QB Josh Rosen

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by LVJay:
I hope this dude can learn the system quick and (at the least) be a real good back up... I'm not thrilled with Mullens or Beathard

Agree, I haven't seen those plays that make QB's starters. Unfortnately. For now they are good backups and system QB's for Kyle's offense. Josh hopefully might show some spark that can challenge Jimmy and push Jimmy to be better during training cap and pre-season play. Right now neither one can really threaten Jimmy in this offense.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
If we bring back CJ or Nick over Rosen as a backup I will be frustrated. Rosen has better talent than the two of them combined.
In his 1st 2 seasons, each year he was on the worst O-Line in football with a rookie HC.
I want to see what Kyle can do with him.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
If we bring back CJ or Nick over Rosen as a backup I will be frustrated. Rosen has better talent than the two of them combined.
In his 1st 2 seasons, each year he was on the worst O-Line in football with a rookie HC.
I want to see what Kyle can do with him.

Agree in principle about Rosen. I haven't seen him play much. I haven't even seen his highlights from the other teams. But I think he does have more physical talent than either BeatHard and definitely Mullens.

I don' t know if we can get any compensatory draft picks for the potential loss of BeatHard or Mullens, but it would be nice. BeatHard is a Unrestricted FA, and Mullens is a restricted FA. If Kyle can develop Rosen the way he developed Mullens, we might have something there!

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
If we bring back CJ or Nick over Rosen as a backup I will be frustrated. Rosen has better talent than the two of them combined.
In his 1st 2 seasons, each year he was on the worst O-Line in football with a rookie HC.
I want to see what Kyle can do with him.

Agree in principle about Rosen. I haven't seen him play much. I haven't even seen his highlights from the other teams. But I think he does have more physical talent than either BeatHard and definitely Mullens.

I don' t know if we can get any compensatory draft picks for the potential loss of BeatHard or Mullens, but it would be nice. BeatHard is a Unrestricted FA, and Mullens is a restricted FA. If Kyle can develop Rosen the way he developed Mullens, we might have something there!

He puts more velocity on his INTs

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by wysiwyg:

Yeah, it takes at least a year for a pitcher to recover from Tommy John. I can't recall a QB ever getting a UCL injury.

Same here. I don't know too much about the injury, but any arm injury might affect arm strength and accuracy. He might be healthy, but if there is some sort of nerve damage or weakened ligaments - god knows what that would do to his throwing ability.

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by wysiwyg:
Yeah, it takes at least a year for a pitcher to recover from Tommy John. I can't recall a QB ever getting a UCL injury.

Same here. I don't know too much about the injury, but any arm injury might affect arm strength and accuracy. He might be healthy, but if there is some sort of nerve damage or weakened ligaments - god knows what that would do to his throwing ability.

Didn't Rothlessburger have tommy John last year and played all of 2020?

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
If we bring back CJ or Nick over Rosen as a backup I will be frustrated. Rosen has better talent than the two of them combined.
In his 1st 2 seasons, each year he was on the worst O-Line in football with a rookie HC.
I want to see what Kyle can do with him.

Agree in principle about Rosen. I haven't seen him play much. I haven't even seen his highlights from the other teams. But I think he does have more physical talent than either BeatHard and definitely Mullens.

I don' t know if we can get any compensatory draft picks for the potential loss of BeatHard or Mullens, but it would be nice. BeatHard is a Unrestricted FA, and Mullens is a restricted FA. If Kyle can develop Rosen the way he developed Mullens, we might have something there!

