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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Niners_D:
I can't disagree. I will say however, that there is no coach in the league that I would rather have for this team from an X's and O's standpoint. Hopefully he learns from this and it has a positive impact in his late-game tactics in the future.

ok. but years with atlanta as a oc . super bowl experience where he was rightfully questioned with his decisions and now three years head coach here,, you would think he would have a better handle on what to do at crunch time. face it, he outcoached himself for whatever reason.. oh i know whats coming... not to compare him with bill walsh but even bill made some boo boos

You're not wrong and I felt he messed up a bit as well. I would have went for it on 4th and 1 instead of the field goal but I get it. The passing 3 in a row was dumb. It's obvious we need to upgrade WR next year. I'm hoping Hurd can play and contribute.

I'm kinda glad this happened. We play some seriously good teams the next few weeks. I see this as a test of our mettle and Kyle is still learning. He admits it and he should grow from this. We should definitely make the playoffs so it's the division and first round bye in question. We will not be an easy win for any team anymore.

kyle will never admit it. but there is a reason he got sanders. then when sanders went out. kyle was like.. holy f**k . now what. we are back to where we were but worse cuz now i do not have kittle or sanders but i got these clowns, deebo not included.. well maybe not word for word. we got by without sanders for a bunch of games but now people are going to stack the house against the run. esp if kittle and sanders are out . you are right.. it gets really tough from here. including sunday in my opinion.. yes..dang. i thought jimmy could have ran that left side for a easy first down on third down. then when it was fourth and short.. come on, kyle take a chance. those two quick passes killed us

Yes, division games are always tough. Cardinals are no push over imo. I called it two weeks ago.

Kyle can't admit a player sucks publicly as he's not a jerk either lol but yeah I do sense that. He's a great schemer overall, but you need talent. Also he is still learning when to push and when to let off the gas a bit as well.

Good observation about JG. Jimmy is a pure pocket guy imo. He avoids running. I guess were not really used to that, but it works for Brady lol tackles were rusty too so Whatever. It's hard to attack JG for the game imo with what, 7 drops? I always felt a ball off the hands or chest of a WR should be his fumble and not a an pick lol


We need to get and stay healthy. If we get Hurd this year And the offense is fully healthy, our running game and red zone offense will be wicked.

Regardless, this offseason is about securing our good players to long term deals, drafting well for depth and growth- Especially WR.

Yes, you are correct, JImmy is primarily a pocket passer. He tore his ACL last yr, game 3, as you recall. If he were anything but a pocket passer that would be foolish and neither he nor kyle are foolish. Doesn't mean he can;t move around in the pocket a bit, but if he runs it is because he had 15-20 yards of only grass in front of him and he is gonna slide.
Originally posted by Black24Razor:
Originally posted by Aqua_Marine:
Do I need to start to worry about Kyle's choking? Specially in big games. But then again if the Falcons won the Super Bowl, Kyle wouldn't be here. Or is it Dan Quinn's fault? Or maybe it's just a misconception about Kyle that he's a choker? Honestly one Super Bowl loss doesn't define Kyle's coaching ability. And at this point we shouldn't label Kyle on anything. We're front runners to win the NFC,

Kyle had the job before the Super Bowl so he was coming here regardless of if they won or not. I questioned his play calling at the end of the game and then I remembered that the last time I called a football play was in high school in 1987 so I guess I'll defer to him on the game plan. LOL


Worry about kyle's Choking? Seriously? Kyle was in a quandary. Kittle wasn't on the field. Sanders LEFT the field near halftime. Kyle's quandary was how in the heck he was going to get a pass completed when every single WR had the dropsies. Officially they said 6 . Then Lynch said 7 . Announcers said 9 adn that is what i counted also. Kyle didn't choke. Kyle was trying to figure out if he needed to put on a uniform and shame these WRs into catching the damn ball. Not that jimmy was on target either but some of those drops were just horrendous.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Niners_D:
I can't disagree. I will say however, that there is no coach in the league that I would rather have for this team from an X's and O's standpoint. Hopefully he learns from this and it has a positive impact in his late-game tactics in the future.

ok. but years with atlanta as a oc . super bowl experience where he was rightfully questioned with his decisions and now three years head coach here,, you would think he would have a better handle on what to do at crunch time. face it, he outcoached himself for whatever reason.. oh i know whats coming... not to compare him with bill walsh but even bill made some boo boos

You're not wrong and I felt he messed up a bit as well. I would have went for it on 4th and 1 instead of the field goal but I get it. The passing 3 in a row was dumb. It's obvious we need to upgrade WR next year. I'm hoping Hurd can play and contribute.

