John Lynch - 49ers GM

John lynch is gonna be on knbr at 12(pt) heads up to every1..

Originally posted by Niner_Faithful_MTL:

John lynch is gonna be on knbr at 12(pt) heads up to every1..

Thanks.

Sounds like we'll be looking for that big-bodied ZWR next year... for now, there's Kittle.

One thing you have to be able to do, when you're down near the red zone and everything tightens up, you have guys who man-on-man can just beat the guy in front of him. We were concerned we didn't have that and were going to have to live without it for a year. We feel like George Kittle maybe gives us something where he is that guy, in a one-on-one situation you can flex him out, put him in the middle of the field and he can kind of impose his will and just out-athlete people. That has been extremely positive. We thought that coming in, but he probably exceeded our expectations."

I noticed the same things about Kittle to close out minicamp. He reminds me of former Redskins tight end Chris Cooley. He's slippery once he has the ball in his hands, and quick enough to beat safeties in the middle of the field.

Music to my ears. How many yrs since we had that guy? Pre 2000? Whatever it's been way too long. In the glory yrs we had one guy after another. We need to have that again, and if Kittle can do that, huzzah.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Sounds like we'll be looking for that big-bodied ZWR next year... for now, there's Kittle.

One thing you have to be able to do, when you're down near the red zone and everything tightens up, you have guys who man-on-man can just beat the guy in front of him. We were concerned we didn't have that and were going to have to live without it for a year. We feel like George Kittle maybe gives us something where he is that guy, in a one-on-one situation you can flex him out, put him in the middle of the field and he can kind of impose his will and just out-athlete people. That has been extremely positive. We thought that coming in, but he probably exceeded our expectations."

I noticed the same things about Kittle to close out minicamp. He reminds me of former Redskins tight end Chris Cooley. He's slippery once he has the ball in his hands, and quick enough to beat safeties in the middle of the field.

Courtland Sutton says pick me.

Originally posted by genus49:
Courtland Sutton says pick me.

I don't think Sutton has the type of blocking and ability to separate that Shanahan covets in his receivers. Dude is flat out lazy at times and can give half-assed effort. He reminds me a lot of Alshon Jeffery.

I don't think next year's class is a good one if you're looking for size. The best guys(ie Christian Kirk and Calvin Ridley) are not big.

Originally posted by Heroism:

I don't think Sutton has the type of blocking and ability to separate that Shanahan covets in his receivers. Dude is flat out lazy at times and can give half-assed effort. He reminds me a lot of Alshon Jeffery.

I don't think next year's class is a good one if you're looking for size. The best guys(ie Christian Kirk and Calvin Ridley) are not big.

His route running can improve but I think he'll be just fine separating at this level.

Hey well Jeffery was all about turning it up in the NFL. Boom or bust classic from the sounds of it.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/6/22/15857686/john-dorsey-fired-chiefs-general-manager-49ers-adam-peters

This article was posted in another thread by Jcool. Usually it's a good barometer of success and respect when teams come calling for pieces of an organization's infrastructure. Right now this is more speculation than anything from the writer of this article on Adam Peters' future with the team, but playing hypotheticals right now, I'd certainly like to keep Peters longer than one season. At the very least I'd like to see him here three full seasons to see how much impact he has on our drafting process, and thus his hand on our team development.

This is Peters dream job (I mean possibly the GM of SF). He grew up a fan and is a native of CA. That was one of the main reasons John Elway let him go in the first place.

I don't see him going anywhere for some time.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/6/22/15857686/john-dorsey-fired-chiefs-general-manager-49ers-adam-peters

This article was posted in another thread by Jcool. Usually it's a good barometer of success and respect when teams come calling for pieces of an organization's infrastructure. Right now this is more speculation than anything from the writer of this article on Adam Peters' future with the team, but playing hypotheticals right now, I'd certainly like to keep Peters longer than one season. At the very least I'd like to see him here three full seasons to see how much impact he has on our drafting process, and thus his hand on our team development.

This is Peters dream job (I mean possibly the GM of SF). He grew up a fan and is a native of CA. That was one of the main reasons John Elway let him go in the first place.

I don't see him going anywhere for some time.

I was more or less speaking on hypothetical speculation based upon the write up. In my opinion I think it's too soon for Peters to attract mainstream attention. You still have other personnel guys that have been knocking on the door for the last couple of years plus Dorsey is out there now. I would like to think the league would want to give Peters a little time in his current role and observe the impact he has on the 49ers first before considering him a serious gm candidate.

On a side note good observation on Peters being a Cali guy, but I think the main reason Elway let him go was because it was a nice career move for Peters. He was stuck behind some other personnel guys in Denver in a bit of a numbers game plus Peters and Elway both have a standing relationship with Lynch. Elway kind of alluded to as much.

