield. Easy TD pass for Stafford.

Missed assignments. Dropped INT. Ward spears Beckham in the face. Al-Shaair too many stupid plays to name.

But yeah a couple missed Jimmy throws is what killed them.

lol

Yeah no the Warner hit only looks bad from the broadcast angle the all 22 showed that the hit incidental and not deserving of a penalty

You can't tell from the all 22. You can from the sideline replay. Fred puts the crown of his helmet in the back of Staffords ear hole. lol

This is the all-22 part of the play

Completely incidental not a penalty. Stafford was essentially pushed into Warner on the int. return

k

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Regardless of what the defense did or did not do, how often does 17 points on offense win a game in the NFL? Only 3 teams averaged less than 17 points per game on offense in 2021. Only 4 teams held teams to less than 20 points per game. If you give up only 20 points you'll usually win and if you only score 17 you'll almost always lose in normal weather conditions.

I have brought this point up a few times in the past. If the offense scores less than 24 points and the team loses, that loss is on the offense. If the defense gives up more than 24 points and the team loses, that loss is on the defense. At least that is the way I see it anyway.

That's probably true during the regular season but in the playoffs, defenses often take over. That seems to be true in all sports. It makes sense since the best teams usually have good defenses. By the time you get to the SB or conference championship the defenses are primed and ready. It also comes down to health. Missing one or two key players can be enough to make the difference unless it's a rare blowout like the Niners beatdown of the Broncos.

There isn't always dominant defense in the playoffs. Just look at the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, Bucs and Rams offenses last year in the playoffs. They all averaged over 24 ppg. You wouldn't blame the Bills offense for losing that game against the Chiefs, would you?

In the end their defenses made the big stops when needed. It's not always about how many yards or points a team gives up or scores. It's more about when they do it. Teams and players make mistakes but they can't afford to make them in big games.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Regardless of what the defense did or did not do, how often does 17 points on offense win a game in the NFL? Only 3 teams averaged less than 17 points per game on offense in 2021. Only 4 teams held teams to less than 20 points per game. If you give up only 20 points you'll usually win and if you only score 17 you'll almost always lose in normal weather conditions.

I have brought this point up a few times in the past. If the offense scores less than 24 points and the team loses, that loss is on the offense. If the defense gives up more than 24 points and the team loses, that loss is on the defense. At least that is the way I see it anyway.

That's probably true during the regular season but in the playoffs, defenses often take over. That seems to be true in all sports. It makes sense since the best teams usually have good defenses. By the time you get to the SB or conference championship the defenses are primed and ready. It also comes down to health. Missing one or two key players can be enough to make the difference unless it's a rare blowout like the Niners beatdown of the Broncos.

There isn't always dominant defense in the playoffs. Just look at the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, Bucs and Rams offenses last year in the playoffs. They all averaged over 24 ppg. You wouldn't blame the Bills offense for losing that game against the Chiefs, would you?

In the end their defenses made the big stops when needed. It's not always about how many yards or points a team gives up or scores. It's more about when they do it. Teams and players make mistakes but they can't afford to make them in big games.

I just can't see it that way. No matter what team won the Chiefs/Bills playoff game in the end, it was inspite of their defenses.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yea. So did Jimmy and our running game.

Our run game did suck linemen collided on one play and Trent was compromised..

I have and will continue to challenge that JG sucked.. he had one of his best QBRs of the season and a better one than Stafford.. when JG had a QBR that high we were undefeated all season..

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
This is the all-22 part of the play

Completely incidental not a penalty. Stafford was essentially pushed into Warner on the int. return

lol warner apologized for the cheap shot

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Bunch of Jimmyscuses up in these last few pages.

Our defense held an offense that had a QB who threw for 41TDs, which is good for 2nd most only behind Brady(43), to just 20 points. This offense also had the eventual super bowl MVP and offensive player of the year.

All that offensive power and only 20 points scored. Were y'all expecting the defense to shut them out?

You have a highly paid QB who's a veteran to the system with all his receivers healthy and all he could muster was 17 points.

Umm yea…ima say had our offense done a bit more we wouldn't have had to rely on turnovers to seal the game. Y'all whine about Tartt but Jimmy literally threw it to Ramsey, hit him in the numbers and everything, and Ramsey dropped it.

Jimmy just had to make a few more plays but couldn't.

Bingo and thats why they moved on.

