Originally posted by dlance:
Originally posted by Giedi:
The nice thing about Kyle's offense is that it really isn't a straight drop back kind of offense. It's more of a side to side zone run offense complimented by a bootleg play fake kind of pass offense (in general). With regards to Chris JOnes, I think Kyle got away from the zone run a bit in the 4rth qtr of the super bowl game. If you review the Vikings and Green Bay game, we didn't have any real issues of folks running up the middle and clocking our QB in those two games. Point I'm trying to make is Kyle's offense is more agile kind of offense versus a power/gap based offense. When Jimmy is dropping back to pass, a lot of times it's based off a play fake and I think agility vs strength is what is needed in terms of pass protection for those kinds of plays. I think the OLinemen Kyle has brought in are better matched up with regards to pass offense than the first two seasons under Kyle. As an example, how strong do you have to be to block for a screen pass? Not really, you do have to be athletic *enough* to prevent the DLinemen from getting back on track after they've been wrong footed. Same, I think with Kyle's passing game, Kyle doesn't need the OLinemen to block for 4 seconds, only about 2.5-ish seconds for most of his pass plays.
Again, if you go back to the Chris Jones' knockdown of Jimmy's pass in the fourth QTR, that was a blitz. *A run* or possibly a screen would have been a better play call in that situation. It might have been better for Jimmy to just pull the ball down and run sideways to eat up some time and gain a yard or two instead of losing that 3rd down without eating up any time. Just some thoughts regarding our pass protection issues.
Your correct with Kyle's offense is screen passes/ quick slant and stuff like that. However any time during the year if is was 3rd and 15 the defense knew it was going to be a pass and chances are the interior o line could not stop much of the rush. They where not that good. That's what happen in the 4th qt. It's not all the O line fault. The defense gave up a bunch of point really fast they got behind and the offense had to pass the ball. Last year in that situation the O line could not hold on long enough to get to a second or third read. They need 4 sec and got 2 sec. Maybe if Brunskill starts he can help fix this? Maybe McKivitz plays and is up to the job. I hope they can fix the pass pro!!!! There's going to be in 3rd and 15ish at some point and if they can't slow down the rush they'er right back where they where last year. Which still got them to the supper bowl.
Correct, the defense allowed a bunch of points in the 4th QRT. With respect to 3rd and 15, no matter *what play* is called, the defense is going to pass rush. That's a no brainer. In that case, take a deep shot, gamble on a screen, or stay safe and call a run. The odds of converting 3rd and 15 is low, so why not design an offense that very rarely *gets* into those situations.
Point I'm making is because we have such a great defense, that 3rd down pass knockdown should not have lost us the game if the defense would have held up.
Basically with the kind of defense we have, you don't want to design an offense for 3rd and 15, you want to design an offense that can be a great ball control offense and ideally is also explosive. Drafting for 3rd and 15, and designing an offense for 3rd and 15, and game planning for 3rd and 15 is stupid, in my opinion, with the kind of defense we have.
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