Originally posted by BrianGO:
It's the "franchise" quarterback thing though, which is different. So its not a matter of how good a franchise quarterback is, it is more a matter of "Who else are you going to play at quarterback?"
For example, let's say you're in the middle of the desert and there are 15 vehicles available for sale and 32 people, (and only one vehicle allowed per person). You have to get out of the desert, so you need a vehicle. Some of the vehicles are super high end Ferrari's and others are motored scooters and everything in between.
ALL of them cost 200 grand. What do you do if you can't get the best ones? Do you just walk? You could die if you walk. So you have no choice but to spend top money on the best available vehicle, even if it is just a motored scooter.
The "worth" of something is only relevant to the demand. If there is no alternative, then you have no choice, but to pay a high price for something in a high demand but unsaturated market.
This is why players like Romo, Rivers, Stafford are making huge money, the teams they are playing for don't really have an alternative. The "franchise" quarterback is what allows their team to be competitive.
Romo only got that deal because he is a fav of Jerry Jones, and they couldn't franchise him, his deal voided after the tag deadline had he not extended his deal before 2014.
Rivers was a better QB at the time he got the contract, which was before Kap became something
Stafford deal is a small deal, it is nowhere near Flacco, Ryan, Rodgers, Romo deals.
I dont care if he(Kap) is viewed as "The Franchise QB", he isn't worth $20M a yr. He hasn't shown it. I hate arguing with people over this. Ozzie Newsome is one of the best GMs, but he was forced to give Flacco 120M. Flacco is NOT a $120M over 6yrs guy. He looks average. Which is what Kap looks like right now.
This isnt like the old CBA where you sign draft picks based on potential. You pay now off of what you have done for me lately. 1 and a half year full of starts doesn't equal 20M a yr. Thats my opinion though. We differ. I have no issue with that. I am more o the side of being cautious. I dont see how we can afford Kap at 20M a yr. Players would need to be shed. And is Kap better than haviing a killer D with Bowman, Willis, Brooks, Justin, or a OL with Davis, hopefully Iupati, Boone soon on a new extension, and Staley, who may want an extension soon.
Rogers is the ONLY player who should be cut, no one else is a cut candidate for me. Some for redoes, with extensions, or a help in a restructure, like Rogers, McDonald, and Vernon did for Bowman. VD, McDonald, Brooks, Willis, Bowman could all take less in the next few years, and get a bigger bonus up front. A restructure doesn't mean less money overall, it means he(whoever) gets an up front bonus, and helps the team gain cap room. A straight pay cut like Mario and Goodwin took are lose money as a whole.
Rogers would likely have to waive his final year after 2014 in a pay cut. He would be like Ginn did in 2011. Took less, and became a FA sooner. Although he did re-sign for 1 more year, so that is what the redo or pay cut is for.
I dont see anyone else taking a pay cut, Brooks is well worth the money, plus he could see a de-escalator for 2014 depended on certain clauses. Same for A.Davis and Bowman. So may not need to ask for a redo.
Now Willis, VD and McDonald would make for great redo/extensions, lower their base salaries, get a higher bonus, as part of a new deal.
[ Edited by AB81Rules on Oct 15, 2013 at 6:12 PM ]