I would love to keep Peters for awhile and eventually maybe move Lynch up to more of a presidential role while making Peters more of a gm if things progress well the incoming years, otherwise hometown or not, Peters will start garnering more serious attention at some point. In the end, I would think the opportunity to be a GM would draw him away eventually, if he doesn't get that opportunity here. That is usually the ultimate dream job for all personnel people just as being a head coach is for coaching assistants.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
I was more or less speaking on hypothetical speculation based upon the write up. In my opinion I think it's too soon for Peters to attract mainstream attention. You still have other personnel guys that have been knocking on the door for the last couple of years plus Dorsey is out there now. I would like to think the league would want to give Peters a little time in his current role and observe the impact he has on the 49ers first before considering him a serious gm candidate.

On a side note good observation on Peters being a Cali guy but I think the main reason Elway let him go was because it was a nice career move for Peters who was stuck behind some other personnel guys in Denver in a bit of a numbers game plus Peters and Elway both have a standing relationship with Lynch. Elway kind of alluded to as much.

I would love to keep Peters for awhile and eventually maybe move Lynch up to more of a presidential role while making Peters more of a gm if things progress well the incoming years, otherwise hometown or not, Peters will start garnering more serious attention at some point. In the end, I would think the opportunity to be a GM would draw him away eventually, if he doesn't get that opportunity here. That is usually the ultimate dream job for all personnel people just as being a head coach is for coaching assistants.

Elway stated that it was a big promotion BUT one of the big things is that's were Peters is from and wanted to go. He's a 9er at heart

Sometimes guys just like where there at...one dude that comes to mind is Nick Caserio and you're right there's a lot of up an coming GMs who has a step up on Peters for a GM spot. I don't see him going anywhere for the time being. It would have to be the ideal spot to get him to leave his 49ers IMO.

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Originally posted by 9moon:
and i fully remember that MOST OF YOU GUYS laughed at when I had Brent Jones in mind about becoming a GM.. uhmm, what did you all say again???

"GREAT, AN EX PLAYER TO BECOME A GM W/O ANY EPXPERIENCE"..

We said BRENT JONES WONT BE INTERESTED IN BECOMING OUR GM AND STEVE YOUNG WONT BE OUR HEAD COACH EITHER.

And we were right.

I like the Lynch hire. I am a bit worried about the fact that he has no GM or player personnel experience, but I think that's a positive. I think because of his inexperience, he'll cede a lot of his power to Kyle. The previous regime's GM structure in Harbaugh, Tomsula, and Kelly - the GM was just too powerful.

He did damn good in FA and the draft.

having a GM who knows they need other's input in a VERY positive change.

My hope is the cooperative relationship lasts longer than that between Harbaugh and Baalke. I'll be paying close attention to the personal dynamics between the two. I'll be paying close attention to any rumors or leaks saying Lynch and Shanahan having issues like losing the locker room, or one or the other being rumored to ask for more control. We shall see.

My hope is the same, and it is likely we will have a much better situation. These guys are not going to create the drama of a Harbaugh or make the terse and cryptic remarks of Baalke. They are both bright and seem to be well rounded humans. As great a coach as Harbaugh is, he is also lacking in social skills, and that hurts him long term. For a few years his enthusiasm and energy overwhelms everyone, but then he begins to create angst...whether justified or not I have no idea. It could be that he would be great if given the keys to a team, but he wasn't so...next NFL job?

Yeah, I noticed that about him. But you look at Bellicheat and he doesn't have the greatest personality either. I think, personally, that he cultivates that demeanor to intimidate anybody not on his team. Unfortunately, Jed was not considered to be **on his team** and treated Jed accordingly (I think). And he was right, Jed sided with Baalke. Harbaugh isn't scared by anyone, and he could care less about kissing the ownership's a*s, and you can say that may have hurt him vs Baalke, but if Jed was stronger and more perceptive, he wouldn't give a rats a*s if his behind got kissed as long as his HC won playoffs and superbowls.

Harbaugh's next NFL HC gig, he will have total control of player personnel AND coaching, otherwise why leave Michigan anyway? For him to not have total control is for him to not be in total charge of winning. And he's not going to settle for just being paid a lot of money to lose.

Like him, or hate him, Jed is more important to the team than Harbaugh was, he's the HNIC. If Harbaugh hadn't shown his ass towards Jed, maybe that owner would've sided with Harbaugh instead of that snake Baalke. Harbaugh can be his own worst enemy, we've seen it happen. He's where he belongs now, his shtick goes over in the college atmosphere than it does with grown men.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

I was more or less speaking on hypothetical speculation based upon the write up. In my opinion I think it's too soon for Peters to attract mainstream attention. You still have other personnel guys that have been knocking on the door for the last couple of years plus Dorsey is out there now. I would like to think the league would want to give Peters a little time in his current role and observe the impact he has on the 49ers first before considering him a serious gm candidate.

