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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Fair statement overall...I just don't want the roster to be worse overall because we decided to keep Jimmy over a handful of other players (and not being able to upgrade) due to cap restraints.

That's the elephant in the room. I really wonder if Jimmy would be willing to take a pay cut and stay with the Niners when he considers the offense that fits him. He also needs to consider his age (30 next year) and his injury history. That could really bring down his market value. Most GMs around the league don't view him as a difference maker from what I've heard. I don't think he could get much on the open market and his trade value is in question with the injuries he's' had the last 3 years. His best bet might be to agree to 1 or 2 years at a reduced salary and then try and prove he can stay on the field and improve his overall play. If he doesn't want to negotiate then I let him walk.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Nov 25, 2020 at 9:51 AM ]
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Niners99:
He's never lost back to back games in his career. It's insane how dumb fans are getting about this. He's clearly been hurt this year. Throwing him back for some rookie or some washed vet is an awful idea.

Probably because he's only played one full season throughout his career lol

32 career starts is a pretty big sample size for not losing back to back games.

Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

When it comes to politics you somewhat logical and try to look at the bigger picture. Why is it so different with Jimmy lol
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Jimmy not playing and not being able to avoid injury is my biggest concern with him. He already lost out on 3.5 years holding a clipboard for Brady. Then he lost 2018 to the ACL and now he lost half of 2020 to the ankle. That's 4+ years not playing, not getting live reps to develop. Using hindsight, I think him balling out going 5-0 to end 2017, then getting a large contract based off of those 5 games was a terrible thing to happen to him from the standpoint of perception.

His development path should have been similar to Brady, RWilson, and Big Ben. Young QBs on contending teams, supported by a run game/defense as they played the role of game manager while developing into the passers that they are now. But those three QBs didn't have large contracts when they were young in their development, so when they game managed their way to their first SB during those early years, it was okay that they didn't throw for 4K yards - they were young and developing. There were no expectations to be THE focal point of the offense. Jimmy with his large contract does not get that patience from the fanbase.

I am not saying Jimmy will be the QB Brady/Wilson/Ben is, I am saying his development path should have been like theirs. Some will say that Jimmy is not a young QB - age wise I agree. But playing time wise, he is not the typical 30 year old QB that has had 5+ seasons of starting under his belt.

He needs to play to develop, but this habit of missing time due to injury is severely hurting his development.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?

Not if he can get back to winning which I think he can as he had shown he can with Jimmy.

Why get rid of either?
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by Niners99:
He's never lost back to back games in his career. It's insane how dumb fans are getting about this. He's clearly been hurt this year. Throwing him back for some rookie or some washed vet is an awful idea.

Probably because he's only played one full season throughout his career lol

32 career starts is a pretty big sample size for not losing back to back games.

Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

When it comes to politics you somewhat logical and try to look at the bigger picture. Why is it so different with Jimmy lol

Isn't the big picture about the team winning like crazy with Jimmy and sucking balls without him?
[ Edited by TheWooLick on Nov 25, 2020 at 10:48 AM ]
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?

Not if he can get back to winning which I think he can as he had shown he can with Jimmy.

Why get rid of either?

So your saying we should keep Jimmy and Kyle and we will be a better team next year because of it?
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?

Not if he can get back to winning which I think he can as he had shown he can with Jimmy.

Why get rid of either?

So your saying we should keep Jimmy and Kyle and we will be a better team next year because of it?
in a perfect CAP world we might be.. but it's not so we need to make moves
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?

Not if he can get back to winning which I think he can as he had shown he can with Jimmy.

Why get rid of either?

So your saying we should keep Jimmy and Kyle and we will be a better team next year because of it?

Yes, don't ditch Jimmy until you have a replacement who the team can win with like they win with Jimmy.

What are you saying?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?

Not if he can get back to winning which I think he can as he had shown he can with Jimmy.

Why get rid of either?

So your saying we should keep Jimmy and Kyle and we will be a better team next year because of it?
in a perfect CAP world we might be.. but it's not so we need to make moves

Being in cap hell after one winning season that followed years of low spending and supposed rollovers of cap space is pretty sad.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?

Not if he can get back to winning which I think he can as he had shown he can with Jimmy.

Why get rid of either?

So your saying we should keep Jimmy and Kyle and we will be a better team next year because of it?

Yes, don't ditch Jimmy until you have a replacement who the team can win with like they win with Jimmy.

What are you saying?

I'm saying Jimmy is the best of 3 bad QBs and that the QB position should be upgraded this off season.
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?

Not if he can get back to winning which I think he can as he had shown he can with Jimmy.

Why get rid of either?

So your saying we should keep Jimmy and Kyle and we will be a better team next year because of it?
in a perfect CAP world we might be.. but it's not so we need to make moves

Being in cap hell after one winning season that followed years of low spending and supposed rollovers of cap space is pretty sad.
We're not in cap hell per say.. but it's the Covid storm and lost shared NFL revenue which pays the players.

They say the cap (which has increased every year) can drop from the current 200 to 175. keeping JG will account for 24m
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?

Not if he can get back to winning which I think he can as he had shown he can with Jimmy.

Why get rid of either?

So your saying we should keep Jimmy and Kyle and we will be a better team next year because of it?

Yes, don't ditch Jimmy until you have a replacement who the team can win with like they win with Jimmy.

What are you saying?

I'm saying Jimmy is the best of 3 bad QBs and that the QB position should be upgraded this off season.

Who do you have in mind?
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?

Not if he can get back to winning which I think he can as he had shown he can with Jimmy.

Why get rid of either?

So your saying we should keep Jimmy and Kyle and we will be a better team next year because of it?

Yes, don't ditch Jimmy until you have a replacement who the team can win with like they win with Jimmy.

What are you saying?

I'm saying Jimmy is the best of 3 bad QBs and that the QB position should be upgraded this off season.

Who do you have in mind?

I'll let you know when the draft positions are set.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Meanwhile, Kyle is 5-23 in games Jimmy G doesn't start.

Better replace Jimmy.

So you're saying we should fire Kyle?

Not if he can get back to winning which I think he can as he had shown he can with Jimmy.

Why get rid of either?

So your saying we should keep Jimmy and Kyle and we will be a better team next year because of it?

Yes, don't ditch Jimmy until you have a replacement who the team can win with like they win with Jimmy.

What are you saying?

I'm saying Jimmy is the best of 3 bad QBs and that the QB position should be upgraded this off season.

Who do you have in mind?

I'll let you know when the draft positions are set.

Thanks, I feel the same way. I stand by what I said earlier. If there is a guy they covet in the first and he's there, take him, but imo that still means Jimmy is our guy next year.
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