1st Team All Pro - OW, Kyle "Juice" Juszczyk

Originally posted by Dshearn:
maybe he means how?

It is just as boggling a sentence, since clearly Shanny knows how to use a FB, but at least with how you have a complete thought.... versus why and being left to think he had a stroke mid thought and just typed out a random word.

He does use him often. Its up to the QB to distribute players the ball.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
maybe he means how?

It is just as boggling a sentence, since clearly Shanny knows how to use a FB, but at least with how you have a complete thought.... versus why and being left to think he had a stroke mid thought and just typed out a random word.

He does use him often. Its up to the QB to distribute players the ball.

If Shanny knows how to use the best FB in the NFL, how is it that he's not had a season under Kyle where he had over 65 catches for the season ?

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
maybe he means how?

It is just as boggling a sentence, since clearly Shanny knows how to use a FB, but at least with how you have a complete thought.... versus why and being left to think he had a stroke mid thought and just typed out a random word.

He does use him often. Its up to the QB to distribute players the ball.

If Shanny knows how to use the best FB in the NFL, how is it that he's not had a season under Kyle where he had over 65 catches for the season ?

Kyle's teams historically aren't throwing the ball much. I kept wanting him to put up Tom Rathman like numbers, but I just don't see that happening- not with us being in the 20s when it comes to how little we pass the ball.

Shanahan has been an OC in the NFL for 15 years. I am going to compare 15 years of his passing attempts (rankings) to Bill Walsh's and George Seifert's (18 years).

Kyle Shanahan
Year. Passing Rank
2022 26th
2021 29th
2020 16th
2019 29th
2018 20th
2017 2nd
2016 26th
2015 8th
2014 26th
2013 9th
2012 30th
2011 5th
2010 4th
2009 4th
2008 7th

It seems more or less, the more successful the team is, the LESS he passes, by a huge margin. So yeah, Juice ain't ever going to catch 60 passes. We'll be lucky to get 25 IMO.

Seifert

Year. Passing Rank

1996 11th
1995 2nd
1994 18th
1993 13th
1992 14th
1991 3rd
1990 2nd
1989 20th

Walsh

Year. Passing Rank
1988 15th
1987 10th
1986 4th
1985 8th
1984 15th
1983 9th
1982 1st
1981. 9th
1980. 1st
1979. 1st

Coincidentally, three of the six lowest passing attempt rankings were when Mike Shanahan was calling the plays.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
maybe he means how?

It is just as boggling a sentence, since clearly Shanny knows how to use a FB, but at least with how you have a complete thought.... versus why and being left to think he had a stroke mid thought and just typed out a random word.

He does use him often. Its up to the QB to distribute players the ball.

If Shanny knows how to use the best FB in the NFL, how is it that he's not had a season under Kyle where he had over 65 catches for the season ?

Kyle's teams historically aren't throwing the ball much. I kept wanting him to put up Tom Rathman like numbers, but I just don't see that happening- not with us being in the 20s when it comes to how little we pass the ball.

Shanahan has been an OC in the NFL for 15 years. I am going to compare 15 years of his passing attempts (rankings) to Bill Walsh's and George Seifert's (18 years).

Kyle Shanahan
Year. Passing Rank
2022 26th
2021 29th
2020 16th
2019 29th
2018 20th
2017 2nd
2016 26th
2015 8th
2014 26th
2013 9th
2012 30th
2011 5th
2010 4th
2009 4th
2008 7th

It seems more or less, the more successful the team is, the LESS he passes, by a huge margin. So yeah, Juice ain't ever going to catch 60 passes. We'll be lucky to get 25 IMO.

Seifert

Year. Passing Rank

1996 11th
1995 2nd
1994 18th
1993 13th
1992 14th
1991 3rd
1990 2nd
1989 20th

Walsh

Year. Passing Rank
1988 15th
1987 10th
1986 4th
1985 8th
1984 15th
1983 9th
1982 1st
1981. 9th
1980. 1st
1979. 1st

Coincidentally, three of the six lowest passing attempt rankings were when Mike Shanahan was calling the plays.

This kind of awesome breakdown deserves it's own thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
maybe he means how?

It is just as boggling a sentence, since clearly Shanny knows how to use a FB, but at least with how you have a complete thought.... versus why and being left to think he had a stroke mid thought and just typed out a random word.

He does use him often. Its up to the QB to distribute players the ball.

If Shanny knows how to use the best FB in the NFL, how is it that he's not had a season under Kyle where he had over 65 catches for the season ?

Kyle's teams historically aren't throwing the ball much. I kept wanting him to put up Tom Rathman like numbers, but I just don't see that happening- not with us being in the 20s when it comes to how little we pass the ball.

Shanahan has been an OC in the NFL for 15 years. I am going to compare 15 years of his passing attempts (rankings) to Bill Walsh's and George Seifert's (18 years).

