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Is the big hit worth the risk of the flag?
Is the big hit worth the risk of the flag?
Dec 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM
- grizzlyadams
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I say, "yes." I'd rather have Whitner or any other player make a big, legal hit (like Whitner's hit Monday night) and risk the flag because it seems to set the tone. Our biggest strength (and that of SEA & AZ, for that matter) is the big, physical defense that intimidates offenses. I think we should keep being physical. I don't want the head shots or illegal hits, but the big ones like the one from Monday night should continue to be part of our identity. Thoughts?
Dec 26, 2013 at 2:31 PM
- Empire49
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Yes. It gives the other team something to think about. Nobody wants to get blown up, and this is when you see guys start to alligator arm and play scared.
Dec 26, 2013 at 2:31 PM
- lamontb
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It doesn't set a tone. You see how soft Whitner's hit was on Jackson when he scored. I think Whitner would have tried to lay him out again if it weren't for the penalty he already recieved. It's not like ATL layed down after that hit. What they need is for the refs to figure out what a legal big hit is vs an illegal big hit. But I think they are being told to flag everything.
Dec 26, 2013 at 2:35 PM
- 49erfeeeever808
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see Aaron Hernandez in the '12 game.
Dec 26, 2013 at 2:37 PM
- 49erfeeeever808
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next play:
Dec 26, 2013 at 2:40 PM
- jdt84_2
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Originally posted by lamontb:
It doesn't set a tone. You see how soft Whitner's hit was on Jackson when he scored. I think Whitner would have tried to lay him out again if it weren't for the penalty he already recieved. It's not like ATL layed down after that hit. What they need is for the refs to figure out what a legal big hit is vs an illegal big hit. But I think they are being told to flag everything.
i don't think whitner went soft on the TD. it was just an angle issue, i am not sure anyone makes that tackle on steven jackson.
Dec 26, 2013 at 2:52 PM
- 808niner4lyphe
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No!! Wrap up!
Dec 26, 2013 at 2:54 PM
- pdizo916
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Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
No!! Wrap up!
This. I really wish the nfl wouldn't flag big hits but they're going to from here on out-even if the hits are legal. SMH. It's better to just wrap up and use fundamental tackling.
Dec 26, 2013 at 3:11 PM
- SofaKing
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Yes. The key is knowing when to go for the big hit, or the wrap up tackle. Whitner should have tried to wrap up Jackson on the TD run, but he absolutely made the right decision by laying him out on the previous play.
Whitner's hit on Jackson was perfect. Unfortunate that it was called a penalty. He could make the same hit next week and not be penalized. It's completely subjective with each ref crew. No consistency whatsoever.
I'll take my chances and keep telling Whitner to lay people out, because those hits are tone setters and can lead to drops, fumbles, limited YAC, alligator arms..etc.
Whitner's hit on Jackson was perfect. Unfortunate that it was called a penalty. He could make the same hit next week and not be penalized. It's completely subjective with each ref crew. No consistency whatsoever.
I'll take my chances and keep telling Whitner to lay people out, because those hits are tone setters and can lead to drops, fumbles, limited YAC, alligator arms..etc.
[ Edited by SofaKing on Dec 26, 2013 at 3:12 PM ]
Dec 26, 2013 at 3:12 PM
- LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
Yes. The key is knowing when to go for the big hit, or the wrap up tackle. Whitner should have tried to wrap up Jackson on the TD run, but he absolutely made the right play by laying him out on the previous play.
Whitner's hit on Jackson was perfect. Unfortunate that it was called a penalty. He could make the same hit next week and not be penalized. It's completely subjective with each ref crew. No consistency whatsoever.
I'll take my chances and keep telling Whitner to lay people out, because those hits are tone setters and can lead to drops, fumbles, limited YAC, alligator arms..etc.
This. I say take it to them.
Dec 26, 2013 at 3:14 PM
- LasVegasWally
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Depends on the situation.
If it helps the opposition continue a drive or sets them up for a score than NO!
Winning is the Most important thing.
If it helps the opposition continue a drive or sets them up for a score than NO!
Winning is the Most important thing.
Dec 26, 2013 at 3:36 PM
- T-9ers
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Worth it. NFL needs to compromise. Offensive players need something to thing about. Remember that hit by Whitner on Pierre in the playoffs a couple years ago. Come on, after that it was like over, sort of.
Dec 26, 2013 at 3:41 PM
- 16to87
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[ Edited by 16to87 on Dec 26, 2013 at 3:44 PM ]
Dec 26, 2013 at 3:47 PM
- 49erKing
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It's a clear advantage when you can mess with the minds of your opponents. The WeakHawks attribute Kam Chancellor's intimidation tactics (mainly the BIG HIT!) as a big reason for the success of their secondary.
[ Edited by fortyninerglory on Dec 26, 2013 at 3:47 PM ]
Dec 26, 2013 at 3:48 PM
- susweel
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No, everyone should just make half hearted dives at players legs like Eric Reid does.