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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Armstead would get in the way of the young DT's development. I think Osa is enough to lead the young guys.

You say get in the way I say starting over players not as good.

But it's not like CJ West and Alfred Collins didn't make plays. And it would most likely take snaps away from Gracen Halton. It would be a solid one two punch though with Armstead and Osa. But hey what do I know I didn't really want Greenlaw back and you did and they signed him.

Assuming healthy, I like our DT depth knowing Mykel can slide inside. AA was awesome, but that ship has sailed.
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Originally posted by lamontb:
We need some damn pass rush not another aging player. Hard pass on AA

a BIG NO on A-Weak Arm-Hurt... we've seen that show before.. the biggest play he's ever made in his career was in fact against us when he stripped that ball from our QB...

We shoudn't add SOFT players on our D!!

GO NINERSSSSSS !!!!
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Armstead would get in the way of the young DT's development. I think Osa is enough to lead the young guys.

You say get in the way I say starting over players not as good.

But it's not like CJ West and Alfred Collins didn't make plays. And it would most likely take snaps away from Gracen Halton. It would be a solid one two punch though with Armstead and Osa. But hey what do I know I didn't really want Greenlaw back and you did and they signed him.

I want Greenlaw to retire a niner. I love players that play with an edge like that. I don't hate West or Collin's but their play wasn't spectacular last year if AA can come in and take their spot then that's on them. Assuming he comes for a discount cause of familiarity I would love to have more depth on the Dline.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Armstead would get in the way of the young DT's development. I think Osa is enough to lead the young guys.

You say get in the way I say starting over players not as good.

But it's not like CJ West and Alfred Collins didn't make plays. And it would most likely take snaps away from Gracen Halton. It would be a solid one two punch though with Armstead and Osa. But hey what do I know I didn't really want Greenlaw back and you did and they signed him.

I want Greenlaw to retire a niner. I love players that play with an edge like that. I don't hate West or Collin's but their play wasn't spectacular last year if AA can come in and take their spot then that's on them. Assuming he comes for a discount cause of familiarity I would love to have more depth on the Dline.

I agree they have potential but they haven't shown anything more than backups thus far. They made some plays but gave up a ton too. Hopefully they take a big step forward this camp, That being said Mykel and Osa should be able to hold down the inside with them and Halton in rotation. The thing with Armstead is he can also play DE which I value, he can set the edge in the run game but don't expect a pass rusher especially at this stage in his career
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by lamontb:
We need some damn pass rush not another aging player. Hard pass on AA

a BIG NO on A-Weak Arm-Hurt... we've seen that show before.. the biggest play he's ever made in his career was in fact against us when he stripped that ball from our QB...

We shoudn't add SOFT players on our D!!

GO NINERSSSSSS !!!!

What is soft about him? I know you've always hated him and always say this…you never show examples of him being "soft" imo he's a really damn good defensive lineman that any team should want on their roster (for the right price).
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by lamontb:
We need some damn pass rush not another aging player. Hard pass on AA

a BIG NO on A-Weak Arm-Hurt... we've seen that show before.. the biggest play he's ever made in his career was in fact against us when he stripped that ball from our QB...

We shoudn't add SOFT players on our D!!

GO NINERSSSSSS !!!!

What is soft about him? I know you've always hated him and always say this…you never show examples of him being "soft" imo he's a really damn good defensive lineman that any team should want on their roster (for the right price).

Dude played last year with a busted up and he calls him soft. Some guy behind a keyboard calling a 10+ year NFL vet soft. What a joke.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Armstead would get in the way of the young DT's development. I think Osa is enough to lead the young guys.

You say get in the way I say starting over players not as good.

But it's not like CJ West and Alfred Collins didn't make plays. And it would most likely take snaps away from Gracen Halton. It would be a solid one two punch though with Armstead and Osa. But hey what do I know I didn't really want Greenlaw back and you did and they signed him.

Assuming healthy, I like our DT depth knowing Mykel can slide inside. AA was awesome, but that ship has sailed.

