Originally posted by sacniner:Rich also is very biased and has been called out on bad takes. He's not a "professional" in terms of like a objective Baldy breakdowns
Originally posted by Niners99:
He literally plays Game Pass film in slow mo, from different angles, and rewinds and replays each snap. How is he going to "tailor" it to his narrative? Watch with your own eyes. The OL played like trash. Theres no Jimmy bias involved.
Two people can break down film and come up with different opinions. Happens all the time. It's like when politicians pay economists to tailor data to support a preconceived idea
Check out fan film breakdowner Rich on Twitter. He has a much bigger following as a fan film guy than Jonny and his opinions on Jimmy are vastly different @richjmadrid
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Jan 24, 2021 at 12:45 PM
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Jan 24, 2021 at 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Rich also is very biased and has been called out on bad takes. He's not a "professional" in terms of like a objective Baldy breakdownsOriginally posted by sacniner:Originally posted by Niners99:He literally plays Game Pass film in slow mo, from different angles, and rewinds and replays each snap. How is he going to "tailor" it to his narrative? Watch with your own eyes. The OL played like trash. Theres no Jimmy bias involved.
Two people can break down film and come up with different opinions. Happens all the time. It's like when politicians pay economists to tailor data to support a preconceived idea
Check out fan film breakdowner Rich on Twitter. He has a much bigger following as a fan film guy than Jonny and his opinions on Jimmy are vastly different @richjmadrid
Any fan film breakdowner that is a fan of the team will be biased. That's why it's better to stick with the pros. The all22 breakdown market is saturated and it's unnecessary with the tremendous content from professionals
Overall, Rich provides a needed, different fan film breakdown perspective.
Crock is great also, but he's a professional that actually played the game and coaches
Jan 24, 2021 at 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Where's your vid and breakdown. You challenging jonnydel and saying he made up a stat doesn't hold water. The problem is you refusing to accept jonnydel's video and saying you only listen to professionals when they do they same thing. Analyst and professional's make videos to back up their opinions too, Brian Baldinger has constantly shown that Jimmy is in fact a good QB.
I don't want to spend my leisure time breaking down film. Sounds like s**t. I already work a lot
I listen to professionals like Baldy because their job is to analyze football, and a guy like Baldy doesn't have emotional ties to #10 like many of you guys. Just straight analysis that I enjoy
This is a me thing, but when I watch Jonny's breakdown I know that he is extremely biased in favor of #10 so I can't take it totally seriously. Therefore, I don't watch it. If you guys do that's fine. For me I know the analysis will always be skewed... again it's great for you Jimmy fans who want your ideas reaffirmed
Final point, many professionals have shown issues in Jimmy's game and I think the overall consensus is that he's limited and injury prone (this isn't 2019 anymore). Frankly, a lot more questions than answers to his game. Sorry if that upsets you, but that's reality
You don't wanna spend time to breakdown fil but you wanna challenge jonnydel's evidence and say he's biased, oh okay, make sense.
So what Jimmy has been injured, it's not like those were some small injuries like sprained his toe or broken finger. HIs injuries were pretty severe and when he was injured in that Jets game it should've been a penalty. But yah keep going on and believe what you want right. Funny know one brings up his toughness when he was speared in the head during the Super Bowl and still got up and played.
Jan 24, 2021 at 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by sacniner:Rich also is very biased and has been called out on bad takes. He's not a "professional" in terms of like a objective Baldy breakdowns
Originally posted by Niners99:
He literally plays Game Pass film in slow mo, from different angles, and rewinds and replays each snap. How is he going to "tailor" it to his narrative? Watch with your own eyes. The OL played like trash. Theres no Jimmy bias involved.
Two people can break down film and come up with different opinions. Happens all the time. It's like when politicians pay economists to tailor data to support a preconceived idea
Check out fan film breakdowner Rich on Twitter. He has a much bigger following as a fan film guy than Jonny and his opinions on Jimmy are vastly different @richjmadrid
Any fan film breakdowner that is a fan of the team will be biased. That's why it's better to stick with the pros. The all22 breakdown market is saturated and it's unnecessary with the tremendous content from professionals
Overall, Rich provides a needed, different fan film breakdown perspective.
Crock is great also, but he's a professional that actually played the game and coaches
Contradiction galore!!! lol
Jan 24, 2021 at 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:You don't wanna spend time to breakdown fil but you wanna challenge jonnydel's evidence and say he's biased, oh okay, make sense.
