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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Should go after Zeitler to play rg/lg If we can afford him.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kevin-zeitler/7032#latestNewsWidget

Center through FA and RT in Draft.

Trent/Zeitler/Myers or Dalman/Puni/ Draft

That should be a solid line for Purdy.

It is pissing me off that last year had like 6 centers considered starting caliber and this year the first guy is a late 3rd early 4th. Make it make sense!
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
It is pissing me off that last year had like 6 centers considered starting caliber and this year the first guy is a late 3rd early 4th. Make it make sense!

It is odd considering how important the center position is in Kyle's scheme seemed we really valued that position at first when we had Alex Mack our OL was doing great then when he retired we went and got Richburg who was considered solid at the time but didn't pan out because of injuries. Since then it seems we've completely ignored trying to get a C
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
It is pissing me off that last year had like 6 centers considered starting caliber and this year the first guy is a late 3rd early 4th. Make it make sense!

I worry that how they'll address it is by throwing a bunch of money they really don't have at Drew Dalman, a center that is a very good run blocker but a below average pass blocker who still has too many miscues with snapping the football for a guy who has been playing the position for years.

What they really needed was a Zach Frazier, a bigger center that holds up consistently as a pass blocker and has enough movement ability to get out and block into the second level. The best center remaining in the draft right now might be a converted tackle like Marcus Mbow.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
It is pissing me off that last year had like 6 centers considered starting caliber and this year the first guy is a late 3rd early 4th. Make it make sense!

I worry that how they'll address it is by throwing a bunch of money they really don't have at Drew Dalman, a center that is a very good run blocker but a below average pass blocker who still has too many miscues with snapping the football for a guy who has been playing the position for years.

What they really needed was a Zach Frazier, a bigger center that holds up consistently as a pass blocker and has enough movement ability to get out and block into the second level. The best center remaining in the draft right now might be a converted tackle like Marcus Mbow.

What free agents do you see as a good scheme fit? Hard to see Kyle trusting a rookie at C
[ Edited by Niners418 on Jan 15, 2025 at 7:17 AM ]
Originally posted by Niners418:
What free agents do you see as a good scheme fit? Hard to see Kyle trusting a rookie at C

Dalman is a very good scheme fit he's just been inconsistent/not so great as a pass blocker.

I think Ryan Kelly of the Colts is a good fit, he's three or four time Pro Bowler that is very experienced, a noted locker room and on field leader but is also going to be 31 and has had some issues with injuries during his career.

Josh Myers of the Packers fits obviously but he hasn't...been great. He was terrific his first year in the NFL and then has been mostly middle to bottom of the pack among NFL centers since.

I would roll the dice with Kelly personally and add a center-in-waiting through the draft to develop.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
It is pissing me off that last year had like 6 centers considered starting caliber and this year the first guy is a late 3rd early 4th. Make it make sense!

I worry that how they'll address it is by throwing a bunch of money they really don't have at Drew Dalman, a center that is a very good run blocker but a below average pass blocker who still has too many miscues with snapping the football for a guy who has been playing the position for years.

What they really needed was a Zach Frazier, a bigger center that holds up consistently as a pass blocker and has enough movement ability to get out and block into the second level. The best center remaining in the draft right now might be a converted tackle like Marcus Mbow.

Frazier and Dalman have the exact same pass blocking grade in PFF, they're literally identical lol.... Dalman is actually rated higher overall, but has around 400 less snaps.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/zach-frazier/123419#latestNewsWidget

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/drew-dalman/52270#latestNewsWidget

Its PFF so take it however you guys want. IMO really any center in FA I feel is a upgrade of Brendel, the question is How much are the 49ers going to pay them if they go FA for center.
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on Jan 15, 2025 at 3:51 PM ]

This is what I'm wanting to address our Center position this off season.

We also need to find a 3rd rounder for Trent Williams type trade lol...
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on Jan 16, 2025 at 10:59 PM ]
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

This is what I'm wanting to address our Center position this off season.

We also need to find a 3rd rounder for Trent Williams type trade lol...
you want a more expensive Brendal ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

This is what I'm wanting to address our Center position this off season.

We also need to find a 3rd rounder for Trent Williams type trade lol...
you want a more expensive Brendal ?

explain how he's a more expensive Brendel, I remember you brought this up in a different thread and I showed some stats but you never responded. You seem to be enshrined with bringing in Josh Myers instead, whom is even rated worst than Brendel though..

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jake-brendel/11117#latestNewsWidget

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/josh-myers/59992#latestNewsWidget

I've already pointed out that hes been trending down every year dating back to his best year which was about 3 years ago... other posters have also mentioned this, but you really want Myers instead for some reason. So bring up some facts and stats that says Josh Myers is better than Dalman and I would agree 100 %

Like literally the only thing Myers wins vs Dalman is that he's played around 500 more snaps, so experience and is 10 lbs heavier lol... but like I said show me how Myers is better than I will completely agree.
[ Edited by DRCHOWDER on Jan 17, 2025 at 2:22 AM ]
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

This is what I'm wanting to address our Center position this off season.