On a side note good observation on Peters being a Cali guy but I think the main reason Elway let him go was because it was a nice career move for Peters who was stuck behind some other personnel guys in Denver in a bit of a numbers game plus Peters and Elway both have a standing relationship with Lynch. Elway kind of alluded to as much.

I would love to keep Peters for awhile and eventually maybe move Lynch up to more of a presidential role while making Peters more of a gm if things progress well the incoming years, otherwise hometown or not, Peters will start garnering more serious attention at some point. In the end, I would think the opportunity to be a GM would draw him away eventually, if he doesn't get that opportunity here. That is usually the ultimate dream job for all personnel people just as being a head coach is for coaching assistants.

Elway stated that it was a big promotion BUT one of the big things is that's were Peters is from and wanted to go. He's a 9er at heart

Sometimes guys just like where there at...one dude that comes to mind is Nick Caserio and you're right there's a lot of up an coming GMs who has a step up on Peters for a GM spot. I don't see him going anywhere for the time being. It would have to be the ideal spot to get him to leave his 49ers IMO.

Not that I'm disagreeing here with you because I think we're pretty much of the same mindset on this but I think a guy like Caserio will eventually leave. However because of the enormous success within his organization and his perceived hand within that success, he has the ability to pretty much sit and wait for whatever he deems his best opportunity. Pioli went through the same thing for years there before taking the KC job. Patton has been doing the same thing in Minnesota. I was actually shocked that he interviewed with the 49ers tbh.

Back to Peters, I agree that it will be a little while before we seriously have to worry about the potential of losing him. But if the 49ers start churning good drafts and 2-3 years from now they're back in the contendership conversation then, I would start worrying a bit. This is barring aside the last two paragraphs of my previous post.

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Not that I'm disagreeing here with you because I think we're pretty much of the same mindset on this but I think a guy like Caserio will eventually leave. However because of the enormous success within his organization and his perceived hand within that success, he has the ability to pretty much sit and wait for whatever he deems his best opportunity. Pioli went through the same thing for years there before taking the KC job. Patton has been doing the same thing in Minnesota. I was actually shocked that he interviewed with the 49ers tbh.

Back to Peters, I agree that it will be a little while before we seriously have to worry about the potential of losing him. But if the 49ers start churning good drafts and 2-3 years from now they're back in the contendership conversation then, I would start worrying a bit. This is barring aside the last two paragraphs of my previous post.

Yeah there's plenty of guys in the league who just like were they are (get paid well) and can wait for as long as they wish to find other spot if they chose...I'd also throw DeCosta in Baltimore on that list.

Sure you got to worry about that when you're winning, it's a good problem to have....everything I've read on him is how much he's loves SF

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sfgate.com/49ers/amp/Die-hard-fan-in-49ers-front-office-grew-up-in-the-11178557.php

I mean if I'm him (a huge 49er fan) and all my family is in the Bay Area...would I stay as VP of player personnel (and get paid well) or leave to be the GM of some team that's a mess (which is usually what's happening when a GM gets fired). I'd really have to think about that...have to be a perfect situation.

Good thing is we don't have to worry about it for a little while

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Not that I'm disagreeing here with you because I think we're pretty much of the same mindset on this but I think a guy like Caserio will eventually leave. However because of the enormous success within his organization and his perceived hand within that success, he has the ability to pretty much sit and wait for whatever he deems his best opportunity. Pioli went through the same thing for years there before taking the KC job. Patton has been doing the same thing in Minnesota. I was actually shocked that he interviewed with the 49ers tbh.

Back to Peters, I agree that it will be a little while before we seriously have to worry about the potential of losing him. But if the 49ers start churning good drafts and 2-3 years from now they're back in the contendership conversation then, I would start worrying a bit. This is barring aside the last two paragraphs of my previous post.

Yeah there's plenty of guys in the league who just like were they are (get paid well) and can wait for as long as they wish to find other spot if they chose...I'd also throw DeCosta in Baltimore on that list.

Sure you got to worry about that when you're winning, it's a good problem to have....everything I've read on him is how much he's loves SF

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sfgate.com/49ers/amp/Die-hard-fan-in-49ers-front-office-grew-up-in-the-11178557.php

I mean if I'm him (a huge 49er fan) and all my family is in the Bay Area...would I stay as VP of player personnel (and get paid well) or leave to be the GM of some team that's a mess (which is usually what's happening when a GM gets fired). I'd really have to think about that...have to be a perfect situation.

Good thing is we don't have to worry about it for a little while

I'd say this pretty much reinforces a little of what both of us have been saying. As far as Decosta, yeah his situation is unique too. Ozzie is in his 60's now and not getting any younger. There is a growing belief that DeCosta is simply his replacement in waiting. Some people just luck out and are just in the right place at the right time. Must be nice...