He puts more velocity on his INTs

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by LVJay:

I hope this dude can learn the system quick and (at the least) be a real good back up... I'm not thrilled with Mullens or Beathard

Agree, I haven't seen those plays that make QB's starters. Unfortnately. For now they are good backups and system QB's for Kyle's offense. Josh hopefully might show some spark that can challenge Jimmy and push Jimmy to be better during training cap and pre-season play. Right now neither one can really threaten Jimmy in this offense.

good backups

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by LVJay:

I hope this dude can learn the system quick and (at the least) be a real good back up... I'm not thrilled with Mullens or Beathard

Agree, I haven't seen those plays that make QB's starters. Unfortnately. For now they are good backups and system QB's for Kyle's offense. Josh hopefully might show some spark that can challenge Jimmy and push Jimmy to be better during training cap and pre-season play. Right now neither one can really threaten Jimmy in this offense.

good backups

Good backups = camp fodder. Rosen has been awful as a starter, but should easily beat Mullens and Beathard in camp based on talent alone. If he can't his career is over.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
If we bring back CJ or Nick over Rosen as a backup I will be frustrated. Rosen has better talent than the two of them combined.
In his 1st 2 seasons, each year he was on the worst O-Line in football with a rookie HC.
I want to see what Kyle can do with him.

Agree in principle about Rosen. I haven't seen him play much. I haven't even seen his highlights from the other teams. But I think he does have more physical talent than either BeatHard and definitely Mullens.

I don' t know if we can get any compensatory draft picks for the potential loss of BeatHard or Mullens, but it would be nice. BeatHard is a Unrestricted FA, and Mullens is a restricted FA. If Kyle can develop Rosen the way he developed Mullens, we might have something there!

He puts more velocity on his INTs

Well Kyle picked him off the Tampa Bay dumpster and they're in the super bowl, so hopefully he can turn those INT's into TD's.

Originally posted by Ark49er:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by LVJay:

I hope this dude can learn the system quick and (at the least) be a real good back up... I'm not thrilled with Mullens or Beathard

Agree, I haven't seen those plays that make QB's starters. Unfortnately. For now they are good backups and system QB's for Kyle's offense. Josh hopefully might show some spark that can challenge Jimmy and push Jimmy to be better during training cap and pre-season play. Right now neither one can really threaten Jimmy in this offense.

good backups

Good backups = camp fodder. Rosen has been awful as a starter, but should easily beat Mullens and Beathard in camp based on talent alone. If he can't his career is over.

Or Shanahan simply loves Mullens and Beathard over him. That cannot be dismissed seeing as how our HC develops crushes on certain players. The other guy can be better but if Shanahan loves you, it's a lifetime commitment.

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

If we bring back CJ or Nick over Rosen as a backup I will be frustrated. Rosen has better talent than the two of them combined.
In his 1st 2 seasons, each year he was on the worst O-Line in football with a rookie HC.
I want to see what Kyle can do with him.

Agree in principle about Rosen. I haven't seen him play much. I haven't even seen his highlights from the other teams. But I think he does have more physical talent than either BeatHard and definitely Mullens.

I don' t know if we can get any compensatory draft picks for the potential loss of BeatHard or Mullens, but it would be nice. BeatHard is a Unrestricted FA, and Mullens is a restricted FA. If Kyle can develop Rosen the way he developed Mullens, we might have something there!

He puts more velocity on his INTs

Well Kyle picked him off the Tampa Bay dumpster and they're in the super bowl, so hopefully he can turn those INT's into TD's.

Possibly, Kyle does seem to scheme open the middle of the field very well which is where (from the games I have seen of Rosen) he throws INTs off the hands of receivers. Seems like his picks are of the off the WR to the deep LB or S roaming the middle. Just not sure his game is a good fit.

Picked him off the Tampa Bay dumpster

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by TheXFactor:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by LVJay:

I hope this dude can learn the system quick and (at the least) be a real good back up... I'm not thrilled with Mullens or Beathard

Agree, I haven't seen those plays that make QB's starters. Unfortnately. For now they are good backups and system QB's for Kyle's offense. Josh hopefully might show some spark that can challenge Jimmy and push Jimmy to be better during training cap and pre-season play. Right now neither one can really threaten Jimmy in this offense.

good backups

Good backups = camp fodder. Rosen has been awful as a starter, but should easily beat Mullens and Beathard in camp based on talent alone. If he can't his career is over.