AA kinda makes sense to start the season if Mykel is still not recovered.

Mykel is a big end with a focus on run stuffing and setting the edge.

We dont have an equivalent skill replacement.

DE Kion White can maybe do it...but he had a chance last year and he was not stopping the run at the high level Mykel was.

AA would not be a DT on this defense. AA would play big end and focus on run stuffing and setting the edge. I guarantee an old AA can still do well in this role
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by lamontb:
We need some damn pass rush not another aging player. Hard pass on AA

a BIG NO on A-Weak Arm-Hurt... we've seen that show before.. the biggest play he's ever made in his career was in fact against us when he stripped that ball from our QB...

We shoudn't add SOFT players on our D!!

GO NINERSSSSSS !!!!

Soft...dude plays through a torn meniscus in the playoffs in 2023

But 9moon calls him soft.
Originally posted by genus49:
Soft...dude plays through a torn meniscus in the playoffs in 2023

But 9moon calls him soft.

Not a tough guy like Josh Rosen.
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Originally posted by 49ers81:
Yeah, I'd have to say no to that as well. I'd rather see the younger guys get the reps and playing time. Guys like Vasquez, Halton, Thompson, Eason, West, and Collins represent the future Armstead is the past. If some of the new guys can prove they belong in the NFL, why would you cut one of them to make room for a guy who is much closer to the end of his career than the beginning.

Agree 💯%.

With a crap roster full of rookies and second year players, the 49ers made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs in 2025. With a bit more health (even if they didn't hit on any players in 2026 draft) I think they still have a great chance of going 10-6 this year. We don't need veterans (who are still good but have a limited shelf life) we need to focus on the future and assemble the best young team around Brock so Brock can spend his 26th, 27th, 28th and 29th birthdays gunning for the Super Bowl.

I personally wouldn't do it, but he's still a good run stopper at this point.
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All these "good fit" tweets are from outsiders that don't understand Lynch and the 49ers. Tell me how is Wagner a good fit when they just signed Greenlaw and drafted a LB, not to mention the hype for Larry Worth?
Originally posted by Kolohe:
All these "good fit" tweets are from outsiders that don't understand Lynch and the 49ers. Tell me how is Wagner a good fit when they just signed Greenlaw and drafted a LB, not to mention the hype for Larry Worth?

They also don't know if these players want to play in SF. Would Wagner be a stsarter of backup?
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
All these "good fit" tweets are from outsiders that don't understand Lynch and the 49ers. Tell me how is Wagner a good fit when they just signed Greenlaw and drafted a LB, not to mention the hype for Larry Worth?

They also don't know if these players want to play in SF. Would Wagner be a stsarter of backup?

He wouldn't start over Warner. No reason for him to start over Dre so at best he would be the Sam…where teams would 100% abuse him in coverage at his old age.

id love to have a player like that as depth but it's not realistic that a guy of his caliber would sign with a key rival of his for his whole career pretty much to be a depth piece for cheap.

Not to mention he's not playing special teams so he'd be pushing a young cheap player off the squad with his presence.

Now if he wants to coach…get his ass in here pronto!
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
All these "good fit" tweets are from outsiders that don't understand Lynch and the 49ers. Tell me how is Wagner a good fit when they just signed Greenlaw and drafted a LB, not to mention the hype for Larry Worth?

They also don't know if these players want to play in SF. Would Wagner be a stsarter of backup?

He wouldn't start over Warner. No reason for him to start over Dre so at best he would be the Sam…where teams would 100% abuse him in coverage at his old age.

id love to have a player like that as depth but it's not realistic that a guy of his caliber would sign with a key rival of his for his whole career pretty much to be a depth piece for cheap.

Not to mention he's not playing special teams so he'd be pushing a young cheap player off the squad with his presence.

Now if he wants to coach…get his ass in here pronto!

Yeah these "good fits" make no sense, it's as if they don't look or know who is already on the teams they're saying are the "good fits", makes zero sense to sign Wagner to have him be the 3rd LB, and he wouldn't start over Warner or Dre, so it makes zero sense.
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