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Originally posted by dj43:
The secondary will make quantum improvements when we finally get a pass rush. We can't expect an All Pro secondary when we are last in the league in sacks.

Id like a good secondary independent of the pass rush like what Seattle and Rams have.
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Need a zone center?
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by dj43:
The secondary will make quantum improvements when we finally get a pass rush. We can't expect an All Pro secondary when we are last in the league in sacks.

Id like a good secondary independent of the pass rush like what Seattle and Rams have.

Which both benefit from a great pass rush.
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Originally posted by mcwoot:
Cruz will be on the PS after week 1 I imagine

Nah, if he was going to the practice squad, he'd be there now. I think Cruz will get lots of reps at left tackle in practice against Bosa and company, especially during Trent's veteran rest days. I hope that translates to him being much improved in 2027. We shall see.
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I hear you, but I still want an all-pro center who can just maul any mofo up in there.

I'd like that too, but I'd rather have that All-pro be on defense. Again Kyle doesn't need a road grader at the center positon. He'd rather have a pass protector. Jarrett Patterson fits that bill.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I hear you, but I still want an all-pro center who can just maul any mofo up in there.

Been asking for Erik McCoy for 2 years now.

Begging them to address this for years. I am still annoyed they passed on Frazier and JPJ. It is what it is.

Originally posted by Giedi:
I'd like that too, but I'd rather have that All-pro be on defense. Again Kyle doesn't need a road grader at the center positon. He'd rather have a pass protector. Jarrett Patterson fits that bill.

I want both, but imo having an elite center would mask a lot of the issues and allow Kyle to get by more easily with mediocre guards. I also don't get investing 7 figures into Purdy and then not giving him better protection if you can. As for the defense, that's a different topic - they are investing there, but haven't drafted well. With Center they simply have not drafted anyone.
Trade next year's 1st for Colt's Nelson.
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Begging them to address this for years. I am still annoyed they passed on Frazier and JPJ. It is what it is.

I want both, but imo having an elite center would mask a lot of the issues and allow Kyle to get by more easily with mediocre guards. I also don't get investing 7 figures into Purdy and then not giving him better protection if you can. As for the defense, that's a different topic - they are investing there, but haven't drafted well. With Center they simply have not drafted anyone.

I can see a strong center helping more a power/gap scheme than a outside zone blocking team. Having said that, I'm always for more good OLinemen than bad, for sure.

QB is the franchise face and is the most critical, you get that wrong - your head coach is out of a job. Example: Saleh and the Jets. So the money spent on Purdy is money well spent. Where ShanaLynch has spent OLine money is on the blind-side tackle. Thats a no-brainer. The harder decisions, at least in a zone blocking team is the Center and Right Tackle.

This is where the cap limits come into play. You can have 5 all-pro OLinemen, but its going to cost you a ton in cap space. You can't lock up talent like in the old dynasty days. You have to pick and choose and be constantly developing OLine talent because any depth you develop this year will be gone next year. Sad to say.

What i think ShanaLynch is doing right in the draft is throwing more draft capital at the OLine position. I also like how they are generating extra draft capital to do that - by trading down their first round picks.
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Give the colts a 1st rounder for Quentin Nelson.

If there's legit interest from us, then I would do it and sign him to an extension. If we're not going to make any improvements towards the DE or Safety spots, then our best bet to help our team tremendously would to improve the Oline in our weakest spot atm. That being said Kyle n John don't pay guards so it most likely wont happen.
0 SACKS!
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Willis looked solid at LG tonight
Getting closer to Tier 1
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
0 SACKS!

Nice! I saw conner colby play at left guard. Hope he sticks.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

O line isn't the weak link of the team.
Gotta give credit where credit is due…damn good game by the O-line against a good Rams D! Niners' running & passing games were both very effective as a result.
I honestly thought they played pretty well. Better than I expect this offensive line to be. Trent Williams was absolutely dominant against Myles Garrett. Which isn't easy. Puni and Colby played real well. McKivitz played a pretty good game. This offensive line looks pretty good but is a little thin at certain areas. If they can play like this we can be really good. Excellent in both pass and run blocking.
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