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  • thl408
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Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Not to nit pick, but there really is no way that the plays with 2+ HB on the field can be lower that the 21 personnel percentage since 21 personnel means 2 running backs.
You're right. That doesn't make sense.

So 30 personnel or 31 personnel? Granted I dont really remember a play with KJ, Breida and Wilson/Mostert/AR but that would detract from the percentage. My guess is that the plays where KJ lined up at WR/TE with Breida and RB2 in the back field is what they are taking into consideration.

But the chart doesn't make sense mathematically because like 816 said, you can't have a higher % of '21' than you do of '2+ RBs' because '2+ RBs' includes '21' personnel. It's like saying, "I have 2 cars. Three are made by Ford."
Well if you have 3 Fords then you have to at least have three cars.

If the 49ers are putting '21' personnel on the field 42.3% of the time, then the % of plays where they have '2 or more RBs' cannot be lower than 42.3%. It has to be equal to or more than 42.3%. Maybe someone that can math better me can explain.

The stat about '11' personnel and '3 or more WRs' does make sense. They use '11' personnel 38.6% of the time and the % that they use '3 or more WRs' is a tick higher. That mathematically makes sense.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Not to nit pick, but there really is no way that the plays with 2+ HB on the field can be lower that the 21 personnel percentage since 21 personnel means 2 running backs.
You're right. That doesn't make sense.

I'm thinking they flipped the numbers. 21 personnel is 39% and when then add in any 20, 22, 23 and i guess theoretically any 30, 31, 32 groupings (I doubt we ran any but still it says 2+ Hbs) that would be 42%.
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This is from that article:
Instead, Shanahan implemented 21 personnel (two running backs, one tight end) heavily into his offense with a 42.3% usage rate (highest by over 13%), and as a result, 38.9% of their offensive plays in 2018 had two or more running backs on the field (the NFL's highest mark by over 4%).
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They even typed it out and apparently it makes sense to the author.
42.3% of the time the 49ers put out 2 RBs, 1 TE, 2 WRs.
38.9% of the time the 49ers used two or more RBs.
wat
Originally posted by thl408:
This is from that article:
Instead, Shanahan implemented 21 personnel (two running backs, one tight end) heavily into his offense with a 42.3% usage rate (highest by over 13%), and as a result, 38.9% of their offensive plays in 2018 had two or more running backs on the field (the NFL's highest mark by over 4%).
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They even typed it out and apparently it makes sense to the author.
42.3% of the time the 49ers put out 2 RBs, 1 TE, 2 WRs.
38.9% of the time the 49ers used two or more RBs.
wat

if this was a computer program it would get you a blue screen of death
  • thl408
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Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by thl408:
This is from that article:
Instead, Shanahan implemented 21 personnel (two running backs, one tight end) heavily into his offense with a 42.3% usage rate (highest by over 13%), and as a result, 38.9% of their offensive plays in 2018 had two or more running backs on the field (the NFL's highest mark by over 4%).
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They even typed it out and apparently it makes sense to the author.
42.3% of the time the 49ers put out 2 RBs, 1 TE, 2 WRs.
38.9% of the time the 49ers used two or more RBs.
wat

if this was a computer program it would get you a blue screen of death
They are dividing by 0 and taking the square root of a negative number.
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by thl408:
This is from that article:
Instead, Shanahan implemented 21 personnel (two running backs, one tight end) heavily into his offense with a 42.3% usage rate (highest by over 13%), and as a result, 38.9% of their offensive plays in 2018 had two or more running backs on the field (the NFL's highest mark by over 4%).
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They even typed it out and apparently it makes sense to the author.
42.3% of the time the 49ers put out 2 RBs, 1 TE, 2 WRs.
38.9% of the time the 49ers used two or more RBs.
wat

if this was a computer program it would get you a blue screen of death
They are dividing by 0 and taking the square root of a negative number.

Agree! Fake news!
I wonder if the author meant one of those percentage numbers is for 3rd down plays.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by thl408:
This is from that article:
Instead, Shanahan implemented 21 personnel (two running backs, one tight end) heavily into his offense with a 42.3% usage rate (highest by over 13%), and as a result, 38.9% of their offensive plays in 2018 had two or more running backs on the field (the NFL's highest mark by over 4%).
-------
They even typed it out and apparently it makes sense to the author.
42.3% of the time the 49ers put out 2 RBs, 1 TE, 2 WRs.
38.9% of the time the 49ers used two or more RBs.
wat

if this was a computer program it would get you a blue screen of death
They are dividing by 0 and taking the square root of a negative number.

Just maybe tough....Kyle is a wizard and could do something like this.

I bet McVay does ....."McVay runs 11 personnel 101% of the time...::3 or more WRs on the field 98% of the time" - PFF Focus
Yeah, a little late but my bad... I cant maths good.
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Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Yeah, a little late but my bad... I cant maths good.

I don't think trying to make 1 + 1 = 5 is considered math. It's more like cooking books or something like that.

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Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by Zealot:
Originally posted by LVJay:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/125878-49ers-kyle-shanahan-competitive-about-those-other-teams/

'We don't give a damn about those other teams'

THIS!

f**king love it!

Jim Tomsula was asked this one time. He responded by farting and then staring up for the next 5 minutes.

hilarious and sad
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Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by Zealot:
Originally posted by LVJay:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/125878-49ers-kyle-shanahan-competitive-about-those-other-teams/

'We don't give a damn about those other teams'

THIS!

f**king love it!

Jim Tomsula was asked this one time. He responded by farting and then staring up for the next 5 minutes.

hilarious and sad

I like Tomsula's response better.
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I like Tomsula's response better.

Kyle often gives long-winded answers. Tomsula's are shorter, but strong winded.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I like Tomsula's response better.

Kyle often gives long-winded answers. Tomsula's are shorter, but strong winded.

Needless to say, he blows everyone away with that answer.
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