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Someone tell Mostert to focus on not being brittle and mind his business. Lol
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:


Damn JT goes hard at "Kyle"

Huh. So scheme and design choices and players not knowing what to do within them leads to other players at risk for injury? Who knew?

JTO's stealing your stuff from the Injury Thread, NC, are you going to do nothing about it?

From Lombardi to JTO to Cohn. Hi Grant. LOL


I clicked the link. Ouch, my eyes and ears!

My IQ -->

All I can say is that in 1981, Bill Walsh ran the ball to set up the *Catch I* in the last minutes of that game. I think Kyle has a bent towards the passing game when he panics. Just like football players revert to what they are comfortable with in an emergency situation, I think Kyle tends to panic in certain situations and start throwing. One reason why is that he's a WR kind of guy, he is comfortable with the pass as originally he played WR in college.

I think Kyle has to get his inner barbarian going. I think it was the Seattle playoff game this year where - if I remember correctly - one of the Seattle players tried to injure Deebo by twisting his leg. The whole team including Kyle was out on the field. Then the next thing was Kyle calling about 9 straight run plays for a TD. I think instead of Kyle getting jitters, he should start getting pissed off and just run over teams like in the Seattle playoff game and in the 2019 NFCCG. He has a wonderful rushing attack to do it too.

Haha. That was just a joke. Cohn is a frequent visitor here too.

Yeah, Kyle, like every coach, has his tendencies. Hopefully in the future, it won't matter if he should have run when he chose to pass or pass when he should have run. Having a full time built in security blanket like CMC has made a massive difference for his QB's. No doubt. But there are some scheme/design/coaching points that could make life a bit easier on his QB and his health. No doubt.

Having a great QB helps to. And I think there's a better than not chance that is exactly what we have with Purdy.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
From Lombardi to JTO to Cohn. Hi Grant. LOL


Best coach in the league right now, but still "learning" how to operate his team from guys on the internet.

There's no what-ifs here other than Jimmy completing that completely wide open pass for the touchdown.

Or him throwing short of the sticks—twice—in the red zone on third down when there was a guy open beyond the sticks (and in one case directly in his field of vision). That's 6 points instead of 14.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
From Lombardi to JTO to Cohn. Hi Grant. LOL


Best coach in the league right now, but still "learning" how to operate his team from guys on the internet.

There's no what-ifs here other than Jimmy completing that completely wide open pass for the touchdown.

Or him throwing short of the sticks—twice—in the red zone on third down when there was a guy open beyond the sticks (and in one case directly in his field of vision). That's 6 points instead of 14.

One of my favorite parts about Purdy was the way he attacked the redzone. He would attempt, and usually make, those tough tight window throws. Also, he a handful of beautiful off script touchdowns down there. That's something we've been missing for a long time.

Jimmy was okay in the redzone, the offense was solid, but we didn't have that killer instinct down there. That is where you really need a good qb.
Originally posted by tankle104:
One of my favorite parts about Purdy was the way he attacked the redzone. He would attempt, and usually make, those tough tight window throws. Also, he a handful of beautiful off script touchdowns down there. That's something we've been missing for a long time.

Jimmy was okay in the redzone, the offense was solid, but we didn't have that killer instinct down there. That is where you really need a good qb.

That leaped off the screen to me as well, I ran the numbers back at the end of the season, and there is a clear statistical uptick in the redzone. We have to go back to Steve and Jerry to get better redzone production.

It is crazy how well the offense clicked at the end of the year.

We just the triple whammy of adding CMC, the re-emergence of Kittle, and a young but functional QB in Brock.....I love Shanny 2.0...I really so....but we have to add-in removing the gadget plays and the desire to force the ball to Deebo come hell or high water....it allowed the great players to just go out and be great players.

They are not better becuase Deebo was not there, they were better becuase the coach calls a better conventional game plan then trying to force the offense to involve Deebo.

Team is so very stacked on offense, truth is there is probably another gear for them. They can probably take it up another level.
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
From Lombardi to JTO to Cohn. Hi Grant. LOL


Best coach in the league right now, but still "learning" how to operate his team from guys on the internet.

There's no what-ifs here other than Jimmy completing that completely wide open pass for the touchdown.