We also need to find a 3rd rounder for Trent Williams type trade lol...
you want a more expensive Brendal ?

explain how he's a more expensive Brendel, I remember you brought this up in a different thread and I showed some stats but you never responded. You seem to be enshrined with bringing in Josh Myers instead, whom is even rated worst than Brendel though..

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jake-brendel/11117#latestNewsWidget

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/josh-myers/59992#latestNewsWidget

I've already pointed out that hes been trending down every year dating back to his best year which was about 3 years ago... other posters have also mentioned this, but you really want Myers instead for some reason. So bring up some facts and stats that says Josh Myers is better than Dalman and I would agree 100 %

Like literally the only thing Myers wins vs Dalman is that he's played around 500 more snaps, so experience and is 10 lbs heavier lol... but like I said show me how Myers is better than I will completely agree.
I guess we should have to go back and watch the actual games. Up until Myer's late injury he's been reliable and had a great game individually against the 2nd best, maybe thee best set of DTs last week in the playoffs. Was posting in the playoff thread in real time about it.

Dalman, sorry I got the B2.0 nick name from someone here. I've only watched one game against the raiders and he and company turnstiled that game bad enough to where Cousins was benched because cousins wasn't fast enough to dodge all the guys coming at him. So the B2.0 stuck in my head when Dalman's name comes up.

I don't have any fancy numbers or ready made clips. I only have my knowledge when I watch actual guys play. I don't trust PFF or any other site to tell me how a player is. Maybe more clips will start coming out when FA gets closer.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

This is what I'm wanting to address our Center position this off season.

We also need to find a 3rd rounder for Trent Williams type trade lol...
you want a more expensive Brendal ?

explain how he's a more expensive Brendel, I remember you brought this up in a different thread and I showed some stats but you never responded. You seem to be enshrined with bringing in Josh Myers instead, whom is even rated worst than Brendel though..

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jake-brendel/11117#latestNewsWidget

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/josh-myers/59992#latestNewsWidget

I've already pointed out that hes been trending down every year dating back to his best year which was about 3 years ago... other posters have also mentioned this, but you really want Myers instead for some reason. So bring up some facts and stats that says Josh Myers is better than Dalman and I would agree 100 %

Like literally the only thing Myers wins vs Dalman is that he's played around 500 more snaps, so experience and is 10 lbs heavier lol... but like I said show me how Myers is better than I will completely agree.
I guess we should have to go back and watch the actual games. Up until Myer's late injury he's been reliable and had a great game individually against the 2nd best, maybe thee best set of DTs last week in the playoffs. Was posting in the playoff thread in real time about it.

Dalman, sorry I got the B2.0 nick name from someone here. I've only watched one game against the raiders and he and company turnstiled that game bad enough to where Cousins was benched because cousins wasn't fast enough to dodge all the guys coming at him. So the B2.0 stuck in my head when Dalman's name comes up.

I don't have any fancy numbers or ready made clips. I only have my knowledge when I watch actual guys play. I don't trust PFF or any other site to tell me how a player is. Maybe more clips will start coming out when FA gets closer.

I see too much reservation about Dalman from multiple posters.

It makes me think we shouldn't spend there and f ourselves more, but invest a couple picks and hope to hit on a rookie.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
It is pissing me off that last year had like 6 centers considered starting caliber and this year the first guy is a late 3rd early 4th. Make it make sense!

I know.........why......Why.........WHY????
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

This is what I'm wanting to address our Center position this off season.

We also need to find a 3rd rounder for Trent Williams type trade lol...
you want a more expensive Brendal ?

explain how he's a more expensive Brendel, I remember you brought this up in a different thread and I showed some stats but you never responded. You seem to be enshrined with bringing in Josh Myers instead, whom is even rated worst than Brendel though..

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jake-brendel/11117#latestNewsWidget

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/josh-myers/59992#latestNewsWidget

I've already pointed out that hes been trending down every year dating back to his best year which was about 3 years ago... other posters have also mentioned this, but you really want Myers instead for some reason. So bring up some facts and stats that says Josh Myers is better than Dalman and I would agree 100 %

Like literally the only thing Myers wins vs Dalman is that he's played around 500 more snaps, so experience and is 10 lbs heavier lol... but like I said show me how Myers is better than I will completely agree.
I guess we should have to go back and watch the actual games. Up until Myer's late injury he's been reliable and had a great game individually against the 2nd best, maybe thee best set of DTs last week in the playoffs. Was posting in the playoff thread in real time about it.

Dalman, sorry I got the B2.0 nick name from someone here. I've only watched one game against the raiders and he and company turnstiled that game bad enough to where Cousins was benched because cousins wasn't fast enough to dodge all the guys coming at him. So the B2.0 stuck in my head when Dalman's name comes up.

