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49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread
Apr 3, 2019 at 4:56 PM
- Cisco0623
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I've noticed this time of year. (The few weeks before a draft) is when we see the bat s**t craziest posts ever
Apr 3, 2019 at 9:52 PM
- KittleSkittle
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QB YPA leaders during the past 2 regular seasons (min. 250 att):
— Mike Clay (@MikeClayNFL) April 4, 2019
1. Mahomes 8.7
2. Garoppolo 8.5
3. Fitzpatrick 8.5
4. Mullens 8.3
5. Watson 8.3
6. Goff 8.2
7. Rivers 8.1
8. Brees 8.1
9. Ryan 7.9
10. Winston 7.9
11. Brady 7.8
12. Mayfield 7.7
13. Big Ben 7.6
14. Wilson 7.6
#2 and #4, all hail Shanny.
[ Edited by KittleSkittle on Apr 3, 2019 at 9:56 PM ]
Apr 4, 2019 at 3:09 PM
- NCommand
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Just realized the 49ers have lost 12 straight games in the Eastern Time Zone.
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) April 4, 2019
Apr 4, 2019 at 3:32 PM
- John_Candy
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Originally posted by NCommand:Just realized the 49ers have lost 12 straight games in the Eastern Time Zone.
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) April 4, 2019
https://www.49ers.com/news/a-first-look-at-the-49ers-2019-opponents
AWAY:
Arizona Cardinals, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Los Angeles Rams, New Orleans Saints, Seattle Seahawks, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Washington Redskins.
We could have up to 5 early games. I hope the scheduling gods put the NO and Baltimore games on Sunday or Monday night.
Apr 4, 2019 at 3:56 PM
- TheRickestRick
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Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:2010 49ers were 6-10, Harbs took them to 13-3 Year 1 and an NCF championship game appearance, damn near winning it. Did this during a lockout that limited his preseason to implement his system as well.
Originally posted by jcs:
49ers record before Jim? Last Playoff appearance before Jim?
Guy took a roster with holes and a few talented players players and molded them into a great team. Kyle has yet to have a winning season let alone win more than 6 games and year 3 doesn't seem like it's going to be much better.
Lets be real here, Harbaugh had way more to work with than Shanny did. There weren't that many "holes" in the roster in 2011 as there has been 2017-18. Harbaugh was a flash in the pan, and we were lucky things came together during most of his tenure. Don't forget Fangio's role in molding that defense into a top tier unit. He deserves more credit for holding it down when the offense was stinking it up during those years.
Kyle on the other hand had complete control of the roster, 100 million dollars in cap space and nearly 20 draft picks over the last two years and the best he's come up with is 6-10 in two tries. This isn't year one and he isn't "just" an offensive coordinator anymore. He's going to get judged as a HC and his wins and losses and right now he's failing. Hot seat is coming if he's not already there.
Lmao you're ridiculous. there's no hot seat and never has been. Just because he had all that cap space to work with and picks doesn't put him in a similar scenario or anything comparable to what Harbaugh walked into. We've had holes all over the place and still do. Harbaugh had none. 0. 2 completely different situations. night and day. if fans can't understand that then they're morons
Completely agree 100%
Not even comparable, McDrunky had finally put together a roster that went around 8-8 under Singletary and the Jimmy Raygun offense after how many years of high draft picks, 6ish? All it needed was legitimate coaching.
Shanalynch walked into the same scenario as the Rattay, Ken Dorsey era...
[ Edited by TheRickestRick on Apr 4, 2019 at 3:57 PM ]
Apr 4, 2019 at 4:24 PM
- RTFirefly
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Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:2010 49ers were 6-10, Harbs took them to 13-3 Year 1 and an NCF championship game appearance, damn near winning it. Did this during a lockout that limited his preseason to implement his system as well.
Originally posted by jcs:
49ers record before Jim? Last Playoff appearance before Jim?
