DeForest Buckner Traded to the Colts

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SFVNiner:
This argument star vs. superstar is the definition of "splitting hairs."

Let's just say he's bad-A$$ and call it a day .

It's all nonsense lol...if moon can't admit a player that's top 5 at his position isn't a superstar then he better do the same at every other position. Mahomes is the only "superstar" at QB. Zeke is the only "superstar" at RB etc 🥴

Originally posted by 9moon:
Do you really see Mahomes as a Superstar?? - I personally do not.. NOT after ONE great year!!

Do you consider the DT (Chris Jones) from KC Chiefs a Superstar??

AGAIN, being on top 5 at your position does not make one a SUPERSTAR..

It's ONLY a list of 5 players.. NOT necessarily means all 5 are SUPERSTARS..

in fact, can you list your TOP 5 DTs in the NFL today??

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Do you really see Mahomes as a Superstar?? - I personally do not.. NOT after ONE great year!!

Do you consider the DT (Chris Jones) from KC Chiefs a Superstar??

AGAIN, being on top 5 at your position does not make one a SUPERSTAR..

It's ONLY a list of 5 players.. NOT necessarily means all 5 are SUPERSTARS..

in fact, can you list your TOP 5 DTs in the NFL today??

You and I clearly have a different idea of the word "superstar"

top 5 DTs IMO

1. Donald
2. Fletcher Cox
3. Deforest Buckner
4. Chris Jones
5. Grady Jarrett/Short

IMHO when you're top 5 at your position and are getting double digit sacks with zero around you...that does make you a superstar. There's a reason he's gonna get paid $18+M per yr. BECAUSE he's really f**kING good

agree to disagree...per the norm with us

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Do you really see Mahomes as a Superstar?? - I personally do not.. NOT after ONE great year!!

Do you consider the DT (Chris Jones) from KC Chiefs a Superstar??

AGAIN, being on top 5 at your position does not make one a SUPERSTAR..

It's ONLY a list of 5 players.. NOT necessarily means all 5 are SUPERSTARS..

in fact, can you list your TOP 5 DTs in the NFL today??

You and I clearly have a different idea of the word "superstar"

top 5 DTs IMO

1. Donald
2. Fletcher Cox
3. Deforest Buckner
4. Chris Jones
5. Grady Jarrett/Short

IMHO when you're top 5 at your position and are getting double digit sacks with zero around you...that does make you a superstar. There's a reason he's gonna get paid $18+M per yr. BECAUSE he's really f**kING good

agree to disagree...per the norm with us

I was writing the same list I just have Jarrett @4 and Hicks/Jones @ 5.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Do you really see Mahomes as a Superstar?? - I personally do not.. NOT after ONE great year!!

Do you consider the DT (Chris Jones) from KC Chiefs a Superstar??

AGAIN, being on top 5 at your position does not make one a SUPERSTAR..

It's ONLY a list of 5 players.. NOT necessarily means all 5 are SUPERSTARS..

in fact, can you list your TOP 5 DTs in the NFL today??

You and I clearly have a different idea of the word "superstar"

top 5 DTs IMO

1. Donald
2. Fletcher Cox
3. Deforest Buckner
4. Chris Jones
5. Grady Jarrett/Short

IMHO when you're top 5 at your position and are getting double digit sacks with zero around you...that does make you a superstar. There's a reason he's gonna get paid $18+M per yr. BECAUSE he's really f**kING good

agree to disagree...per the norm with us

I was writing the same list I just have Jarrett @4 and Hicks/Jones @ 5.

I forgot about Hicks! also a stud. Yeah Jarrett is really good. I got Jones a little higher though.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Agree with the list, that's no doubt...

but NO way, they're all SUPERSTARS..

.. and I'm 98% sure that you wont give the rest of the players you listed above the money Donald got..

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Agree with the list, that's no doubt...

but NO way, they're all SUPERSTARS..

.. and I'm 98% sure that you wont give the rest of the players you listed above the money Donald got..

Fletcher Cox got a $103 million dollar deal. Jarrett is gonna get $90-$100 million same with Jones and Buck. You're not giving that kind of coin out to just good players.

You're comparing Donald, who's not only the best DT but best defensive player in the NFL. That's not apples to apples. You can be a superstar and not have to be the best defensive player in the league. You do know that there can be more than one superstar

Originally posted by illinois9er:
I love how his biggest issues are with Buckner, our best player on defense, and Staley, one of the top LTs in the league lol

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Agree with the list, that's no doubt...

but NO way, they're all SUPERSTARS..

.. and I'm 98% sure that you wont give the rest of the players you listed above the money Donald got..

Fletcher Cox got a $103 million dollar deal. Jarrett is gonna get $90-$100 million same with Jones and Buck. You're not giving that kind of coin out to just good players.

You're comparing Donald, who's not only the best DT but best defensive player in the NFL. That's not apples to apples. You can be a superstar and not have to be the best defensive player in the league. You do know that there can be more than one superstar

WHY are you basing it on the MONEY that a player was given? That's just the market.. do you know how much we OVER PAID Grappy, and he's not even close to being a STAR just yet..

Wentz will be making more money that Russell " rumpelstiltskin " Wilson , does that make him a SUPERSTAR???

Originally posted by 9moon:
where's NY85??

Still waiting for his response to this??

and I'm 98% sure that you wont give the rest of the players you listed above the money Donald got..

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Agree with the list, that's no doubt...

but NO way, they're all SUPERSTARS..

.. and I'm 98% sure that you wont give the rest of the players you listed above the money Donald got..

Fletcher Cox got a $103 million dollar deal. Jarrett is gonna get $90-$100 million same with Jones and Buck. You're not giving that kind of coin out to just good players.

You're comparing Donald, who's not only the best DT but best defensive player in the NFL. That's not apples to apples. You can be a superstar and not have to be the best defensive player in the league. You do know that there can be more than one superstar

WHY are you basing it on the MONEY that a player was given? That's just the market.. do you know how much we OVER PAID Grappy, and he's not even close to being a STAR just yet..

Wentz will be making more money that Russell " rumpelstiltskin " Wilson , does that make him a SUPERSTAR???

where's NY85??

Still waiting for his response to this??

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Agree with the list, that's no doubt...

but NO way, they're all SUPERSTARS..

.. and I'm 98% sure that you wont give the rest of the players you listed above the money Donald got..

Fletcher Cox got a $103 million dollar deal. Jarrett is gonna get $90-$100 million same with Jones and Buck. You're not giving that kind of coin out to just good players.

You're comparing Donald, who's not only the best DT but best defensive player in the NFL. That's not apples to apples. You can be a superstar and not have to be the best defensive player in the league. You do know that there can be more than one superstar

WHY are you basing it on the MONEY that a player was given? That's just the market.. do you know how much we OVER PAID Grappy, and he's not even close to being a STAR just yet..

Wentz will be making more money that Russell " rumpelstiltskin " Wilson , does that make him a SUPERSTAR???

where's NY85??

Still waiting for his response to this??

Buckner is the second best player in the NFL at his position.

IDGAF about meaningless subjective labels like "star" but what would you call the second best qb in the NFL?