I'm kinda glad this happened. We play some seriously good teams the next few weeks. I see this as a test of our mettle and Kyle is still learning. He admits it and he should grow from this. We should definitely make the playoffs so it's the division and first round bye in question. We will not be an easy win for any team anymore.

kyle will never admit it. but there is a reason he got sanders. then when sanders went out. kyle was like.. holy f**k . now what. we are back to where we were but worse cuz now i do not have kittle or sanders but i got these clowns, deebo not included.. well maybe not word for word. we got by without sanders for a bunch of games but now people are going to stack the house against the run. esp if kittle and sanders are out . you are right.. it gets really tough from here. including sunday in my opinion.. yes..dang. i thought jimmy could have ran that left side for a easy first down on third down. then when it was fourth and short.. come on, kyle take a chance. those two quick passes killed us

Yes, division games are always tough. Cardinals are no push over imo. I called it two weeks ago.

Kyle can't admit a player sucks publicly as he's not a jerk either lol but yeah I do sense that. He's a great schemer overall, but you need talent. Also he is still learning when to push and when to let off the gas a bit as well.

Good observation about JG. Jimmy is a pure pocket guy imo. He avoids running. I guess were not really used to that, but it works for Brady lol tackles were rusty too so Whatever. It's hard to attack JG for the game imo with what, 7 drops? I always felt a ball off the hands or chest of a WR should be his fumble and not a an pick lol


We need to get and stay healthy. If we get Hurd this year And the offense is fully healthy, our running game and red zone offense will be wicked.

Regardless, this offseason is about securing our good players to long term deals, drafting well for depth and growth- Especially WR.

Yes, you are correct, JImmy is primarily a pocket passer. He tore his ACL last yr, game 3, as you recall. If he were anything but a pocket passer that would be foolish and neither he nor kyle are foolish. Doesn't mean he can;t move around in the pocket a bit, but if he runs it is because he had 15-20 yards of only grass in front of him and he is gonna slide.

100%. As I watch him this year he's all about the pocket vs any run really. Not a dig or anything, but I'm used to mobile guys. Oddly enough Wilson is the opposite. He's deadly when he scrambles.
Let's face it, he made a dumb decision. What bothers me is that he won't own up to it. He did the same thing after the Super Bowl. THAT bothers me more than him making the bad decision. It just means he will do it again.

Passes 3 times and leaves too much time on the clock. Kyle says he's aggressive and is not playing for a tie.

But then he doesn't go for it on 4th and inches.

Dude, just own up.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Let's face it, he made a dumb decision. What bothers me is that he won't own up to it. He did the same thing after the Super Bowl. THAT bothers me more than him making the bad decision. It just means he will do it again.

Passes 3 times and leaves too much time on the clock. Kyle says he's aggressive and is not playing for a tie.

But then he doesn't go for it on 4th and inches.

Dude, just own up.

It was only a dumb decision because it didn't work out.

If any of those throws are completed it's a non issue. Players have to execute plays just like they did in Atlanta. Nobody was bashing Kyle for the playcall that got Atlanta into FG range but somehow because Ryan takes a critical sack or the next play where his OL gets a holding penalty it's Kyle's fault?

And your point about not going for it on 4th and inches would make more sense if they punted. They went for a game winning FG. That's literally GOING FOR THE WIN.
If Kyle would've gone for it, and the team turned the ball over on downs, how many of those who are criticizing him would have supported him? If he settled for a tie, how many?

Easy to throw stuff in our safe place of anonymity.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Let's face it, he made a dumb decision. What bothers me is that he won't own up to it. He did the same thing after the Super Bowl. THAT bothers me more than him making the bad decision. It just means he will do it again.

Passes 3 times and leaves too much time on the clock. Kyle says he's aggressive and is not playing for a tie.

But then he doesn't go for it on 4th and inches.

Dude, just own up.

What an incredibly stupid take
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Let's face it, he made a dumb decision. What bothers me is that he won't own up to it. He did the same thing after the Super Bowl. THAT bothers me more than him making the bad decision. It just means he will do it again.

Passes 3 times and leaves too much time on the clock. Kyle says he's aggressive and is not playing for a tie.

But then he doesn't go for it on 4th and inches.

Dude, just own up.

It was only a dumb decision because it didn't work out.

If any of those throws are completed it's a non issue. Players have to execute plays just like they did in Atlanta. Nobody was bashing Kyle for the playcall that got Atlanta into FG range but somehow because Ryan takes a critical sack or the next play where his OL gets a holding penalty it's Kyle's fault?

