49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:
Kick returns remove an offensive drive.

Manning threw for almost 300 yards 3 TDs. Just because he got turnover happy like he tends to do doesn't mean that defense was shutting him down in the least bit.

Andrew Luck as a rookie with no running game doesn't mean a thing. Shutting down Brady as the Pats put up almost 100 more yards than Baltimore that day missing Gronk who was the key part of their offense, so impressive and totally not a reflection of the Pats turning it over 3 times.

Ravens were weak against the run, giving up over 100 yards in each of those "shutdown" games you're talking about and we come in with one of the best OLs in the game with Frank Gore and Kap running all over people...but sure that defense was built to stop us.

Pretending that a defense with Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman is somehow doomed because two pass rushers are banged up is exactly what you're claiming other people are doing...an excuse.

That was a record setting offense. Picking off the qb twice and holding them to 3 scores is shutting them down. Different gameplans for a read option qb compared to Luck/Manning/Brady. They were focused on pass more than run

That defense didn't become elite until Aldon teamed up with Justin and we had an elite pass rush. Without that defense wasn't elite anymore. Great Lbs can't make up for no pass rush and no secondary

No amount of mental gymnastics will change the fact that we were built to beat that defense. They were weak vs the run and we had one of the best rushing offenses in the league, especially once Kap took over for Alex. Dominant 2 TE set, great OL.

Special teams return TDs eliminate an offensive drive. Turnovers, especially when they bounce of WRs hands don't translate to dominance. That's luck.

Also getting to play Manning and that offense in cold weather...where Peyton routinely struggled is also a plus.

There was a reason 49ers were 5 point favorites going into that game. We should've won that game and the fact that it took something crazy like a blackout to even make it close vs a blowout loss is an epic fail.

The offense was fine. They scored more than the Peyton offense did. You guys would be calling for Kyle's gold jacket if he did that

Offense was fine before the blackout too?

What an amazing coaching move by Harbaugh making sure the lights go out and the Ravens lose all their momentum. Why the heck didn't Shanahan think of that after Seattle returned the opening kickoff for a TD?

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:
Kick returns remove an offensive drive.

Manning threw for almost 300 yards 3 TDs. Just because he got turnover happy like he tends to do doesn't mean that defense was shutting him down in the least bit.

Andrew Luck as a rookie with no running game doesn't mean a thing. Shutting down Brady as the Pats put up almost 100 more yards than Baltimore that day missing Gronk who was the key part of their offense, so impressive and totally not a reflection of the Pats turning it over 3 times.

Ravens were weak against the run, giving up over 100 yards in each of those "shutdown" games you're talking about and we come in with one of the best OLs in the game with Frank Gore and Kap running all over people...but sure that defense was built to stop us.

Pretending that a defense with Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman is somehow doomed because two pass rushers are banged up is exactly what you're claiming other people are doing...an excuse.

That was a record setting offense. Picking off the qb twice and holding them to 3 scores is shutting them down. Different gameplans for a read option qb compared to Luck/Manning/Brady. They were focused on pass more than run

That defense didn't become elite until Aldon teamed up with Justin and we had an elite pass rush. Without that defense wasn't elite anymore. Great Lbs can't make up for no pass rush and no secondary

No amount of mental gymnastics will change the fact that we were built to beat that defense. They were weak vs the run and we had one of the best rushing offenses in the league, especially once Kap took over for Alex. Dominant 2 TE set, great OL.

Special teams return TDs eliminate an offensive drive. Turnovers, especially when they bounce of WRs hands don't translate to dominance. That's luck.

Also getting to play Manning and that offense in cold weather...where Peyton routinely struggled is also a plus.

There was a reason 49ers were 5 point favorites going into that game. We should've won that game and the fact that it took something crazy like a blackout to even make it close vs a blowout loss is an epic fail.

The offense was fine. They scored more than the Peyton offense did. You guys would be calling for Kyle's gold jacket if he did that

Offense was fine before the blackout too?

What an amazing coaching move by Harbaugh making sure the lights go out and the Ravens lose all their momentum. Why the heck didn't Shanahan think of that after Seattle returned the opening kickoff for a TD?

First half of the Harbs Superbowl was a coaching disaster....2nd half was a coaching clinic that would have been regarded as the greatest come from behind win in SB history outside of NE's vs the Falcons when Kyle was involved in choking that game away. Should have given it to Gore instead of trying to force Kap to be the hero.

Originally posted by genus49:

Offense was fine before the blackout too?

What an amazing coaching move by Harbaugh making sure the lights go out and the Ravens lose all their momentum. Why the heck didn't Shanahan think of that after Seattle returned the opening kickoff for a TD?

I thought it was honestly. Turnovers and FG settling were killing us, but we were moving the ball well and that carried over into the second half

Regardless, it's stupid to act like the ravens sucked or they didn't belong there. They were a contender every year, had been to multiple conference championships, should've been in the SB the year before, and were the hottest team with the hottest qb in the league (like all time hot). Acting like that's the worst sb team ever is dumb, especially looking at the gauntlet they went through to win it

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I thought it was honestly. Turnovers and FG settling were killing us, but we were moving the ball well and that carried over into the second half

Regardless, it's stupid to act like the ravens sucked or they didn't belong there. They were a contender every year, had been to multiple conference championships, should've been in the SB the year before, and were the hottest team with the hottest qb in the league (like all time hot). Acting like that's the worst sb team ever is dumb, especially looking at the gauntlet they went through to win it

Acting like they are an all time team when they went into the tank right afterwards is what's dumb. They were 5.5 dogs for a reason. Because New England and Denver were weak teams in 2012 doesn't change that

