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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Had a good hustle sack. No doubt about it fellas. He's an DR. Cancel your hopes of him getting inside snaps. They appear to like 4/5 other guys on the interior

Cause 4 to 5 other guys are better inside.

Absolutely no evidence of this. Armstead's sack today came from the edge. D.J. Jones is a run down specialist. Nose guard type. I'm not sure Jullian Taylor even has a pressure in his career yet. I don't think Sheldon Day has gotten a pressure yet this year either.

Yeah and Solly can't beat out those guys pretty sad I know. And there more to playing inside than rushing the passer

There is no "beating out." You can't "beat someone out" in the NFL if you don't get playing time. You need a starter to go down with injury to move ahead of someone on the depth chart.

Also, Thomas is the best interior run defender on the team. The coaches just rarely use him there on run downs (because they're idiots), but that's his forte. He was an interior run stuffer in high school and college. He started as a nose guard at Stanford.
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
There is no "beating out." You can't "beat someone out" in the NFL if you don't get playing time. You need a starter to go down with injury to move ahead of someone on the depth chart.

Also, Thomas is the best interior run defender on the team. The coaches just rarely use him there on run downs (because they're idiots), but that's his forte. He was an interior run stuffer in high school and college. He started as a nose guard at Stanford.

Sure.
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Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
There is no "beating out." You can't "beat someone out" in the NFL if you don't get playing time. You need a starter to go down with injury to move ahead of someone on the depth chart.

Also, Thomas is the best interior run defender on the team. The coaches just rarely use him there on run downs (because they're idiots), but that's his forte. He was an interior run stuffer in high school and college. He started as a nose guard at Stanford.

He doesn't get playing time for the same reason none of us do.
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Had a good hustle sack. No doubt about it fellas. He's an DR. Cancel your hopes of him getting inside snaps. They appear to like 4/5 other guys on the interior

Cause 4 to 5 other guys are better inside.

Absolutely no evidence of this. Armstead's sack today came from the edge. D.J. Jones is a run down specialist. Nose guard type. I'm not sure Jullian Taylor even has a pressure in his career yet. I don't think Sheldon Day has gotten a pressure yet this year either.

Yeah and Solly can't beat out those guys pretty sad I know. And there more to playing inside than rushing the passer

There is no "beating out." You can't "beat someone out" in the NFL if you don't get playing time. You need a starter to go down with injury to move ahead of someone on the depth chart.

Also, Thomas is the best interior run defender on the team. The coaches just rarely use him there on run downs (because they're idiots), but that's his forte. He was an interior run stuffer in high school and college. He started as a nose guard at Stanford.

The bolded is just flat out false.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
The bolded is just flat out false.

That's why I just gave him a "sure" response.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
The bolded is just flat out false.

That's why I just gave him a "sure" response.

Wait, coaches dont just arbitrarily make a starting lineup and/or depth chart? They actually pick the best players on their team and go from there?

Mind is blown.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Definitely has a good motor and hustle, but not a good pass rusher.

Agree. I haven't seen that explosiveness that you need as a great pass rusher. I hope he can still develop. But I think Kocureck (if given the chance to re-draft the 2017 1st pick again in hindsight) probably would prefer somebody else. Thank god Zgonina is gone.

This x 10000000000
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
The bolded is just flat out false.

That's why I just gave him a "sure" response.

Wait, coaches dont just arbitrarily make a starting lineup and/or depth chart? They actually pick the best players on their team and go from there?

Mind is blown.

Yup the idiot coaches hate the number 3 overall pick and want to bury him in the depth chart and put him out of position. During the draft process Sollys concern was he didn't have position in the pros and still kinda doesn't.
He won't live up the hype, nor will he play a lot of minutes unless there is injury. We have a nice rotation of d linemen. But he can be an effective part of the rotation when he plays inside. He needs to pull his weight, clog up holes, and have a relentless motor.
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Originally posted by sacniner:
He won't live up the hype, nor will he play a lot of minutes unless there is injury. We have a nice rotation of d linemen. But he can be an effective part of the rotation when he plays inside. He needs to pull his weight, clog up holes, and have a relentless motor.

Last year for that. $9M cap hit next year. Severe overpay for that production.

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by TradeThomasToNE:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by lamontb:
Had a good hustle sack. No doubt about it fellas. He's an DR. Cancel your hopes of him getting inside snaps. They appear to like 4/5 other guys on the interior

Cause 4 to 5 other guys are better inside.

Absolutely no evidence of this. Armstead's sack today came from the edge. D.J. Jones is a run down specialist. Nose guard type. I'm not sure Jullian Taylor even has a pressure in his career yet. I don't think Sheldon Day has gotten a pressure yet this year either.

Yeah and Solly can't beat out those guys pretty sad I know. And there more to playing inside than rushing the passer

There is no "beating out." You can't "beat someone out" in the NFL if you don't get playing time. You need a starter to go down with injury to move ahead of someone on the depth chart.

Also, Thomas is the best interior run defender on the team. The coaches just rarely use him there on run downs (because they're idiots), but that's his forte. He was an interior run stuffer in high school and college. He started as a nose guard at Stanford.

The bolded is just flat out false.

Oh, so Tony Banks beat out Kurt Warner in 1998? The Rams left Kurt Warner unprotected in the 1999 expansion draft to the Browns because he was just not able to beat out the great Tony Banks? They signed Trent Green and he needed to get injured...must have been how terrible Warner was.

And then there's Kevan Barlow. Clearly, he BEAT OUT Frank Gore in 2005. Otherwise, Gore would not have needed Barlow to go down with an injury in order to become the starting running back.

And those were back when teams ran actual scrimmages. They don't even run scrimmages now. Everything they do in practice now is literally the same drills they do at the combine. You know, the combine: The thing the 49ers' coaches, scouts, and executives watched Thomas perform in and took him number 3 overall after watching him perform said drills.

He does the same drills the same way he did at the combine, yet they immediately placed him behind incumbent starter Arik Armstead in his rookie season, and he only became a starter after Armstead went down with injury. After he missed almost all of training camp because of the graduation rule.
ST played well, look we missed on the #3 pick. It happens. ST is giving us valuable snaps. He shouldn't have been that luck but he was. He's part of a very good D line rotation. It's just simple as that
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Yup the idiot coaches hate the number 3 overall pick and want to bury him in the depth chart and put him out of position. During the draft process Sollys concern was he didn't have position in the pros and still kinda doesn't.

Didn't have a position? How do you play football without a position? What did he do in college? Why was he drafted #3 overall after declaring after his sophomore year of college when he apparently didn't even play football?

Sheer lunacy. The arguments in this thread are absurd.
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Not worth your time my man.
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