I don't have any fancy numbers or ready made clips. I only have my knowledge when I watch actual guys play. I don't trust PFF or any other site to tell me how a player is. Maybe more clips will start coming out when FA gets closer.

Well there's not much more to add here if its just trust me bro lol....I want to be proven wrong here because Myers will most likely be cheaper and if he turns out to be better then that benefits the 49ers and Purdy. Anywho moving on then.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

This is what I'm wanting to address our Center position this off season.

We also need to find a 3rd rounder for Trent Williams type trade lol...
you want a more expensive Brendal ?

explain how he's a more expensive Brendel, I remember you brought this up in a different thread and I showed some stats but you never responded. You seem to be enshrined with bringing in Josh Myers instead, whom is even rated worst than Brendel though..

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jake-brendel/11117#latestNewsWidget

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/josh-myers/59992#latestNewsWidget

I've already pointed out that hes been trending down every year dating back to his best year which was about 3 years ago... other posters have also mentioned this, but you really want Myers instead for some reason. So bring up some facts and stats that says Josh Myers is better than Dalman and I would agree 100 %

Like literally the only thing Myers wins vs Dalman is that he's played around 500 more snaps, so experience and is 10 lbs heavier lol... but like I said show me how Myers is better than I will completely agree.
I guess we should have to go back and watch the actual games. Up until Myer's late injury he's been reliable and had a great game individually against the 2nd best, maybe thee best set of DTs last week in the playoffs. Was posting in the playoff thread in real time about it.

Dalman, sorry I got the B2.0 nick name from someone here. I've only watched one game against the raiders and he and company turnstiled that game bad enough to where Cousins was benched because cousins wasn't fast enough to dodge all the guys coming at him. So the B2.0 stuck in my head when Dalman's name comes up.

I don't have any fancy numbers or ready made clips. I only have my knowledge when I watch actual guys play. I don't trust PFF or any other site to tell me how a player is. Maybe more clips will start coming out when FA gets closer.

Well there's not much more to add here if its just trust me bro lol....I want to be proven wrong here because Myers will most likely be cheaper and if he turns out to be better then that benefits the 49ers and Purdy. Anywho moving on then.
hey i posted in real time of what i saw going on.. and you were there eating popcorn in the same threads lol.. Not going to spend money and time to reshow you games you watched when we probably don't sign these guys

Sat i won't be able to sit and watch the games but sunday i will post a FA watch.. it's up to anyone if they want to watch the guy
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Jan 17, 2025 at 2:41 PM ]
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

This is what I'm wanting to address our Center position this off season.

We also need to find a 3rd rounder for Trent Williams type trade lol...
you want a more expensive Brendal ?

explain how he's a more expensive Brendel, I remember you brought this up in a different thread and I showed some stats but you never responded. You seem to be enshrined with bringing in Josh Myers instead, whom is even rated worst than Brendel though..

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jake-brendel/11117#latestNewsWidget

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/josh-myers/59992#latestNewsWidget

I've already pointed out that hes been trending down every year dating back to his best year which was about 3 years ago... other posters have also mentioned this, but you really want Myers instead for some reason. So bring up some facts and stats that says Josh Myers is better than Dalman and I would agree 100 %

Like literally the only thing Myers wins vs Dalman is that he's played around 500 more snaps, so experience and is 10 lbs heavier lol... but like I said show me how Myers is better than I will completely agree.
I guess we should have to go back and watch the actual games. Up until Myer's late injury he's been reliable and had a great game individually against the 2nd best, maybe thee best set of DTs last week in the playoffs. Was posting in the playoff thread in real time about it.

Dalman, sorry I got the B2.0 nick name from someone here. I've only watched one game against the raiders and he and company turnstiled that game bad enough to where Cousins was benched because cousins wasn't fast enough to dodge all the guys coming at him. So the B2.0 stuck in my head when Dalman's name comes up.

I don't have any fancy numbers or ready made clips. I only have my knowledge when I watch actual guys play. I don't trust PFF or any other site to tell me how a player is. Maybe more clips will start coming out when FA gets closer.

Well there's not much more to add here if its just trust me bro lol....I want to be proven wrong here because Myers will most likely be cheaper and if he turns out to be better then that benefits the 49ers and Purdy. Anywho moving on then.
hey i posted in real time of what i saw going on.. and you were there eating popcorn in the same threads lol.. Not going to spend money and time to reshow you games you watched when we probably don't sign these guys

Sat i won't be able to sit and watch the games but sunday i will post a FA watch.. it's up to anyone if they want to watch the guy

I don't remember if I was here in real time when the Eagles played the Packers lol...I was here for sure the Vikings game... Dalman might be too expensive for us, but there a chance for Myers due to that injury.

Ehh, I don't want to spend too much time watching film... let me see if I can even find any film on either one with youtube search.
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