How many times did mostert touch the ball in the first quarter of the superbowl?

I'm waiting.
[ Edited by JoseCortez on Apr 2, 2023 at 8:01 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:


Damn JT goes hard at "Kyle"

Huh. So scheme and design choices and players not knowing what to do within them leads to other players at risk for injury? Who knew?

JTO's stealing your stuff from the Injury Thread, NC, are you going to do nothing about it?

From Lombardi to JTO to Cohn. Hi Grant. LOL


I clicked the link. Ouch, my eyes and ears!

My IQ -->

All I can say is that in 1981, Bill Walsh ran the ball to set up the *Catch I* in the last minutes of that game. I think Kyle has a bent towards the passing game when he panics. Just like football players revert to what they are comfortable with in an emergency situation, I think Kyle tends to panic in certain situations and start throwing. One reason why is that he's a WR kind of guy, he is comfortable with the pass as originally he played WR in college.

I think Kyle has to get his inner barbarian going. I think it was the Seattle playoff game this year where - if I remember correctly - one of the Seattle players tried to injure Deebo by twisting his leg. The whole team including Kyle was out on the field. Then the next thing was Kyle calling about 9 straight run plays for a TD. I think instead of Kyle getting jitters, he should start getting pissed off and just run over teams like in the Seattle playoff game and in the 2019 NFCCG. He has a wonderful rushing attack to do it too.

Haha. That was just a joke. Cohn is a frequent visitor here too.

Yeah, Kyle, like every coach, has his tendencies. Hopefully in the future, it won't matter if he should have run when he chose to pass or pass when he should have run. Having a full time built in security blanket like CMC has made a massive difference for his QB's. No doubt. But there are some scheme/design/coaching points that could make life a bit easier on his QB and his health. No doubt.
Saying the opposite should have been called is a factor, but there are time where you have no choice like X down and long

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
From Lombardi to JTO to Cohn. Hi Grant. LOL


Best coach in the league right now, but still "learning" how to operate his team from guys on the internet.

There's no what-ifs here other than Jimmy completing that completely wide open pass for the touchdown.



How many times did mostert touch the ball in the first quarter of the superbowl?

I'm waiting.

We had one possession in the first quarter and we opened with Coleman at HB (Wilson also played on this series) which was the way Kyle usually approached the first series and the scripted plays.

Should Mostert have opened the game and if yes then why? Does he help the offense more during the script led portion and if yes then why?
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
From Lombardi to JTO to Cohn. Hi Grant. LOL


Best coach in the league right now, but still "learning" how to operate his team from guys on the internet.

There's no what-ifs here other than Jimmy completing that completely wide open pass for the touchdown.



How many times did mostert touch the ball in the first quarter of the superbowl?

I'm waiting.

We had one possession in the first quarter and we opened with Coleman at HB (Wilson also played on this series) which was the way Kyle usually approached the first series and the scripted plays.

Should Mostert have opened the game and if yes then why? Does he help the offense more during the script led portion and if yes then why?

It has nothing to do with scripted or unscripted plays. It's actually worse that Shanahan scripted nasty tevin Coleman as the starting back in the frigging superbowl.

Why would Shanahan not ride the hot hand with mostert? He ran all over the packers and he was damn successful against the chiefs.

It's a damn shame.

We need to stop with the shanahan excuses. He chokes in big moments. There is no way to justify his gameplan in the superbowl.
[ Edited by JoseCortez on Apr 2, 2023 at 8:29 PM ]
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by tankle104:
One of my favorite parts about Purdy was the way he attacked the redzone. He would attempt, and usually make, those tough tight window throws. Also, he a handful of beautiful off script touchdowns down there. That's something we've been missing for a long time.

Jimmy was okay in the redzone, the offense was solid, but we didn't have that killer instinct down there. That is where you really need a good qb.

That leaped off the screen to me as well, I ran the numbers back at the end of the season, and there is a clear statistical uptick in the redzone. We have to go back to Steve and Jerry to get better redzone production.

It is crazy how well the offense clicked at the end of the year.