Guy took a roster with holes and a few talented players players and molded them into a great team. Kyle has yet to have a winning season let alone win more than 6 games and year 3 doesn't seem like it's going to be much better.
Lets be real here, Harbaugh had way more to work with than Shanny did. There weren't that many "holes" in the roster in 2011 as there has been 2017-18. Harbaugh was a flash in the pan, and we were lucky things came together during most of his tenure. Don't forget Fangio's role in molding that defense into a top tier unit. He deserves more credit for holding it down when the offense was stinking it up during those years.
Kyle on the other hand had complete control of the roster, 100 million dollars in cap space and nearly 20 draft picks over the last two years and the best he's come up with is 6-10 in two tries. This isn't year one and he isn't "just" an offensive coordinator anymore. He's going to get judged as a HC and his wins and losses and right now he's failing. Hot seat is coming if he's not already there.
Lmao you're ridiculous. there's no hot seat and never has been. Just because he had all that cap space to work with and picks doesn't put him in a similar scenario or anything comparable to what Harbaugh walked into. We've had holes all over the place and still do. Harbaugh had none. 0. 2 completely different situations. night and day. if fans can't understand that then they're morons
Completely agree 100%
Not even comparable, McDrunky had finally put together a roster that went around 8-8 under Singletary and the Jimmy Raygun offense after how many years of high draft picks, 6ish? All it needed was legitimate coaching.
Shanalynch walked into the same scenario as the Rattay, Ken Dorsey era...
I'm a bigtime Harbs fan and firing him was a terrible mistake.
He did inherit a terrific roster. With the addition of Aldon, it was a great roster. Any comparison to Sing is a bad way to judge him. I loved Sing. The guy was a monster as a player, the prototypical overachiever at 6 ft. maybe. He developed our LBs into the best in the league. His crazy hard love turned VD's career around. But Sing couldn't organize and manage his way out of a paper bag, from practices to games. Paraag was active in the OC box while Jimmy Raye struggled with the time of day. Harbs came in and players were amazed that he taught more in that first shortened offseason than Sing had in his whole time here. Maybe most importantly, Alex was a new man.
That's why I won't even begin to judge Shanny. I fear that he won't show true greatness until his second team. If Jed gotta Jed again.
[ Edited by RTFirefly on Apr 4, 2019 at 4:29 PM ]
Apr 4, 2019 at 4:55 PM
- pasodoc9er
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Originally posted by NCommand:Just realized the 49ers have lost 12 straight games in the Eastern Time Zone.
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) April 4, 2019
Interesting negative fact. GOAT , BW, always had an answer. And early games in E time zones, we got in early, at least once never coming home with a second E. Time zone game the following week. Kyle has had so many other things to worry about and fix, things like this probably never got a thot. But it iS something that can be made more team friendly, getting the team on an E.coast schedule, maybe going a day or two earlier, resetting personal time clocks, etc.
Just look up in either of BW.s books and the answer is in there, I think it was the first book. Just a little thing but getting everyone on E. Time zone makes a difference. With better talent this yr, JG back, Kyle won't have so many major issues to deal with and small ones like this can be attended to and corrected.
Apr 4, 2019 at 4:56 PM
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[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Apr 4, 2019 at 4:58 PM ]
Apr 4, 2019 at 5:02 PM
- RTFirefly
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Just realized the 49ers have lost 12 straight games in the Eastern Time Zone.
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) April 4, 2019
Interesting negative fact. GOAT , BW, always had an answer. And early games in E time zones, we got in early, at least once never coming home with a second E. Time zone game the following week. Kyle has had so many other things to worry about and fix, things like this probably never got a thot. But it iS something that can be made more team friendly, getting the team on an E.coast schedule, maybe going a day or two earlier, resetting personal time clocks, etc.
Just look up in either of BW.s books and the answer is in there, I think it was the first book. Just a little thing but getting everyone on E. Time zone makes a difference. With better talent this yr, JG back, Kyle won't have so many major issues to deal with and small ones like this can be attended to and corrected.
