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Originally posted by TTown9ers:
We won 5 games last year and really should have only won 3. This team is wretched awful. Keep dreaming though friend. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Well we won 5 games with the coaches we had and the mass exodus and loss of talent. The hope is that Chip could have done more with that team. Now, some of that has been addressed on paper in the draft and the lone FA signing of Beadles in a scheme that suits him. We filled some of the major holes on DL and OL. So technically we should be better. There are also unknown factors like Rogers, who was highly sought after-even if he did come from the CFL.

The flip side is that the niners have the toughest schedule this year on paper.

However, who knows how the season turns out. Injuries here and there or holdouts to the teams we play can have huge effects. Like Kam last year for the seachickens, they were not the same. Now what about Marshawn how would they do with out him? When Palmer was out the Cardinals were no the same. Look at what happen to the cowboys without Romo. 16 Games is a lot. Breaks here and there are huge. Who is also to say that JT to Chip won't turn out like Singletary to JH. Nobody expected that in JH first year.

So 10 wins is not the same as 12 and is plausible, difficult yes, but not impossible. As far as saying we won 5 but should have won only 3, that can be said of a lot ot games that are close. Even the Patriots and others are like that. Point is there games when the niners won 10 and won the SB, there were games that they could have lost also. That's a part of the game or as they say, that's the way the ball bounces.
Originally posted by Vito_Corleone:
I predict clean sweep for the bay:
Warriors world champs
Giants world champs
49ers world champs!

. . . . .then I woke up


How do you know you woke up? Maybe as you type and read this you are still sleeping....
[ Edited by WildBill on May 13, 2016 at 3:30 PM ]
Originally posted by WildBill:
Originally posted by Vito_Corleone:
I predict clean sweep for the bay:
Warriors world champs
Giants world champs
49ers world champs!

. . . . .then I woke up


How do you know you woke up? Maybe as you type and read this you are still sleeping....
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Originally posted by mojave45:
If we get 10 wins Vegas will be bankrupt.

Hell yea, I hope the books get raped on account of the 49ers

Truth tho, they'll win a lot (if 49ers win 10 games) due to most people betting against us...
Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by mojave45:
If we get 10 wins Vegas will be bankrupt.

Hell yea, I hope the books get raped on account of the 49ers

Truth tho, they'll win a lot (if 49ers win 10 games) due to most people betting against us...

the bets are probably even so vegas will win regardless
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by LVJay:
Originally posted by mojave45:
If we get 10 wins Vegas will be bankrupt.

Hell yea, I hope the books get raped on account of the 49ers

Truth tho, they'll win a lot (if 49ers win 10 games) due to most people betting against us...

the bets are probably even so vegas will win regardless

Not always, they have the rest of the casino to cover their losses
10 wins? 😂😂😂😂
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I'm on board with 10 wins
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Coming into this season with low expectations.10 would be a pleasant surprise, but it isn't a laughable thought.

Players need to step up and make plays and I have a good feeling about Chip being able to make the most out of what we have here.
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Originally posted by pdizo916:
10 wins? 😂😂😂😂

What if tho, lol... those emojis will be tears of joy
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
the bets are probably even so vegas will win regardless

Could be, and they'll also gain from the juice / vigor...


Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Not always, they have the rest of the casino to cover their losses

Truth
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Ok, I said we had a floor of 6 Ws, but I wouldn't comment on # Ws. In response to the posited 10 Ws, I have no idea what we will W. But it will be significantly more than what the HC-less 2015 Niners won. Here is a way that those 10 Ws could be won....

Ws
Rams
Dallas
Bills
Tampa
Saints
Dolphins
Bears
Jets
FAlcons
Rams

That would mean we wouldn't beat PATs, SEA twice, nor Cards. We would beat LA twice with a rook QB, who needs a yr on the bench to become NFL QB worthy. Some of these teams had losing records, some were 8-8 and some had winning records.

That doesn't mean I think we will all the games above. I am just proposing a way it might be done. And could we win one from AZ? Yes. Could we win one from SEA? Wiht the loss of 4 all pros or top flite talent....yes. Unlikely but yes. So there might be another 2 Ws, but more likely Ws to take the place of 2 Ls in the 10 team W column.

I am still down as a minimum 6 Ws. But do I think we could win 10? Yes, and not by stretching the imagination too much. This is just one way it could go down. So 10 Ws isn't all that far fetched. Making fun of the OP on this W/L guess is fine....point is, he very well could be right.

I wasn't the one who posted we'd have 10 Ws and I am on record as seeing 6. One thing NOT said in the above is, if we somehow, should manage to win the 10 above, we definitely are NOT a playoff team, and anything resembling a playoff win is fantasy. What I meant to have added is that if we really went gangbusters and smoked thru everyone's expectations, our reward would be picking once again well after #15 and certainly not #7, say around #20. In other words, if everything fell in place for 10 Ws(and I do NOT believe that will happen), then all we do is cut ourselves out of the draft pick slot we truly were meant to be in.

In other words, you are penalized for ending up higher than predicted, and there is no glory in that. If 10 Ws should happen, only result is we are screwed in 2017 draft. Yes I believe we should play to win, maximal effort. But ending up higher in standings at end of yr just penalizes the team in the upcoming draft. Rather than a record, what I hope we shoot for this yr is to once and for all, find out what is sitting on that bench, and any dead wood should be cut out. I understand Trent carrying IR guys from yr to yr, hoping they will improve with practice and age, but am not if favor of continuing the practice into a second yr. And the Harbaw penchant for playing vets only, with no idea what his pine sitters can do, frankly is foolish and detrimental to the team. In a way it helps set up the massive player losses that occurred at end of 2014. Had he been playing other subs in rotation, the fall off in O and D would not have been anywhere near as precipitous.

What I would really like to see as an end point goal, is to have all members of the squad thoroughly vetted and know what each and every one can/can't do. Also have the entire team on the same page on O and D. No more of this stupidity...."this D is so difficult, it takes TWO yrs to learn." If we finish the 2016 season and someone says that about our O or D, then this will be a lost yr. A reasonable goal this yr would be a) to know exactly what each and every player has to offer, and b) every player is very capable of playing and completely knowing his position. If we were to accomplish those goals, it would be a successful yr. As for the record? Nah, I'd like to see us do better than we are projected, but really am more interested in knowing exactly what we have at yrs end at every position. For a change, it would be nice to go into draft, KNOWING exactly what we have....and exactly what we need.

In summary, if it comes down to winning an extra game or two vs getting a questionable CB or WR or ILB some playing time, I would hope we go with playing time. Not advocating intentionally throwing games away, just favoring knowing exactly what we have on the bench.
  • lazy
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count me in on 10 wins.
Looking at the first half of the schedule, we would be lucky to have 2 wins before the bye. Some good teams to try to get a win over.

6-7 wins maybe at best.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on May 28, 2016 at 10:45 AM ]
Who knows.

One thing that does seem to be the case is that this seems like a hungry group with a lot to prove in Gabbert, Hyde, Torrey, Bethea, Vance, Rogers, Ward, Bowman, Dontae, Reid, Miller, Hodges, Smelter, etc.

Then you throw in the mix of players who will be going into their second years after getting NFL snaps last year for the first time, and the hungry rookies and legit competitions to the mix with fresh coaching eyes and scheme, and you could be looking at a recipe for early success, that if it happens, tends to snowball in a positive way for a young team who doesn't know any better. We see this scenario every single year.

Two wins would surprise me as much as ten wins at this juncture of the rebuild.
[ Edited by NCommand on May 29, 2016 at 6:40 AM ]
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