So what Jimmy has been injured, it's not like those were some small injuries like sprained his toe or broken finger. HIs injuries were pretty severe and when he was injured in that Jets game it should've been a penalty. But yah keep going on and believe what you want right. Funny know one brings up his toughness when he was speared in the head during the Super Bowl and still got up and played.
He is biased. Sorry I don't kiss his ass.
I never said Jimmy isn't tough. You can be tough and become injury prone. Bottom line is he has missed about 2/3rds of games with the Niners. We aren't going to be successful if the QB isn't on the field bro.
Jan 24, 2021 at 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by sacniner:Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:Rich also is very biased and has been called out on bad takes. He's not a "professional" in terms of like a objective Baldy breakdownsOriginally posted by sacniner:Originally posted by Niners99:He literally plays Game Pass film in slow mo, from different angles, and rewinds and replays each snap. How is he going to "tailor" it to his narrative? Watch with your own eyes. The OL played like trash. Theres no Jimmy bias involved.
Two people can break down film and come up with different opinions. Happens all the time. It's like when politicians pay economists to tailor data to support a preconceived idea
Check out fan film breakdowner Rich on Twitter. He has a much bigger following as a fan film guy than Jonny and his opinions on Jimmy are vastly different @richjmadrid
Any fan film breakdowner that is a fan of the team will be biased. That's why it's better to stick with the pros. The all22 breakdown market is saturated and it's unnecessary with the tremendous content from professionals
Overall, Rich provides a needed, different fan film breakdown perspective.
Crock is great also, but he's a professional that actually played the game and coaches
Contradiction galore!!! lol
Stick to the UFC thread bro
Jan 24, 2021 at 1:02 PM
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
You don't wanna spend time to breakdown fil but you wanna challenge jonnydel's evidence and say he's biased, oh okay, make sense.
So what Jimmy has been injured, it's not like those were some small injuries like sprained his toe or broken finger. HIs injuries were pretty severe and when he was injured in that Jets game it should've been a penalty. But yah keep going on and believe what you want right. Funny know one brings up his toughness when he was speared in the head during the Super Bowl and still got up and played.
He is biased. Sorry I don't kiss his ass.
I never said Jimmy isn't tough. You can be tough and become injury prone. Bottom line is he has missed about 2/3rds of games with the Niners. We aren't going to be successful if the QB isn't on the field bro.
I don't kiss his ass either but much respect to the work he's put in.
Like I said his injuries were pretty severe, he has shown though that he can start more than 16 games in one season and played almost every snap. But I love how QB's come up for trade and people just turn on their own. Remind me when the next QB the 9ers get and they get injured I should b***h and moan to replace him too. lol
Jan 24, 2021 at 1:03 PM
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by sacniner:Rich also is very biased and has been called out on bad takes. He's not a "professional" in terms of like a objective Baldy breakdowns
Originally posted by Niners99:
He literally plays Game Pass film in slow mo, from different angles, and rewinds and replays each snap. How is he going to "tailor" it to his narrative? Watch with your own eyes. The OL played like trash. Theres no Jimmy bias involved.
Two people can break down film and come up with different opinions. Happens all the time. It's like when politicians pay economists to tailor data to support a preconceived idea
Check out fan film breakdowner Rich on Twitter. He has a much bigger following as a fan film guy than Jonny and his opinions on Jimmy are vastly different @richjmadrid
Any fan film breakdowner that is a fan of the team will be biased. That's why it's better to stick with the pros. The all22 breakdown market is saturated and it's unnecessary with the tremendous content from professionals
Overall, Rich provides a needed, different fan film breakdown perspective.
Crock is great also, but he's a professional that actually played the game and coaches
Contradiction galore!!! lol
Stick to the UFC thread bro
Lol personal shot fired.
Jan 24, 2021 at 1:10 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by sacniner:Originally posted by Kolohe:Where's your vid and breakdown. You challenging jonnydel and saying he made up a stat doesn't hold water. The problem is you refusing to accept jonnydel's video and saying you only listen to professionals when they do they same thing. Analyst and professional's make videos to back up their opinions too, Brian Baldinger has constantly shown that Jimmy is in fact a good QB.
I don't want to spend my leisure time breaking down film. Sounds like s**t. I already work a lot
I listen to professionals like Baldy because their job is to analyze football, and a guy like Baldy doesn't have emotional ties to #10 like many of you guys. Just straight analysis that I enjoy
This is a me thing, but when I watch Jonny's breakdown I know that he is extremely biased in favor of #10 so I can't take it totally seriously. Therefore, I don't watch it. If you guys do that's fine. For me I know the analysis will always be skewed... again it's great for you Jimmy fans who want your ideas reaffirmed
Final point, many professionals have shown issues in Jimmy's game and I think the overall consensus is that he's limited and injury prone (this isn't 2019 anymore). Frankly, a lot more questions than answers to his game. Sorry if that upsets you, but that's reality
You don't wanna spend time to breakdown fil but you wanna challenge jonnydel's evidence and say he's biased, oh okay, make sense.
