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Originally posted by evil:Originally posted by Joecool:It still bothers me that Kyle does not want to roster a short-yardage back. That's why his red zone offenses suck.
Remember when Freeman and Coleman combined for 31 rushing touchdowns, 26 of which were in the RZ, during the 2 seasons Kyle was the OC in Atlanta?
Originally posted by Joecool:
You mean in 2016 when Coleman had 11 total and Freeman had 13? Or in 2015 when they had a combined total of 15? And these include all touchdowns, not red zone.
Originally posted by Joecool:
It still bothers me that Kyle does not want to roster a short-yardage back. That's why his red zone offenses suck.
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Joecool:
It still bothers me that Kyle does not want to roster a short-yardage back. That's why his red zone offenses suck.
Remember when Freeman and Coleman combined for 31 rushing touchdowns, 26 of which were in the RZ, during the 2 seasons Kyle was the OC in Atlanta?
Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by evil:Originally posted by Joecool:It still bothers me that Kyle does not want to roster a short-yardage back. That's why his red zone offenses suck.
Remember when Freeman and Coleman combined for 31 rushing touchdowns, 26 of which were in the RZ, during the 2 seasons Kyle was the OC in Atlanta?
You mean in 2016 when Coleman had 11 total and Freeman had 13? Or in 2015 when they had a combined total of 15? And these include all touchdowns, not red zone.
Originally posted by evil:
Coleman had 9 rushing TD's in 2015 & 2016. 7 of those 9 were scored in the red zone.
Freeman had 11 rushing TD's in 2015 and 11 again in 2016. In both 2015 and 2016 he had 9 rushing TD's inside the RZ, which totals 18 for the two seasons combined.
So 25 (not 26 my bad) total red zone rushing touchdowns when Kyle was OC out of 31 total rushing TD's by those two backs.
Your point just went out the window.
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Joecool:
It still bothers me that Kyle does not want to roster a short-yardage back. That's why his red zone offenses suck.
Remember when Freeman and Coleman combined for 31 rushing touchdowns, 26 of which were in the RZ, during the 2 seasons Kyle was the OC in Atlanta?
You mean in 2016 when Coleman had 11 total and Freeman had 13? Or in 2015 when they had a combined total of 15? And these include all touchdowns, not red zone.
Coleman had 9 rushing TD's in 2015 & 2016. 7 of those 9 were scored in the red zone.
Freeman had 11 rushing TD's in 2015 and 11 again in 2016. In both 2015 and 2016 he had 9 rushing TD's inside the RZ, which totals 18 for the two seasons combined.
So 25 (not 26 my bad) total red zone rushing touchdowns when Kyle was OC out of 31 total rushing TD's by those two backs.
Your point just went out the window.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:Originally posted by evil:Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by evil:Originally posted by Joecool:It still bothers me that Kyle does not want to roster a short-yardage back. That's why his red zone offenses suck.
Remember when Freeman and Coleman combined for 31 rushing touchdowns, 26 of which were in the RZ, during the 2 seasons Kyle was the OC in Atlanta?
You mean in 2016 when Coleman had 11 total and Freeman had 13? Or in 2015 when they had a combined total of 15? And these include all touchdowns, not red zone.
Coleman had 9 rushing TD's in 2015 & 2016. 7 of those 9 were scored in the red zone.
Freeman had 11 rushing TD's in 2015 and 11 again in 2016. In both 2015 and 2016 he had 9 rushing TD's inside the RZ, which totals 18 for the two seasons combined.
So 25 (not 26 my bad) total red zone rushing touchdowns when Kyle was OC out of 31 total rushing TD's by those two backs.
Your point just went out the window.
In the two years he's been here, the redzone offense has been poor.
Maybe he needs a Freeman type back. Coleman's 3.5 red zone TDs per year in those two years isn't impressive.
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by evil:Coleman had 9 rushing TD's in 2015 & 2016. 7 of those 9 were scored in the red zone.
Freeman had 11 rushing TD's in 2015 and 11 again in 2016. In both 2015 and 2016 he had 9 rushing TD's inside the RZ, which totals 18 for the two seasons combined.
So 25 (not 26 my bad) total red zone rushing touchdowns when Kyle was OC out of 31 total rushing TD's by those two backs.
Your point just went out the window.
Could throw in some receiving TDs from those two as well (and DiMarco the FB) I'm not sure if they were in the RZ or not but wouldn't be shocked.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:In the two years he's been here, the redzone offense has been poor.
Maybe he needs a Freeman type back. Coleman's 3.5 red zone TDs per year in those two years isn't impressive.
Originally posted by evil:You can get RZ scoring numbers by looking at advanced splits.
His point was the RZ offense sucks because he does not keep a short yardage back. Yet without a short yardage back in Atlanta, he had 25 of the 31 rushing TD's scored by Freeman and Coleman coming in the red zone. And that does not include their pass catching abilities. On rushing touchdowns alone, the RZ offense was more than fine Without the need for a short yardage back.
The point he made is completely off base and was proven wrong.
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by evil:You can get RZ scoring numbers by looking at advanced splits.
His point was the RZ offense sucks because he does not keep a short yardage back. Yet without a short yardage back in Atlanta, he had 25 of the 31 rushing TD's scored by Freeman and Coleman coming in the red zone. And that does not include their pass catching abilities. On rushing touchdowns alone, the RZ offense was more than fine Without the need for a short yardage back.
The point he made is completely off base and was proven wrong.
Ah I see...
I mean he did have a short yardage back in 2017 here with Hyde (230lbs) they were 27th ranked
He's showed he can score in the RZ (ATL was 8th overall in 2016) I think piss poor QB play does play a part, I do think if I had to throw a weakness in kyle game it is in the RZ though.
Originally posted by evil:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by evil:You can get RZ scoring numbers by looking at advanced splits.
His point was the RZ offense sucks because he does not keep a short yardage back. Yet without a short yardage back in Atlanta, he had 25 of the 31 rushing TD's scored by Freeman and Coleman coming in the red zone. And that does not include their pass catching abilities. On rushing touchdowns alone, the RZ offense was more than fine Without the need for a short yardage back.
The point he made is completely off base and was proven wrong.
Ah I see...
I mean he did have a short yardage back in 2017 here with Hyde (230lbs) they were 27th ranked
He's showed he can score in the RZ (ATL was 8th overall in 2016) I think piss poor QB play does play a part, I do think if I had to throw a weakness in kyle game it is in the RZ though.
I want to see this RZ O with a healthy JG, a healthy backfield and a healthy Richburg. All key cogs to make it go.
But to date it has been a weakness.
Originally posted by WestCoastForever:So Kyle is not so lousy in RZ offense, as some suggest.