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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Agree 816, and i have spent hours this offseason watching those last 5 games, over and over and , well, over...and come up with we win all 5 of those 3 pt or less games. All 5. I specifically watched each game with that in mind...could jimmmy have won them, and i came up with yes.

Now, as for the final 5 games those were all legit wins but one...obviously the Rams game where they held out their 4 or 5 best starters. If they all had played, well, i am not so certain who would have won that game. Perhaps the nod goes to the rams. So say 5 Ws plus CJs W, plus 4 of the last 5 , not all 5 ...comes to 10 Ws. The only game really questionable to me is that Rams game, jimmy's game. Just too much talent for us in that game. Cannot wait for the two rubber matches this yr, tho. They got more awesome talent that is ready. We got a lot of new talent but Green. Still and all those should be fine, fine, games. Maybe a W at each home court. I don't see either team taking both. If that happens, whoever it is....would be my favorite in the SB.

And the interesting things about that is we are being rated this yr based on our actual Ws. Nobody has looked at those 5 consecutive 3 pts or less losses with Jimmy behind center. I just can't see how we lose any of them. So while most are using our 6 W season as a starter, i am counting us a 10 W team. Makes a big difference in betting lines....but overall, ratings people are not factoring those 5 close losses in...and should be. Just my opinion. I really don't like their interior DL nor their CBs. Now if some of those guys put it on cruise control, and figure they already got their bucks....well then maybe we have an advantage. We've seen Jimmy play and we know what he plus kyle means to the game. A lot of betting fans, prognosticators, sports talking heads...they aren't factoring the kyle/jimmy factor in. Big mistake. BIG mistake. I haven't come up with a way to factor that duo in, but it is worth a lot...and most folks don't even know about it.

The most fascinating thing coming up for me is whether we have so much new that we just aren't ready to play the first 4 games. Does anyone really doubt kyle won't have this team ready by season opener. 4-4 is being bandied about. I don't see that. I think we steam roll coming out of the chute. But nobody really knows til the games are played. This may sound a bit strange, but i expect jimmy to be better than last yrs 5 games. Better. Yeah.

You know it when you see.....that was the reaction I got to seeing Jimmy navigate the offense. It's hasnt looked that way here since Jeff. Now don't get me wrong, it was special with Kap in 12 but it wasn't a surgical from the pocket pure WCO pass game like what we saw to play out the stretch in '17.

I've made no apologies that Kyle was my guy for years (I've wanted him in some form or fashion since 2014....would have been an OC then and he was the primary reason I wanted Mike Shanahan in the '15 and '16 HC hunts). Because of this, I spent the first part of '17 defending Kyle and preaching patience because even in the loses the Offense was working because guys were open. The QB wasn't getting them the ball.

Now, with one big change the offense goes from what we've pretty much seen for the last decade and a half to an offense that was producing 28ppg and 410ypg. Those are the good old days types of production. What thrills me is this was accomplished with out the good old days type of roster talent. It was special....our 2017 roster had no business winning 5 straight games against 2 top 10 defenses and 3 playoff teams. Now if you want to s**t on the Rams win that fine....but I've never seen a problem with it because we beat the brakes off of them. Again, with our lack of roster talent in year 1 of a ground up rebuild that sort of curb stomping just shouldn't happen.

Now, the end of last year doesn't guarantee s**t....but I trust Kyle and think the partnership with Jimmy is gonna be special. Personally, I'm hoping for at least 9-10 wins and think a playoff spot is doable.
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Nah, those games are meaningless. They don't count towards this year's record and we were already out of playoff contention when they happened last year. Largely meaningless. They were slightly useful as a tool for evaluating some of the players.

You're wrong....do better.
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Nah, those games are meaningless. They don't count towards this year's record and we were already out of playoff contention when they happened last year. Largely meaningless. They were slightly useful as a tool for evaluating some of the players.

You're wrong....do better.

Couldn't have said it better
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Nah, those games are meaningless. They don't count towards this year's record and we were already out of playoff contention when they happened last year. Largely meaningless. They were slightly useful as a tool for evaluating some of the players.

You're wrong....do better.

Couldn't have said it better

He did break the news though that our record last year doesn't carryover
Boring......
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Nah, those games are meaningless. They don't count towards this year's record and we were already out of playoff contention when they happened last year. Largely meaningless. They were slightly useful as a tool for evaluating some of the players.

You're wrong....do better.

So what do they mean towards this year then? We're still 0-0 this year right now regardless of those wins. We didn't make the playoffs last year because of those wins. So what do they matter for us now? None of the teams we beat last year were even any good except 2 of them and those teams didn't give a s**t when they played us. The QBs we played against were Trubisky, Savage, Mariota, Bortles, and the Rams backup QB lol. Are you guys going to still be hanging your hat on those 5 meaningless wins if we start 0-1 this year? 0-2? Will we still be talking about those 5 wins 2 or 3 years from now?
[ Edited by Jack49ers84 on Jul 24, 2018 at 3:01 PM ]
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
So what do they mean towards this year then? We're still 0-0 this year right now regardless of those wins. We didn't make the playoffs last year because of those wins. So what do they matter for us now?