It's the same thing as playing in Denver. I've seen HCs take two, equally valid approaches:
1) Get in late as possible and play before it catches up to you, and;
2) Get in early as possible and try to adjust.
Apr 4, 2019 at 5:10 PM
- captveg
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It would probably have helped if Jimmy G had played in any of those Eastern timezone games.
Apr 4, 2019 at 9:08 PM
- WINiner
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Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:2010 49ers were 6-10, Harbs took them to 13-3 Year 1 and an NCF championship game appearance, damn near winning it. Did this during a lockout that limited his preseason to implement his system as well.
Originally posted by jcs:
49ers record before Jim? Last Playoff appearance before Jim?
Guy took a roster with holes and a few talented players players and molded them into a great team. Kyle has yet to have a winning season let alone win more than 6 games and year 3 doesn't seem like it's going to be much better.
Lets be real here, Harbaugh had way more to work with than Shanny did. There weren't that many "holes" in the roster in 2011 as there has been 2017-18. Harbaugh was a flash in the pan, and we were lucky things came together during most of his tenure. Don't forget Fangio's role in molding that defense into a top tier unit. He deserves more credit for holding it down when the offense was stinking it up during those years.
Kyle on the other hand had complete control of the roster, 100 million dollars in cap space and nearly 20 draft picks over the last two years and the best he's come up with is 6-10 in two tries. This isn't year one and he isn't "just" an offensive coordinator anymore. He's going to get judged as a HC and his wins and losses and right now he's failing. Hot seat is coming if he's not already there.
Lmao you're ridiculous. there's no hot seat and never has been. Just because he had all that cap space to work with and picks doesn't put him in a similar scenario or anything comparable to what Harbaugh walked into. We've had holes all over the place and still do. Harbaugh had none. 0. 2 completely different situations. night and day. if fans can't understand that then they're morons
Completely agree 100%
glad you agree. unfortunately it was a personal attack calling what he wrote ridiculous
Actually that is the very directive of the forum. Attack the post, not the poster. People are allowed opinions on a post or this forum would be dumb.
Apr 4, 2019 at 10:26 PM
- tjd808185
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Originally posted by swoosh6996:Lets be real here, Harbaugh had way more to work with than Shanny did. There weren't that many "holes" in the roster in 2011 as there has been 2017-18. Harbaugh was a flash in the pan, and we were lucky things came together during most of his tenure. Don't forget Fangio's role in molding that defense into a top tier unit. He deserves more credit for holding it down when the offense was stinking it up during those years.
Fangio would be lucky to be college dc if it weren't for JH. Dude was a 3 time failed dc and got the gig upon recommendation from his brother.
Apr 5, 2019 at 5:01 AM
- Sanfran_chrisco
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Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by swoosh6996:2010 49ers were 6-10, Harbs took them to 13-3 Year 1 and an NCF championship game appearance, damn near winning it. Did this during a lockout that limited his preseason to implement his system as well.
Originally posted by jcs:
49ers record before Jim? Last Playoff appearance before Jim?
Guy took a roster with holes and a few talented players players and molded them into a great team. Kyle has yet to have a winning season let alone win more than 6 games and year 3 doesn't seem like it's going to be much better.
Lets be real here, Harbaugh had way more to work with than Shanny did. There weren't that many "holes" in the roster in 2011 as there has been 2017-18. Harbaugh was a flash in the pan, and we were lucky things came together during most of his tenure. Don't forget Fangio's role in molding that defense into a top tier unit. He deserves more credit for holding it down when the offense was stinking it up during those years.
Kyle on the other hand had complete control of the roster, 100 million dollars in cap space and nearly 20 draft picks over the last two years and the best he's come up with is 6-10 in two tries. This isn't year one and he isn't "just" an offensive coordinator anymore. He's going to get judged as a HC and his wins and losses and right now he's failing. Hot seat is coming if he's not already there.