Kyle Shanahan
Year. Passing Rank
2022 26th
2021 29th
2020 16th
2019 29th
2018 20th
2017 2nd
2016 26th
2015 8th
2014 26th
2013 9th
2012 30th
2011 5th
2010 4th
2009 4th
2008 7th

It seems more or less, the more successful the team is, the LESS he passes, by a huge margin. So yeah, Juice ain't ever going to catch 60 passes. We'll be lucky to get 25 IMO.

Seifert

Year. Passing Rank

1996 11th
1995 2nd
1994 18th
1993 13th
1992 14th
1991 3rd
1990 2nd
1989 20th

Walsh

Year. Passing Rank
1988 15th
1987 10th
1986 4th
1985 8th
1984 15th
1983 9th
1982 1st
1981. 9th
1980. 1st
1979. 1st

Coincidentally, three of the six lowest passing attempt rankings were when Mike Shanahan was calling the plays.

This kind of awesome breakdown deserves it's own thread

GREAT JOB REALLY... W/ALL HONESTY..

it basically means that he is NOT being used to his max..

Can you break down the year Rathman had over 70 catches along side JR - JT - BJ - RC.. and how that is possible ??

He's not being used to the max.

IMO, almost impossible to use everyone to the max.

I'm hoping KS is saving him for some special plays in big, close games.

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
He's not being used to the max.

IMO, almost impossible to use everyone to the max.

I'm hoping KS is saving him for some special plays in big, close games.

This, but he is incredibly important in making this offense work.

Was disappointed not seeing Juice a little more involved in yesterday's game outside of his blocking responsibilities. He's too good of a football player to not run the occasional play for him. Plays like the quick hitter up the middle, the wheel route we've seen him be successful, or just occasional other passes to him as he's got good hands (will never forget the good TD grab & run in the SB). He's another good football player the opposing D should at least somewhat have to account for.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Dshearn:
maybe he means how?

It is just as boggling a sentence, since clearly Shanny knows how to use a FB, but at least with how you have a complete thought.... versus why and being left to think he had a stroke mid thought and just typed out a random word.

He does use him often. Its up to the QB to distribute players the ball.

If Shanny knows how to use the best FB in the NFL, how is it that he's not had a season under Kyle where he had over 65 catches for the season ?

Kyle's teams historically aren't throwing the ball much. I kept wanting him to put up Tom Rathman like numbers, but I just don't see that happening- not with us being in the 20s when it comes to how little we pass the ball.

Shanahan has been an OC in the NFL for 15 years. I am going to compare 15 years of his passing attempts (rankings) to Bill Walsh's and George Seifert's (18 years).

Kyle Shanahan
Year. Passing Rank
2022 26th
2021 29th
2020 16th
2019 29th
2018 20th
2017 2nd
2016 26th
2015 8th
2014 26th
2013 9th
2012 30th
2011 5th
2010 4th
2009 4th
2008 7th

It seems more or less, the more successful the team is, the LESS he passes, by a huge margin. So yeah, Juice ain't ever going to catch 60 passes. We'll be lucky to get 25 IMO.

Seifert

Year. Passing Rank

1996 11th
1995 2nd
1994 18th
1993 13th
1992 14th
1991 3rd
1990 2nd
1989 20th

Walsh

Year. Passing Rank
1988 15th
1987 10th
1986 4th
1985 8th
1984 15th
1983 9th
1982 1st
1981. 9th
1980. 1st
1979. 1st

Coincidentally, three of the six lowest passing attempt rankings were when Mike Shanahan was calling the plays.

This kind of awesome breakdown deserves it's own thread

HATS OFF.. HATS OFF...

WALSH

9th (1981) = Super Bowl
5th (1985) = Super Bowl
15th (1988) = Super Bowl

SEIFERT

20th (1989) = Super Bowl
18th (1994) = Super Bowl

KYLE

5th (2011) = ???
9th (2013) = ???
16th (2020) = ???
20th (2018) = ???

can we compare?

just thinking of silly stuff and excuse my ignorance but how would a taysom hill do in juices roll? I'm assuming juice is a much better blocker?

What does he do again?

The guy was just born in the wrong era. Had he been born for Walsh and Holmgren he'd already be in the HOF.

Originally posted by NCommand:
The guy was just born in the wrong era. Had he been wrong for Walsh and Holmgren he'd already be in the HOF.

FORGET THE ERA... the fact that we made him the highest paid FB in the NFL should be enough that we think so HIGHLY of this guy.... but dang, he's getting old, making lots of money and not being used to the max...

we may as well turn Ian Manning into a FB if we wanted just a blocker..

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
He's signed through 2026. He is not going anywhere.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/kyle-juszczyk-12411/

Can we use him more? Kyle doesn't don't know why.

Why what?

maybe he means how?

It is just as boggling a sentence, since clearly Shanny knows how to use a FB, but at least with how you have a complete thought.... versus why and being left to think he had a stroke mid thought and just typed out a random word.

Can we use him more? Kyle doesn't; I don't know why.

At least that's what I think he was trying to type lol.