Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Okay, so having a QB with a 75% win average in the games he's started is the new baseline for being average. Got it.
If that true we should have never traded Alex smith? Dude was winning all kinds of games with Harbs Baltimore should have never moved on from Flacco he won a ton of games. Smith in KC. Dalton won a ton of games.
If you think it's only the QB that wins games, then I don't want to hear a single excuse for Jimmy when we lose a game going forward. Fair?
Come on man...you know I respect your posting but you're reaching so hard i'm afraid you'll hurt something.
Alex Smith had years of starting experience. He was what he was. And we saw fully well what he was capable of in 2011.
Yes we saw the excellent Alex Smith who finished the Saints in spectacular way but we also saw the 95% of Alex Smith in the middle of that game, before the late heroics in a do or die situation and the 95% of Alex Smith in the Giants game. The game where the defense kept giving the offense the ball back and we just couldn't do squat with it because Alex was playing too safe.
When you have a QB who plays too safe you better hope the rest of your team is having their A game. Cuz if any of them have an off game your odds of winning drop significantly.
For all of Jimmy's success on 3rd down that's like the opposite of Alex. How many times did Alex throw it short of the down marker? How many 3 and outs did we have in those playoff games with him?
I do think you can't make blanket statements about win % because here are just some situations which clearly make it easier for QBs to rack up the wins but outside of last year Jimmy's wins have all been pretty quality.
The two wins he had with the Pats were when that offense was missing some of their heavy hitters. Edelman was banged up and Gronk wasn't even playing. Sure they were a still pretty good team(won SB that year) but he certainly did his part in those two wins.
The 5 wins he had here in 2017 we all know about. Say what you will about sample size those were super impressive and the impact he had on the whole roster was crazy...which is why he got the contract he got.
Some QBs just seem to win more often than not. Jimmy has done that. Will he continue to do that? We'll see but in a sport where wins are so important due to lack of games, best of X series in the playoffs...you don't replace a guy who somehow keeps getting you a W at the end of the game.
And lastly to finish up how silly your Alex Smith comparison was...Alex's win % with us was 51%. With the KC wins he's at 58%
Flacco with the Ravens was at 58%
Dalton with Cinci was at 53%
I'm sure as Jimmy plays more his numbers will level out a bit. I mean this season alone is a perfect example with all the injuries. We're 4-3 but really could be undefeated if injuries aren't a fact. Hell even with the injuries we really should be 6-1 if we have a couple of plays go differently.
But UNTIL those numbers level off replacing him is a slippery slope. And you better be sure you have a Mahomes type QB waiting in the wings.