And your point about not going for it on 4th and inches would make more sense if they punted. They went for a game winning FG. That's literally GOING FOR THE WIN.

Preach it!!!! 10-4 man. Seriously catch the fkn ball. He dialed up some great call. Not his fault the players couldn't catch the damn ball
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Let's face it, he made a dumb decision. What bothers me is that he won't own up to it. He did the same thing after the Super Bowl. THAT bothers me more than him making the bad decision. It just means he will do it again.

Passes 3 times and leaves too much time on the clock. Kyle says he's aggressive and is not playing for a tie.

But then he doesn't go for it on 4th and inches.

Dude, just own up.

It was only a dumb decision because it didn't work out.

If any of those throws are completed it's a non issue. Players have to execute plays just like they did in Atlanta. Nobody was bashing Kyle for the playcall that got Atlanta into FG range but somehow because Ryan takes a critical sack or the next play where his OL gets a holding penalty it's Kyle's fault?

And your point about not going for it on 4th and inches would make more sense if they punted. They went for a game winning FG. That's literally GOING FOR THE WIN.

It also wasn't 4th and inches, it was 4th and 1 because of the poor spot.

If he goes for it and we fail then we would be hearing about how he should have kicked the FG and going for it was a mistake given how we were struggling in both the run game and pass game.
Shanahan has blind spots. He is great and doing amazing in most areas. Love him. Want him here for many years. But, he is mismanaging the WR position.

1. Pettis is not responding to the current methodology. That is Shanahan's fault. I have no doubt Pettis would be a Star with a Seattle type approach to player development.

2. The favoritism for Bourne over Goodwin and Bourne is incoherent and ruining the WR group dynamic.

Originally posted by bigwads:
Shanahan has blind spots. He is great and doing amazing in most areas. Love him. Want him here for many years. But, he is mismanaging the WR position.

1. Pettis is not responding to the current methodology. That is Shanahan's fault. I have no doubt Pettis would be a Star with a Seattle type approach to player development.

2. The favoritism for Bourne over Goodwin and Bourne is incoherent and ruining the WR group dynamic.

My guess is he favors Bourne over Goodwin because he gives us a little size and he is also practicing. Remember, Goodwin has missed a lot of time with personal issues and he clearly isn't the player he was 2 years ago. He has dropped more easy passes than any of our receivers. Bourne has his drops too but he's also made some key receptions. Unless Hurd gets healthy he's probably our best big receiver option.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Let's face it, he made a dumb decision. What bothers me is that he won't own up to it. He did the same thing after the Super Bowl. THAT bothers me more than him making the bad decision. It just means he will do it again.

Passes 3 times and leaves too much time on the clock. Kyle says he's aggressive and is not playing for a tie.

But then he doesn't go for it on 4th and inches.

Dude, just own up.
the 4th and inches thing killed me.... almost took me back to when mooch took a knee at half time with tampa bay
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Originally posted by genus49:
It was only a dumb decision because it didn't work out.

If any of those throws are completed it's a non issue. Players have to execute plays just like they did in Atlanta. Nobody was bashing Kyle for the playcall that got Atlanta into FG range but somehow because Ryan takes a critical sack or the next play where his OL gets a holding penalty it's Kyle's fault?

And your point about not going for it on 4th and inches would make more sense if they punted. They went for a game winning FG. That's literally GOING FOR THE WIN.

no matter what he did. you have a kid kicker,,, no matter what has happened during the game. you still have a good run team and jimmy could have fallen across the line to get a half a foot. taking a chance. fourth and inches. get the first down. maybe get another ten yards for your kicker is what should have been done in my opinion
Originally posted by cciowa:
It is just crazy that people act like you committed a murder if you dare question the coach . i think its ok to like him as your head coach but have the right to shake your head and wonder aloud why in the world did he go in that direction without having a bunch of .. but but.. lets fire him now. do you want chip and jt back. sheesh

Are you really questioning the coach when you root for failure? This was Susweel early Christmas.

If Jimmy puts that ball out a foot farther to Deebo no one is saying the coaching was an issue. If the kicker makes the damn FG, which he had just done in Regulation, no one says coaching is an issue.

Players failed Monday night.
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i am so sick of people whining about the spot and the refs f**ked us... you line up. smash mouth and send a message that we can pick up a first down. how come we are afraid of being the bully vs seattle like we were in the first 8 games of the year to other teams.,
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