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Solomon Thomas 3rd Overall Pick 2017 NFL Draft

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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
In limited action, he hasn't been bad, few good plays scattered throughout. Bottom line, we had an idea of what we thought he could be, it hasn't worked out that way. Unless something dramatically changes, his player profile has become pretty clear.

He's a tweener who excels at run stuffing but lacks the bend, power, and hands to win outside against tackles against the pass. He doesn't seem to have an arsenal of moves and especially seems to lack an inside move from the edge, which is pretty critical to success outside.

He doesnt have that second move in transition to be able to get free of the tackle. He needs to play inside where he can just bull rush and then use that motor to track down the QB once he gets flushed from the pocket. But then again he doesnt have the size to anchor against the run inside so its pick your poison with him. Better pass rush at the sacrifice of run defense with him inside or better edge run defense with no pass rush on the outside.
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Originally posted by jreff22:
Move him for something

He has a $9M cap hit next year. They have AA, Blair and Day up on contracts. There is no chance they keep Thomas over one (or two) of those guys. I think he's done with the Niners this offseason.
Sucks the #2 overall (traded to 3) doesn't seem appropriate but if he's our back up we're pretty set on defensive line. Obviously cut bait or trade when we're pressed for cap but he's solid depth until then.
[ Edited by Youngone on Sep 15, 2019 at 1:21 PM ]
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Originally posted by GEEK:
The late hit on the QB was a bonehead play and his offsides last week was just stupid.

I've been a defender of ST, but it really seems like he needs a fresh start.

I'd package him with draft picks for the Dolphins Fitzpatrick to boost our talent in the secondary.

And we will have STs replacement with Street when he's able to come off of IR in mid season.

It didn't look all that bad. He was battling with the OT and his momentum carried him into Dalton. Dalton acted to make the contact look more than it was.
Originally posted by Youngone:
Sucks the #2 overall (traded to 3) doesn't seem appropriate but if he's our back up we're pretty set on defensive line. Obviously cut bait or trade when we're pressed for cap but he's solid depth until then.

Not many teams can whiff on a top 3 pick and still have a popping d line. Helps when you have 4 other 1sts though.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Sep 15, 2019 at 1:29 PM ]
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Sucks the #2 overall (traded to 3) doesn't seem appropriate but if he's our back up we're pretty set on defensive line. Obviously cut bait or trade when we're pressed for cap but he's solid depth until then.

Not many teams can whiff on a top 3 pick and still have a popping d line. Helps when you have 4 other 1sts though.

But many teams that tank for four years can.
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
But then again he doesnt have the size to anchor against the run inside so its pick your poison with him. Better pass rush at the sacrifice of run defense with him inside or better edge run defense with no pass rush on the outside.

Once again, total nonsense. You don't anchor with size, you anchor with strength and leverage. Thomas is better at this than anyone else on the team. When teams run combination blocks on Buckner or Julian Taylor, it's 8 up the middle. When they do it at Thomas, he keeps a linebacker clean and Kwon Alexander knocks the stuffing out of the ball carrier.

Thomas's problem is he's a lousy pass rusher. He doesn't understand how to play half a man.
He has 14 more games to prove himself or hopefully we can get something in a trade.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Move him for something

He has a $9M cap hit next year. They have AA, Blair and Day up on contracts. There is no chance they keep Thomas over one (or two) of those guys. I think he's done with the Niners this offseason.

unless he takes a pay cut
Originally posted by zonkers:
But many teams that tank for four years can.

Typically those teams like to mix it up and bust on other areas.

Had a good hustle sack. No doubt about it fellas. He's an DR. Cancel your hopes of him getting inside snaps. They appear to like 4/5 other guys on the interior
Originally posted by lamontb:
Had a good hustle sack. No doubt about it fellas. He's an DR. Cancel your hopes of him getting inside snaps. They appear to like 4/5 other guys on the interior

Cause 4 to 5 other guys are better inside.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Had a good hustle sack. No doubt about it fellas. He's an DR. Cancel your hopes of him getting inside snaps. They appear to like 4/5 other guys on the interior

Cause 4 to 5 other guys are better inside.

Absolutely no evidence of this. Armstead's sack today came from the edge. D.J. Jones is a run down specialist. Nose guard type. I'm not sure Jullian Taylor even has a pressure in his career yet. I don't think Sheldon Day has gotten a pressure yet this year either.
Definitely has a good motor and hustle, but not a good pass rusher.
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Had a good hustle sack. No doubt about it fellas. He's an DR. Cancel your hopes of him getting inside snaps. They appear to like 4/5 other guys on the interior

Cause 4 to 5 other guys are better inside.

Absolutely no evidence of this. Armstead's sack today came from the edge. D.J. Jones is a run down specialist. Nose guard type. I'm not sure Jullian Taylor even has a pressure in his career yet. I don't think Sheldon Day has gotten a pressure yet this year either.

Yeah and Solly can't beat out those guys pretty sad I know. And there more to playing inside than rushing the passer
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