Seriously
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
So what do they mean towards this year then? We're still 0-0 this year right now regardless of those wins. We didn't make the playoffs last year because of those wins. So what do they matter for us now? None of the teams we beat last year were even any good except 2 of them and those teams didn't give a s**t when they played us. The QBs we played against were Trubisky, Savage, Mariota, Bortles, and the Rams backup QB lol. Are you guys going to still be hanging your hat on those 5 meaningless wins if we start 0-1 this year? 0-2? Will we still be talking about those 5 wins 2 or 3 years from now?

The edited reply is even funnier

What is funny though is with CJ, we maybe win 1 game against those QBs and those teams you're s**tting on. 2017 was a 2-14 type team until one position changed.
[ Edited by Niners816 on Jul 24, 2018 at 3:09 PM ]
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
So what do they mean towards this year then? We're still 0-0 this year right now regardless of those wins. We didn't make the playoffs last year because of those wins. So what do they matter for us now?

I mean if we're going off records then we we're 5-0 under JG...hard for him to win games for us the 1st 13 weeks when he's not on the team. I provided numerious amounts of stats backup up how well this team performed with him at the helm...the fact that we lost like 5 straight games buy 3 or fewer pts with poor QB play leads fans to believe we could have won some of those with him. Common sense.

And we're talking about performance and how this team did with him as the starter...there's nothing else to talk about until 9/9
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
So what do they mean towards this year then? We're still 0-0 this year right now regardless of those wins. We didn't make the playoffs last year because of those wins. So what do they matter for us now? None of the teams we beat last year were even any good except 2 of them and those teams didn't give a s**t when they played us. The QBs we played against were Trubisky, Savage, Mariota, Bortles, and the Rams backup QB lol. Are you guys going to still be hanging your hat on those 5 meaningless wins if we start 0-1 this year? 0-2? Will we still be talking about those 5 wins 2 or 3 years from now?

The edited reply is even funnier

So is that a yes? We won 5 games at the end of last year! Great! They didn't get us into the playoffs, they're historically not an indicator of future success, and they were mostly against bad teams or teams that didn't care that much. They felt good at the time, but it's time to move on. We also won a lot of games to close out the 2006 and 2008 seasons and then sucked in 2007 and 2009.

Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
Nah, those games are meaningless. They don't count towards this year's record and we were already out of playoff contention when they happened last year. Largely meaningless. They were slightly useful as a tool for evaluating some of the players.

You're wrong....do better.

So what do they mean towards this year then? We're still 0-0 this year right now regardless of those wins. We didn't make the playoffs last year because of those wins. So what do they matter for us now? None of the teams we beat last year were even any good except 2 of them and those teams didn't give a s**t when they played us. The QBs we played against were Trubisky, Savage, Mariota, Bortles, and the Rams backup QB lol. Are you guys going to still be hanging your hat on those 5 meaningless wins if we start 0-1 this year? 0-2? Will we still be talking about those 5 wins 2 or 3 years from now?

Seriously guy. what is your deal?
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
So what do they mean towards this year then? We're still 0-0 this year right now regardless of those wins. We didn't make the playoffs last year because of those wins. So what do they matter for us now? None of the teams we beat last year were even any good except 2 of them and those teams didn't give a s**t when they played us. The QBs we played against were Trubisky, Savage, Mariota, Bortles, and the Rams backup QB lol. Are you guys going to still be hanging your hat on those 5 meaningless wins if we start 0-1 this year? 0-2? Will we still be talking about those 5 wins 2 or 3 years from now?

The edited reply is even funnier

What is funny though is with CJ, we maybe win 1 game against those QBs and those teams you're s**tting on. 2017 was a 2-14 type team until one position changed.

Hahahaha...Right I also didn't realize Jimmy was playing vs other teams offense as well. Jags #1 D, bears 10th overall, Titans 13th. The Texans D was banged up yet were in the top 20.
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Seriously guy. what is your deal?

He just wants it known that previous years records don't carry forward

Oh, and thoses playoff teams we played in December didn't try because you know getting into the playoffs (Tennessee) and playoff seeding (Jax) doesn't matter.
Originally posted by Jack49ers84:
So is that a yes? We won 5 games at the end of last year! Great! They didn't get us into the playoffs, they're historically not an indicator of future success, and they were mostly against bad teams or teams that didn't care that much. They felt good at the time, but it's time to move on. We also won a lot of games to close out the 2006 and 2008 seasons and then sucked in 2007 and 2009.

You do realize football is a team sport? Jimmy Garoppolo's play was NOT a reason as to why SF didn't make the playoffs. Blake Bortles play was NOT a reason as to why the Jags made the playoffs
Jimmy got swag. Who would've thunk it
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