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Is the O-line overrated?
Is the O-line overrated?
Feb 13, 2014 at 12:00 AM
- jays9ers
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I for one think our o-line is a bit overrated.. The pass pro has been suspect for sometime now and the run blocking looks better because Frank Gore has the best vision in the league. I sure would love to see more production from the center spot and better pass pro from the rt spot. I think getting better in the run game will only propel this team to the promise land.
Feb 13, 2014 at 12:15 AM
- BrianGO
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Yes.
Feb 13, 2014 at 12:16 AM
- InglewoodCA9ers
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I actually agree...a bit overrated ONLY as a pass protection unit. While I agree Frank does tend to wear down SLIGHTLY...and I mean slightly towards the end of the season having been over-used by our coaching staff and playing in the toughest and most physical division in football, our O-line didn't EVEN give GORE ANY sort of running lanes or holes for him in the NFCCG. Their D-line got penetration for a good portion of the game, Gore didn't even have a chance. smh
Feb 13, 2014 at 12:22 AM
- Niners99
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Its year by year...
In 2011 it was really good. In 2012 it was the best in the NFL, and in 2013 we fell back to top 10. Iupati battling injuries had something to do with it.
In 2011 it was really good. In 2012 it was the best in the NFL, and in 2013 we fell back to top 10. Iupati battling injuries had something to do with it.
Feb 13, 2014 at 12:26 AM
- jreff22
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Injuries were a problem. Also add in Miller being out and Gore loses a good lead blocker. I think overall the team and fans had an over inflated outlook for the O this year.
Feb 13, 2014 at 12:58 AM
- RishikeshA
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The way the Seahawks manhandled our OL plays a big part in the question. The crowd noise in Seattle gives their defense a jump at the snap. That being said I believe our OL is overrated, everyone believes the hype. They are good not yet great.
Feb 13, 2014 at 1:00 AM
- gold49digger
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Im pretty sure half of the NFL would love our OL. But we have to complain about everything so ok
Feb 13, 2014 at 1:16 AM
- Touchdownboy1980
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Originally posted by gold49digger:
Im pretty sure half of the NFL would love our OL. But we have to complain about everything so ok
No one denies that but half isn't very impressive for a unit not too long ago considered best in the NFL. We are almost certainty losing Lupati so that will decline it even further for atleast a short period of time. We won't have the depth to cover for an injury to another one of our main starters like Staley. That's when small issues turn into game/season deciding problems.
[ Edited by Touchdownboy1980 on Feb 13, 2014 at 1:19 AM ]
Feb 13, 2014 at 1:43 AM
- RonMexico
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its not bad but i dont think its nearly as good as some people say it is
Feb 13, 2014 at 6:19 AM
- dtg_9er
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I question whether it's talent or the scheme/play calling. Goodwin does seem to be susceptible to being driven back by many NTs/DTs and A Davis loses his battle too often for containment. But, when the team is somewhat predictable it hurts the line. It's as if the team say..."We're going to run this ball down your throat and you can't stop us!" Only to find out that this is the NFL...not Stanford.
It was pointed out in another thread that the niners seldom ran out of passing formations or passed out of run formation...that really tips the scale against the line.
It was pointed out in another thread that the niners seldom ran out of passing formations or passed out of run formation...that really tips the scale against the line.
Feb 13, 2014 at 6:22 AM
- Geeked
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
I question whether it's talent or the scheme/play calling. Goodwin does seem to be susceptible to being driven back by many NTs/DTs and A Davis loses his battle too often for containment. But, when the team is somewhat predictable it hurts the line. It's as if the team say..."We're going to run this ball down your throat and you can't stop us!" Only to find out that this is the NFL...not Stanford.
It was pointed out in another thread that the niners seldom ran out of passing formations or passed out of run formation...that really tips the scale against the line.
hit the nail on the head. If you're in the NFL and your answer to beating the defense is execution; you may want to trot your ass back to high school.
Feb 13, 2014 at 6:53 AM
- NCommand
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Hard to tell...scheme and play calling isn't exactly helping these boys out. CK's scrambling ability does though!
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:33 AM ]
Feb 13, 2014 at 7:14 AM
- loxdoggie
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Here's the funny part. The last few years everybody has been saying that we have the best run-blocking OL and that it is the pass-blocking which is merely OK. Especially with Kaep back there, this almost seems to have reversed itself, at least against teams with strong defensive fronts (e.g., Sea). The Sea DL spent alot of time in our offensive backfield on run plays in the NFC Champ game.
Feb 13, 2014 at 7:21 AM
- LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by loxdoggie:
Here's the funny part. The last few years everybody has been saying that we have the best run-blocking OL and that it is the pass-blocking which is merely OK. Especially with Kaep back there, this almost seems to have reversed itself, at least against teams with strong defensive fronts (e.g., Sea). The Sea DL spent alot of time in our offensive backfield on run plays in the NFC Champ game.
It didn't reverse itself. Now we're not as good in run blocking and are still average at pass protection.
Feb 13, 2014 at 7:29 AM
- Geeked
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by loxdoggie:
Here's the funny part. The last few years everybody has been saying that we have the best run-blocking OL and that it is the pass-blocking which is merely OK. Especially with Kaep back there, this almost seems to have reversed itself, at least against teams with strong defensive fronts (e.g., Sea). The Sea DL spent alot of time in our offensive backfield on run plays in the NFC Champ game.
It didn't reverse itself. Now we're not as good in run blocking and are still average at pass protection.
Tie in the facts the 49ers are facing tougher defense, there's a couple years of film, a couple years of tendency, a couple years of wear, and AND, an OC that takes 20 seconds to call the SAME dang play they run EVERY time in that specific down and distance, the line may not appear as effective.