We just the triple whammy of adding CMC, the re-emergence of Kittle, and a young but functional QB in Brock.....I love Shanny 2.0...I really so....but we have to add-in removing the gadget plays and the desire to force the ball to Deebo come hell or high water....it allowed the great players to just go out and be great players.

They are not better becuase Deebo was not there, they were better becuase the coach calls a better conventional game plan then trying to force the offense to involve Deebo.

Team is so very stacked on offense, truth is there is probably another gear for them. They can probably take it up another level.

I personally think that the way Purdy plays/sees the game mixed with how Kyle does, makes the play calling extremely effective and Insyc. The offense was rolling big time and the efficiency was off the chart. That's why I get confused when others diminish it because it literally couldn't of been much better.

the offense rolls much better when we aren't depending or feeding one player, it keeps the defense on their heels and then couple that with Purdys aggressiveness… it's a thing of beauty. Averaging 33 ppg over a 6 game stretch is very difficult to do. I'm eager to see how we look next year once Purdy is healthy.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Apr 2, 2023 at 9:29 PM ]

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
It has nothing to do with scripted or unscripted plays. It's actually worse that Shanahan scripted nasty tevin Coleman as the starting back in the frigging superbowl.

Why would Shanahan not ride the hot hand with mostert? He ran all over the packers and he was damn successful against the chiefs.

It's a damn shame.

We need to stop with the shanahan excuses. He chokes in big moments. There is no way to justify his gameplan in the superbowl.

But it does.

I had a longer response but honestly, it's not worth my time. The content of your posts just reads like utter nonsense tbph.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by tankle104:
One of my favorite parts about Purdy was the way he attacked the redzone. He would attempt, and usually make, those tough tight window throws. Also, he a handful of beautiful off script touchdowns down there. That's something we've been missing for a long time.

Jimmy was okay in the redzone, the offense was solid, but we didn't have that killer instinct down there. That is where you really need a good qb.

That leaped off the screen to me as well, I ran the numbers back at the end of the season, and there is a clear statistical uptick in the redzone. We have to go back to Steve and Jerry to get better redzone production.

It is crazy how well the offense clicked at the end of the year.

We just the triple whammy of adding CMC, the re-emergence of Kittle, and a young but functional QB in Brock.....I love Shanny 2.0...I really so....but we have to add-in removing the gadget plays and the desire to force the ball to Deebo come hell or high water....it allowed the great players to just go out and be great players.

They are not better becuase Deebo was not there, they were better becuase the coach calls a better conventional game plan then trying to force the offense to involve Deebo.

Team is so very stacked on offense, truth is there is probably another gear for them. They can probably take it up another level.

I personally think that the way Purdy plays/sees the game mixed with how Kyle does, makes the play calling extremely effective and Insyc. The offense was rolling big time and the efficiency was off the chart. That's why I get confused when others diminish it because it literally couldn't of been much better.

the offense rolls much better when we aren't depending or feeding one player, it keeps the defense on their heels and then couple that with Purdys aggressiveness… it's a thing of beauty. Averaging 33 ppg over a 6 game stretch is very difficult to do. I'm eager to see how we look next year once Purdy is healthy.

Keep in mind the big change in the offense may not have been the QB, but the RB in CMC. The offense changed significantly once he was in Kyles offense.

I've always thought that if Kyle was going to be a run first coach, he would base his offense on a top notch first round first pick type of RB. However he's never drafted a RB high. The highest he's drafted a RB, I think, is 3rd round. CMC is a franchise RB worthy of the 8th pick overall. It was a highway robbery that Kyle got CMC for basically peanuts.

Its my hope that going forward, CMC will help Kyle be more balanced in the playoffs and avoid being one dimensional.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by tankle104:
One of my favorite parts about Purdy was the way he attacked the redzone. He would attempt, and usually make, those tough tight window throws. Also, he a handful of beautiful off script touchdowns down there. That's something we've been missing for a long time.

Jimmy was okay in the redzone, the offense was solid, but we didn't have that killer instinct down there. That is where you really need a good qb.

That leaped off the screen to me as well, I ran the numbers back at the end of the season, and there is a clear statistical uptick in the redzone. We have to go back to Steve and Jerry to get better redzone production.

It is crazy how well the offense clicked at the end of the year.