The 2012 Ravens wouldn't compete any better agains the 2019 or 23 Chiefs than the Ravens teams of those years did.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I thought it was honestly. Turnovers and FG settling were killing us, but we were moving the ball well and that carried over into the second half

Regardless, it's stupid to act like the ravens sucked or they didn't belong there. They were a contender every year, had been to multiple conference championships, should've been in the SB the year before, and were the hottest team with the hottest qb in the league (like all time hot). Acting like that's the worst sb team ever is dumb, especially looking at the gauntlet they went through to win it

Acting like they are an all time team when they went into the tank right afterwards is what's dumb. They were 5.5 dogs for a reason. Because New England and Denver were weak teams in 2012 doesn't change that

The 2012 Ravens wouldn't compete any better agains the 2019 or 23 Chiefs than the Ravens teams of those years did.

Showing Shanahan lost the SB cuz of a few critical mistakes that had nothing to do with coaching = excuses.
Pretending the 2012 Ravens were the 89 version of the 49ers and claiming injuries on defense were why we lost that game = rational thought.

Originally posted by jcs:
First half of the Harbs Superbowl was a coaching disaster....2nd half was a coaching clinic that would have been regarded as the greatest come from behind win in SB history outside of NE's vs the Falcons when Kyle was involved in choking that game away. Should have given it to Gore instead of trying to force Kap to be the hero.

Is that not a coaching decision?

Originally posted by genus49:
Showing Shanahan lost the SB cuz of a few critical mistakes that had nothing to do with coaching = excuses.
Pretending the 2012 Ravens were the 89 version of the 49ers and claiming injuries on defense were why we lost that game = rational thought.

Nevermind ignoring the injuries the Pats O had that season that directly contributed to Ravens winning. But those injuries dont matter just Aldon and Justin.

Originally posted by genus49:
Is that not a coaching decision?

Was a coaching decision to not have the play in on time for sure. Something that never got better over 4 years.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by jcs:
First half of the Harbs Superbowl was a coaching disaster....2nd half was a coaching clinic that would have been regarded as the greatest come from behind win in SB history outside of NE's vs the Falcons when Kyle was involved in choking that game away. Should have given it to Gore instead of trying to force Kap to be the hero.

Is that not a coaching decision?

It was. Harbs was a former NFL QB however and stubborn as hell when he was here. He wanted Kap to be the hero and it didn't work out. I'd like to say he's certainly has changed since 2013 going back to his national championship and how he's handling the Chargers today.

Originally posted by jcs:
It was. Harbs was a former NFL QB however and stubborn as hell when he was here. He wanted Kap to be the hero and it didn't work out. I'd like to say he's certainly has changed since 2013 going back to his national championship and how he's handling the Chargers today.

Look who is OC was. No change

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Acting like they are an all time team when they went into the tank right afterwards is what's dumb. They were 5.5 dogs for a reason. Because New England and Denver were weak teams in 2012 doesn't change that

The 2012 Ravens wouldn't compete any better agains the 2019 or 23 Chiefs than the Ravens teams of those years did.

They weren't an all time team, but to say they are the worst of the century is lol and hard cope for Kyle blowing so many SBs

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

I thought it was honestly. Turnovers and FG settling were killing us, but we were moving the ball well and that carried over into the second half

Regardless, it's stupid to act like the ravens sucked or they didn't belong there. They were a contender every year, had been to multiple conference championships, should've been in the SB the year before, and were the hottest team with the hottest qb in the league (like all time hot). Acting like that's the worst sb team ever is dumb, especially looking at the gauntlet they went through to win it

Acting like they are an all time team when they went into the tank right afterwards is what's dumb. They were 5.5 dogs for a reason. Because New England and Denver were weak teams in 2012 doesn't change that

The 2012 Ravens wouldn't compete any better agains the 2019 or 23 Chiefs than the Ravens teams of those years did.

Showing Shanahan lost the SB cuz of a few critical mistakes that had nothing to do with coaching = excuses.
Pretending the 2012 Ravens were the 89 version of the 49ers and claiming injuries on defense were why we lost that game = rational thought.

Can you quote me saying the Ravens were an all time team? You guys love to make stuff up so you can pat yourselves on the back. Do you think we lose that sb with a healthy defense?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They weren't an all time team, but to say they are the worst of the century is lol and hard cope for Kyle blowing so many SBs

Only team id consider taking the 12 Ravens over is 18 Eagles.

What's hard cope is pretending a 5.5 pt underdog was unbeatable but losing to a dynasty is fireable

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Can you quote me saying the Ravens were an all time team? You guys love to make stuff up so you can pat yourselves on the back. Do you think we lose that sb with a healthy defense?

I dont think the Ravans make it to the SB if all teams were healthy

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Can you quote me saying the Ravens were an all time team? You guys love to make stuff up so you can pat yourselves on the back. Do you think we lose that sb with a healthy defense?

You turned Joe Flacco into Joe Montana for that playoff run. You claimed that Ravens D "shutdown" 3 HOF QBs completely ignoring reality and difference between each game and the team we put on the field. But we're the ones making stuff up

At the same time you call other people out for "excuses" while at the same time saying the 49ers defense in 2012 wasn't healthy while they actually played in the whole game.

I'm sure things would've been different if Aldon and Justin were fully healthy but you don't seem to have the same energy for the 49ers losses in the SB under Kyle.

Kyle didn't have the luxury to have his week 1 roster on the field that day, even if dealing with shoulder issues.

I can show you what actually happened in each game. Shanahan put the players in position to succeed in each of those games. Harbaugh didn't.