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:

Originally posted by SoCold:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Not a Jimmy hater, but if he threw that ball to a wide open Deebo down the left sideline the game would have definitely went a different way

Handful of those missed plays. Ah well, time to turn the page

Yes, sir. It is kind of funny that Trey made that same type of throw that would have been needed in the NFCCG for a 76 yard TD this past Friday night though.

Jimmy did make that same throw. With a broken thumb. Aiyuk just couldn't stay in bounds.

Maybe Lance should have played the 4th Q? You know cause Jimmy had a broken thumb and shoulder.

WHAT IF ?!?

Or...

Warner got lucky. Hit Stafford in the head on Wards INT. Wasn't called.

Was a total defensive brain fart after Greenlaw left the game.

Tartt walking around in the backfield. Easy TD pass for Stafford.

Missed assignments. Dropped INT. Ward spears Beckham in the face. Al-Shaair too many stupid plays to name.

But yeah a couple missed Jimmy throws is what killed them.

lol

Yeah no the Warner hit only looks bad from the broadcast angle the all 22 showed that the hit incidental and not deserving of a penalty

You can't tell from the all 22. You can from the sideline replay. Fred puts the crown of his helmet in the back of Staffords ear hole. lol

This is the all-22 part of the play

Completely incidental not a penalty. Stafford was essentially pushed into Warner on the int. return

k

open and shut case with the 22

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Ghostofabshelmet:
This is the all-22 part of the play

Completely incidental not a penalty. Stafford was essentially pushed into Warner on the int. return

lol warner apologized for the cheap shot

If that was actually a dirty hit you would've seen the Rams get fired up about it, there was no reaction from the side lines.

I like how in a tightly contested, 3 point loss, people are pointing the finger at specific players or one side of the ball. When it's that close, we're talking about a difference of a few plays in pivotal moments.

There's a lot of blame to go around. But the three most notable things:

• Jimmy just wasn't good enough against a talented defense that was super hungry to win. He barely completed 50% of his passes that day. His yardage totals are buoyed by the fact that our receivers can run well after the catch. Yes, he was pretty banged up, but I thought the game was pretty emblematic of why we're moving on from him. He didn't play well, no excuses here.
• The offensive line got abused. The only guy I give an "excuse" to is Trent Williams, because the guy was playing on one ankle, but the offensive line didn't play well.
• The 49ers defense, as a whole, just didn't have an answer to the short passing game. Our cornerbacks couldn't cover Kupp & OBJ for our vaunted pass rush to get there in time. A couple people mentioned that our defense did its job, limiting the Rams to 20 points... That's true, but I also point out they allowed 11/18 on third down. The Rams were playing ball control offense. The game plan wasn't to try and score 40 points. They wanted to play methodical football: In the end, of their possessions, they only punted once and were intercepted once. Every other possession resulted in a score.

Tartt was just the new Kyle Williams scapegoat. We know what the real issue was in both cases.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yea. So did Jimmy and our running game.

Our run game did suck linemen collided on one play and Trent was compromised..

I have and will continue to challenge that JG sucked.. he had one of his best QBRs of the season and a better one than Stafford.. when JG had a QBR that high we were undefeated all season..

I believe it was a total team failure. I brought up only Jimmy and the run game because one poster was blaming the loss all on Tartt and another was blaming it all on the defense.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Tartt was just the new Kyle Williams scapegoat. We know what the real issue was in both cases.

Kyle Williams wasn't the 'real' issue?? .. my friggin head exploded.. what on earth

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Tartt was just the new Kyle Williams scapegoat. We know what the real issue was in both cases.

thinking crabtree was clutch was our mistake and thinking jimmy is clutch was another mistake. in both cases.. the head coaches also had major brain farts in regards to coaching that hurt as well

Watching the week 18 game.
Member when the 49ers were down 24-17 with 1:27 left and no timeouts? Then Jimmy got magical. lol

Should have never been in the playoffs. Rams ran the ball 3 times and snapped the ball at 10 sec each time then punted. They gave the 49ers an extra 30 sec. They scored the tying TD with 26 sec left. lol

Got lucky week 18. Lucky against the Cowboys. Super lucky against GB. Then the luck ran out.

Jimmy lucky
Dak unlucky
Aaron unlucky
Stafford lucky

Doesn't matter if you have a broken thumb QB a scrambling gunslinger or the league MVP. Just gotta have all the luck.