We just the triple whammy of adding CMC, the re-emergence of Kittle, and a young but functional QB in Brock.....I love Shanny 2.0...I really so....but we have to add-in removing the gadget plays and the desire to force the ball to Deebo come hell or high water....it allowed the great players to just go out and be great players.

They are not better becuase Deebo was not there, they were better becuase the coach calls a better conventional game plan then trying to force the offense to involve Deebo.

Team is so very stacked on offense, truth is there is probably another gear for them. They can probably take it up another level.

I personally think that the way Purdy plays/sees the game mixed with how Kyle does, makes the play calling extremely effective and Insyc. The offense was rolling big time and the efficiency was off the chart. That's why I get confused when others diminish it because it literally couldn't of been much better.

the offense rolls much better when we aren't depending or feeding one player, it keeps the defense on their heels and then couple that with Purdys aggressiveness… it's a thing of beauty. Averaging 33 ppg over a 6 game stretch is very difficult to do. I'm eager to see how we look next year once Purdy is healthy.

Keep in mind the big change in the offense may not have been the QB, but the RB in CMC. The offense changed significantly once he was in Kyles offense.

I've always thought that if Kyle was going to be a run first coach, he would base his offense on a top notch first round first pick type of RB. However he's never drafted a RB high. The highest he's drafted a RB, I think, is 3rd round. CMC is a franchise RB worthy of the 8th pick overall. It was a highway robbery that Kyle got CMC for basically peanuts.

Its my hope that going forward, CMC will help Kyle be more balanced in the playoffs and avoid being one dimensional.

CMC was a huge piece, no doubt, because he's so versatile. Not only versatile, but exceptional at all aspects of playing RB. He's a perfect fit for the offense we run. I still attribute the lion share to Purdy, but it's definitely a combination of both parties that boosted the offense.

cmc helped with the play calling and an effective run game but he also benefited from our effective, aggressive, and efficient pass game with Purdy too.

Overall, I couldn't care less who exactly contributed more.. just that they keep doing it 😍😍
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:


Damn JT goes hard at "Kyle"

Huh. So scheme and design choices and players not knowing what to do within them leads to other players at risk for injury? Who knew?

JTO's stealing your stuff from the Injury Thread, NC, are you going to do nothing about it?

From Lombardi to JTO to Cohn. Hi Grant. LOL


I clicked the link. Ouch, my eyes and ears!

My IQ -->

All I can say is that in 1981, Bill Walsh ran the ball to set up the *Catch I* in the last minutes of that game. I think Kyle has a bent towards the passing game when he panics. Just like football players revert to what they are comfortable with in an emergency situation, I think Kyle tends to panic in certain situations and start throwing. One reason why is that he's a WR kind of guy, he is comfortable with the pass as originally he played WR in college.

I think Kyle has to get his inner barbarian going. I think it was the Seattle playoff game this year where - if I remember correctly - one of the Seattle players tried to injure Deebo by twisting his leg. The whole team including Kyle was out on the field. Then the next thing was Kyle calling about 9 straight run plays for a TD. I think instead of Kyle getting jitters, he should start getting pissed off and just run over teams like in the Seattle playoff game and in the 2019 NFCCG. He has a wonderful rushing attack to do it too.

Haha. That was just a joke. Cohn is a frequent visitor here too.

Yeah, Kyle, like every coach, has his tendencies. Hopefully in the future, it won't matter if he should have run when he chose to pass or pass when he should have run. Having a full time built in security blanket like CMC has made a massive difference for his QB's. No doubt. But there are some scheme/design/coaching points that could make life a bit easier on his QB and his health. No doubt.

Having a great QB helps to. And I think there's a better than not chance that is exactly what we have with Purdy.

Purdy gets hurt too.

Pivoting to "a great QB" doesn't really help the overall injury problem. This organization has had many great QB's who get hurt too.
[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 3, 2023 at 2:48 AM ]
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the same BS Shanny was criticized for with the infamous 28–3 collapse. Not running the ball enough against NE to try and eat clock and shorten the game or whatever. Oh and by the way still trying to blame that loss on him is BS to the umpteenth degree, Dan Quinn deserves most of it since he was head coach. So sick of this revisionist history garbage.
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