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Solomon Thomas 3rd Overall Pick 2017 NFL Draft

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It's obvious that Bosa is already 10x the pass rusher Thomas is. Bosa was once again around the QB many times this week.

When you watch Thomas rush the passer, he just get's totally locked up and neutralized. Not strong enough to pull rush a 320 tackle, not skilled enough to get bye him either. Arik Armstead, a guy drafted to be a 3-4 DE, is a better pass rusher than Thomas.

He's a quality backup....an above average pass rusher from the DT position....but yeah, wasted pick.

Can he play offensive tackle?
[ Edited by IrishCrnjo on Sep 15, 2019 at 8:53 PM ]
Originally posted by okdkid:
He has a $9M cap hit next year. They have AA, Blair and Day up on contracts. There is no chance they keep Thomas over one (or two) of those guys. I think he's done with the Niners this offseason.

It's also guaranteed. Unless they trade him he will be a 9er one more season
stick a fork in him, Solly is most likely cut next year and moving on to the Seacawks or Tards
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Definitely has a good motor and hustle, but not a good pass rusher.

Agree. I haven't seen that explosiveness that you need as a great pass rusher. I hope he can still develop. But I think Kocureck (if given the chance to re-draft the 2017 1st pick again in hindsight) probably would prefer somebody else. Thank god Zgonina is gone.
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by okdkid:
He has a $9M cap hit next year. They have AA, Blair and Day up on contracts. There is no chance they keep Thomas over one (or two) of those guys. I think he's done with the Niners this offseason.

It's also guaranteed. Unless they trade him he will be a 9er one more season

It's the only year left on his deal. They won't pick up the 5th year. I still think they can dump him for a 2021 7th to a team who wants to take a look for a year.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Had a good hustle sack. No doubt about it fellas. He's an DR. Cancel your hopes of him getting inside snaps. They appear to like 4/5 other guys on the interior

Cause 4 to 5 other guys are better inside.

Absolutely no evidence of this. Armstead's sack today came from the edge. D.J. Jones is a run down specialist. Nose guard type. I'm not sure Jullian Taylor even has a pressure in his career yet. I don't think Sheldon Day has gotten a pressure yet this year either.

Yeah and Solly can't beat out those guys pretty sad I know. And there more to playing inside than rushing the passer

There is no "beating out." You can't "beat someone out" in the NFL if you don't get playing time. You need a starter to go down with injury to move ahead of someone on the depth chart.

Also, Thomas is the best interior run defender on the team. The coaches just rarely use him there on run downs (because they're idiots), but that's his forte. He was an interior run stuffer in high school and college. He started as a nose guard at Stanford.
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
There is no "beating out." You can't "beat someone out" in the NFL if you don't get playing time. You need a starter to go down with injury to move ahead of someone on the depth chart.

Also, Thomas is the best interior run defender on the team. The coaches just rarely use him there on run downs (because they're idiots), but that's his forte. He was an interior run stuffer in high school and college. He started as a nose guard at Stanford.

Sure.
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Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
There is no "beating out." You can't "beat someone out" in the NFL if you don't get playing time. You need a starter to go down with injury to move ahead of someone on the depth chart.

Also, Thomas is the best interior run defender on the team. The coaches just rarely use him there on run downs (because they're idiots), but that's his forte. He was an interior run stuffer in high school and college. He started as a nose guard at Stanford.

He doesn't get playing time for the same reason none of us do.
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Had a good hustle sack. No doubt about it fellas. He's an DR. Cancel your hopes of him getting inside snaps. They appear to like 4/5 other guys on the interior

Cause 4 to 5 other guys are better inside.

Absolutely no evidence of this. Armstead's sack today came from the edge. D.J. Jones is a run down specialist. Nose guard type. I'm not sure Jullian Taylor even has a pressure in his career yet. I don't think Sheldon Day has gotten a pressure yet this year either.

Yeah and Solly can't beat out those guys pretty sad I know. And there more to playing inside than rushing the passer

There is no "beating out." You can't "beat someone out" in the NFL if you don't get playing time. You need a starter to go down with injury to move ahead of someone on the depth chart.

Also, Thomas is the best interior run defender on the team. The coaches just rarely use him there on run downs (because they're idiots), but that's his forte. He was an interior run stuffer in high school and college. He started as a nose guard at Stanford.

The bolded is just flat out false.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
The bolded is just flat out false.

That's why I just gave him a "sure" response.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
The bolded is just flat out false.

That's why I just gave him a "sure" response.

Wait, coaches dont just arbitrarily make a starting lineup and/or depth chart? They actually pick the best players on their team and go from there?

Mind is blown.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Definitely has a good motor and hustle, but not a good pass rusher.

Agree. I haven't seen that explosiveness that you need as a great pass rusher. I hope he can still develop. But I think Kocureck (if given the chance to re-draft the 2017 1st pick again in hindsight) probably would prefer somebody else. Thank god Zgonina is gone.

This x 10000000000
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
The bolded is just flat out false.

That's why I just gave him a "sure" response.

Wait, coaches dont just arbitrarily make a starting lineup and/or depth chart? They actually pick the best players on their team and go from there?

Mind is blown.

Yup the idiot coaches hate the number 3 overall pick and want to bury him in the depth chart and put him out of position. During the draft process Sollys concern was he didn't have position in the pros and still kinda doesn't.
He won't live up the hype, nor will he play a lot of minutes unless there is injury. We have a nice rotation of d linemen. But he can be an effective part of the rotation when he plays inside. He needs to pull his weight, clog up holes, and have a relentless motor.
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Originally posted by sacniner:
He won't live up the hype, nor will he play a lot of minutes unless there is injury. We have a nice rotation of d linemen. But he can be an effective part of the rotation when he plays inside. He needs to pull his weight, clog up holes, and have a relentless motor.

Last year for that. $9M cap hit next year. Severe overpay for that production.
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