Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by genus49:
You know very well the comparison wasn't Jimmy vs Mahomes. It was nobody gives Mahomes sh*t for getting those easy forward handoffs for big gains or TDs.
Just because he airs the ball out like crazy doesn't change the fact that those plays are done by Mahomes and any other QB.
There are things to complain about with Jimmy but dogging him for executing the game plan isn't it.
And btw when Mahomes was hurt last year he was limited and not as effective as he was when healthy. Andy Reid called plays accordingly. That's just smart football.
I agree with you a lot. But on the flipside, this type of game should not be glorified either. Jimmy's throw to Kittle was outstanding and a major reason we won. He should get all the praise for that. It was a huge moment. But like I said in a previous post, a huge majority of Jimmy's success yesterday came from simple passes that anyone should be able to complete.
Kyle had a gameplan, and Jimmy executed it very well for the most part. That's really all we can ask at this point. If this is the same gameplan we have all season long, there is a clear problem.
I'm not glorifying the game yesterday. He wasn't superman. He executed the plays, plays that for the large part are easy for any QB to execute.
However he also had some impressive moments, still playing on an ankle that isn't 100% and in key moments. That's one thing that Jimmy has done fairly consistently in his playing career. It's not always pretty and at times it's scheme/lucky but results cannot be argued, which is Jimmy tends to come up big on those 3rd/4th down moments.
At some point you have to tip you hat to the guy and realize however he seems to get it done, it's getting done.
Obviously the Dolphins game was a disaster and he didn't do that well in the Arizona game either but IMO that game is a hard read with Deebo/Aiyuk out and Kittle being hurt most of the game(and yes I remember how Kittle got hurt)
I understand there are people who don't want a QB who just carries out a gameplan because when gameplans aren't great things don't look as good. People want their Mahomes/Wilson QB who can play great within the gameplan but also make spectacular plays off script. And yeah I'd love that as well.
But my biggest thing is if Jimmy is showing ENOUGH to win games fairly consistently then why do we want to try and replace him with an unknown? Yes the excitement of unknown and potential of being even better is enticing. But finding those elite QBs isn't easy.
IMO unless Jimmy plays like the Dolphins Jimmy consistently over the course of the rest of this season then moving away from him is a big mistake. People need to forget the $ he's making. End of the day if he's winning then he's worth it.
Now if we want to grab a guy in the 2nd/3rd round to groom? Hell yeah, sign me up. Because then you get to see them both in practice/preseason and if Jimmy gets hurt then you get a guy who can steal his job it's an easy decision.
Outright getting rid of Jimmy and going with an unknown doesn't make sense to me.