So what Jimmy has been injured, it's not like those were some small injuries like sprained his toe or broken finger. HIs injuries were pretty severe and when he was injured in that Jets game it should've been a penalty. But yah keep going on and believe what you want right. Funny know one brings up his toughness when he was speared in the head during the Super Bowl and still got up and played.
Sacniner's logic is akin to flatearthers' logic. He knows what he knows, and his opinions are the only correct thing. There's no point in arguing with him; he ignores evidence as biased and when asked to show his own evidence contrary to what we know, he refuses and claims that would be "too boring".
Jan 24, 2021 at 1:11 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:Lol personal shot fired.
Well, tbh you came at me first. Somewhat personal shot cause I don't agree with you. But I am tough enough to handle a little heat. I won't tattle tale. If you wanna come in hot, I would just ask you to have the same outlook
Jan 24, 2021 at 1:12 PM
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Originally posted by ElDannMann:Sacniner's logic is akin to flatearthers' logic. He knows what he knows, and his opinions are the only correct thing. There's no point in arguing with him; he ignores evidence as biased and when asked to show his own evidence contrary to what we know, he refuses and claims that would be "too boring".
All this cause I don't like Jimmy Garoppolo as much as you smh
Jan 24, 2021 at 1:19 PM
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lol personal shot fired.
Well, tbh you came at me first. Somewhat personal shot cause I don't agree with you. But I am tough enough to handle a little heat. I won't tattle tale. If you wanna come in hot, I would just ask you to have the same outlook
Oh stop it, no I didn't man. But it's cool bro no problem.
Jan 24, 2021 at 1:21 PM
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Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by ElDannMann:
Sacniner's logic is akin to flatearthers' logic. He knows what he knows, and his opinions are the only correct thing. There's no point in arguing with him; he ignores evidence as biased and when asked to show his own evidence contrary to what we know, he refuses and claims that would be "too boring".
All this cause I don't like Jimmy Garoppolo as much as you smh
No at all, I'm just saying that if you're gonna refute jonnydel's video and call it biased, show us your video and unbiased opinion. That is all.
Jan 24, 2021 at 1:24 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by sacniner:Originally posted by ElDannMann:Sacniner's logic is akin to flatearthers' logic. He knows what he knows, and his opinions are the only correct thing. There's no point in arguing with him; he ignores evidence as biased and when asked to show his own evidence contrary to what we know, he refuses and claims that would be "too boring".
All this cause I don't like Jimmy Garoppolo as much as you smh
No at all, I'm just saying that if you're gonna refute jonnydel's video and call it biased, show us your video and unbiased opinion. That is all.
If I made a video that didn't support your preconceived notions, you wouldn't accept it.
I have posted analysis from professionals that should carry more weight than any fan's opinion on here and you guys don't care. I literally can't change anyone's mind that is emotionally invested in #10
Jan 24, 2021 at 1:26 PM
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Originally posted by sacniner:Originally posted by ElDannMann:Sacniner's logic is akin to flatearthers' logic. He knows what he knows, and his opinions are the only correct thing. There's no point in arguing with him; he ignores evidence as biased and when asked to show his own evidence contrary to what we know, he refuses and claims that would be "too boring".
All this cause I don't like Jimmy Garoppolo as much as you smh
No, I want you to prove to me that Jimmy is bad. Not because you say so. Not because so-and-so said so. Show me data. Show me the analysis. Just like Jonnydel does.
The data and the video show that Jimmy takes way too many sacks and is always injured. Two huge red flags. He also throws some "wtf INTs". He's also not the most mobile in the pocket.
However, on the flip side, Jimmy is great at converting 3rd downs. Even 3rd and longs. He can duel with the best QBs in the league when needed, yet most of the time we don't need him to because of our strong run game. Hell, against KC in the Super Bowl, Jimmy's statline and Mahomes' statline were basically the same even after the conclusion of the game. Yet Mahomes is awarded an MVP and Jimmy's skills are now being questioned.
Again, Jimmy G is a borderline top 10 QB in the NFL when healthy. I'm all for moving on from him if we can land a clear and obvious upgrade from him, but Stafford is not a clear and obvious upgrade.