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DeForest Buckner DE - 7th overall pick

12 sacks from the interior is a great number, especially when you look at the help he had around him. It's possible he comes out of this year around 15-18. He will finally have legit pass rushers around him forcing the qb up into the pocket and drawing more o line attention. I'd expect him to be mentioned with the most elite DL after this year.
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Originally posted by gold49er2183:
12 sacks from the interior is a great number, especially when you look at the help he had around him. It's possible he comes out of this year around 15-18. He will finally have legit pass rushers around him forcing the qb up into the pocket and drawing more o line attention. I'd expect him to be mentioned with the most elite DL after this year.

WOULD NOT DISAGREE...

12 SACKS SHOULD BE EZ FOR THE FUTURE SUPERSTAR !!

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The Grady Jarrett deal looks like a win for the Niners as it relates to a Buckner extension. All of these deals matter, not just the super elite ones.
Man if we could get buck on this deal, I'd be happy...

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man if we could get buck on this deal, I'd be happy...


You think Bucko and his gang would accept a similar deal?
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man if we could get buck on this deal, I'd be happy...


You think Bucko and his gang would accept a similar deal?

No chance
this fool's madden rating is disrespectful.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man if we could get buck on this deal, I'd be happy...


You think Bucko and his gang would accept a similar deal?

No chance

No chance, DeFo is a better player than Jarrett. Most sacks Jarrett had was 6, DeFo had 12 last year. DeFo will get a deal in the $18M to $20M a year range, he's gonna want what Jarrett got in GTD money, $42.5M fully if that's correct on Jarrett's terms. I still see DeFo signing a 6yr deal averaging $19M a year, with $65M-$70M in GTD money next offseason.
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man if we could get buck on this deal, I'd be happy...


You think Bucko and his gang would accept a similar deal?

No chance

No chance, DeFo is a better player than Jarrett. Most sacks Jarrett had was 6, DeFo had 12 last year. DeFo will get a deal in the $18M to $20M a year range, he's gonna want what Jarrett got in GTD money, $42.5M fully if that's correct on Jarrett's terms. I still see DeFo signing a 6yr deal averaging $19M a year, with $65M-$70M in GTD money next offseason.

that's why I was a bit surprise that NY85 even thought of a chance Bucko would sign such GREAT DEAL.... it just doesn't make any sense for a SUPERSTAR like Bucko to even look at that figure..

right NY??

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Originally posted by pdizo916:
this fool's madden rating is disrespectful.

On paper we're an elite Madden team. But in reality we're a 4 win team so EA is suppressing everyone's ratings.

Just grabbing a few teams for comparison:

# of Players rated 80+
LAR - 18
SFO - 15
DAL - 15
PIT - 14
CLE - 13
SEA - 12
NYJ - 10
ARZ - 10

Then consider that Goodwin is basically an elite WR in Madden because of his speed (in Madden speed kills). If you make Coleman your #3 WR and Breida/Jet the #4 then you're looking at the fastest, best run blocking , best RAC offense in the game (sans the lack of a mobile QB).

Also note that both of our starting corners are good (Sherman 93 ovr, Varrett - 82 ovr) too.

*If Bosa, Kwon, Warner, Ford and/or Thomas ball-out then we'll be an Elite team officially.
[ Edited by All22 on Jul 15, 2019 at 8:43 PM ]

Originally posted by okdkid:
The Grady Jarrett deal looks like a win for the Niners as it relates to a Buckner extension. All of these deals matter, not just the super elite ones.


Very good call!
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Originally posted by All22:
Originally posted by pdizo916:
this fool's madden rating is disrespectful.

On paper we're an elite Madden team. But in reality we're a 4 win team so EA is suppressing everyone's ratings.

Just grabbing a few teams for comparison:

# of Players rated 80+
LAR - 18
SFO - 15
DAL - 15
PIT - 14
CLE - 13
SEA - 12
NYJ - 10
ARZ - 10

Then consider that Goodwin is basically an elite WR in Madden because of his speed (in Madden speed kills). If you make Coleman your #3 WR and Breida/Jet the #4 then you're looking at the fastest, best run blocking , best RAC offense in the game (sans the lack of a mobile QB).

Also note that both of our starting corners are good (Sherman 93 ovr, Varrett - 82 ovr) too.

*If Bosa, Kwon, Warner, Ford and/or Thomas ball-out then we'll be an Elite team officially.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Man if we could get buck on this deal, I'd be happy...


You think Bucko and his gang would accept a similar deal?

No chance

No chance, DeFo is a better player than Jarrett. Most sacks Jarrett had was 6, DeFo had 12 last year. DeFo will get a deal in the $18M to $20M a year range, he's gonna want what Jarrett got in GTD money, $42.5M fully if that's correct on Jarrett's terms. I still see DeFo signing a 6yr deal averaging $19M a year, with $65M-$70M in GTD money next offseason.

Jarrett and Buckner are different players at different positions. Jarrett is very valuable because he's so good against the the run yet also adds to your passrush at the NT spot. There really isn't another player like him while at Buckners spot you have Chris Jones, Autry, Reed, Watt who compare. It's kinda like what we have in our fullback in that, he's probably the only one who can catch 70 balls in a season if you need him to, Jarrett is unique in that way.

It's not apples to apples with them but I do agree Buckner is slightly better overall.
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Jarrett and Buckner are different players at different positions. Jarrett is very valuable because he's so good against the the run yet also adds to your passrush at the NT spot. There really isn't another player like him while at Buckners spot you have Chris Jones, Autry, Reed, Watt who compare. It's kinda like what we have in our fullback in that, he's probably the only one who can catch 70 balls in a season if you need him to, Jarrett is unique in that way.

It's not apples to apples with them but I do agree Buckner is slightly better overall.

I love Defo as much as anyone(see first page of this thread), but I'd have a super difficult time choosing between he and Grady Jarrett.

I'd probably lean Grady Jarrett... He can play nose and 3tech, super stout against the run everywhere and is a tenacious pass rusher. I also have a bias for squatty, explosive interior rushers.
[ Edited by Heroism on Jul 19, 2019 at 1:38 PM ]
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Jarrett and Buckner are different players at different positions. Jarrett is very valuable because he's so good against the the run yet also adds to your passrush at the NT spot. There really isn't another player like him while at Buckners spot you have Chris Jones, Autry, Reed, Watt who compare. It's kinda like what we have in our fullback in that, he's probably the only one who can catch 70 balls in a season if you need him to, Jarrett is unique in that way.

It's not apples to apples with them but I do agree Buckner is slightly better overall.

I love Defo as much as anyone(see first page of this thread), but I'd have a super difficult time choosing between he and Grady Jarrett.

I'd probably lean Grady Jarrett... He can play nose and 3tech, super stout against the run everywhere and is a tenacious pass rusher. I also have a bias for squatty, explosive interior rushers.

I'm the same way.

He also was the reason that the Patriots were behind so much in the super bowl. He was dominating against Tom Brady.
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