Lmao you're ridiculous. there's no hot seat and never has been. Just because he had all that cap space to work with and picks doesn't put him in a similar scenario or anything comparable to what Harbaugh walked into. We've had holes all over the place and still do. Harbaugh had none. 0. 2 completely different situations. night and day. if fans can't understand that then they're morons
Completely agree 100%
glad you agree. unfortunately it was a personal attack calling what he wrote ridiculous
Actually that is the very directive of the forum. Attack the post, not the poster. People are allowed opinions on a post or this forum would be dumb.
and?
Apr 5, 2019 at 5:17 AM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by RTFirefly:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Originally posted by NCommand:Just realized the 49ers have lost 12 straight games in the Eastern Time Zone.
— Grant Cohn (@grantcohn) April 4, 2019
Interesting negative fact. GOAT , BW, always had an answer. And early games in E time zones, we got in early, at least once never coming home with a second E. Time zone game the following week. Kyle has had so many other things to worry about and fix, things like this probably never got a thot. But it iS something that can be made more team friendly, getting the team on an E.coast schedule, maybe going a day or two earlier, resetting personal time clocks, etc.
Just look up in either of BW.s books and the answer is in there, I think it was the first book. Just a little thing but getting everyone on E. Time zone makes a difference. With better talent this yr, JG back, Kyle won't have so many major issues to deal with and small ones like this can be attended to and corrected.
It's the same thing as playing in Denver. I've seen HCs take two, equally valid approaches:
1) Get in late as possible and play before it catches up to you, and;
2) Get in early as possible and try to adjust.
We never seemed to have problems with timezones when Michael Carter played for us.
Q.Williams anyone?
Apr 5, 2019 at 5:23 AM
- Giedi
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I have to agree, at least with the Aldon Smith point. ShanaLynch tenure so far has never had a decent edge rusher. Give ShanaLynch an Aldon without the alcohol and toxic girlfriend, and you may have another 13-3 season with a healthy Jimmy. Jimmy may not have injured himself if he had a decent defense. So at least with regards to having a better team, an edge rusher like Aldon make such a big difference, and that's why I think Harbaugh had the better team vs. ShanaLynch.Originally posted by TheRickestRick:Originally posted by swoosh6996:Originally posted by defenderDX:Originally posted by jcs:2010 49ers were 6-10, Harbs took them to 13-3 Year 1 and an NCF championship game appearance, damn near winning it. Did this during a lockout that limited his preseason to implement his system as well.Originally posted by swoosh6996:Originally posted by jcs:49ers record before Jim? Last Playoff appearance before Jim?
Guy took a roster with holes and a few talented players players and molded them into a great team. Kyle has yet to have a winning season let alone win more than 6 games and year 3 doesn't seem like it's going to be much better.
Lets be real here, Harbaugh had way more to work with than Shanny did. There weren't that many "holes" in the roster in 2011 as there has been 2017-18. Harbaugh was a flash in the pan, and we were lucky things came together during most of his tenure. Don't forget Fangio's role in molding that defense into a top tier unit. He deserves more credit for holding it down when the offense was stinking it up during those years.
Kyle on the other hand had complete control of the roster, 100 million dollars in cap space and nearly 20 draft picks over the last two years and the best he's come up with is 6-10 in two tries. This isn't year one and he isn't "just" an offensive coordinator anymore. He's going to get judged as a HC and his wins and losses and right now he's failing. Hot seat is coming if he's not already there.
Lmao you're ridiculous. there's no hot seat and never has been. Just because he had all that cap space to work with and picks doesn't put him in a similar scenario or anything comparable to what Harbaugh walked into. We've had holes all over the place and still do. Harbaugh had none. 0. 2 completely different situations. night and day. if fans can't understand that then they're morons
Completely agree 100%
Not even comparable, McDrunky had finally put together a roster that went around 8-8 under Singletary and the Jimmy Raygun offense after how many years of high draft picks, 6ish? All it needed was legitimate coaching.
Shanalynch walked into the same scenario as the Rattay, Ken Dorsey era...