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All this BJD talk is killing me... lets put this to rest for once and for all;

A. The only reason the Seahawks (who were damn near last on the waiver priority) signed him is because he was a 49er! That's the only value he had outside of a mediocre preseason. If we had cut Colt today the Seahawks would have signed him, but the difference is Colt would have a chance of getting signed before Seattle had a chance to claim him off of waivers.

B. Skelton has more to work with than BJD and if he practices good we may be able to cut Colt and bring on another WR or DB. He has a solid frame (6"5 250), and NFL experience IN THIS DIVISION. Outside of that he is another brain in the room who is familiar with the Cards, Seahawks, and Rams, this could help benefit Kap from just watching film and having someone to bounce ideas off of.

On top of all this why having a third string project QB should not matter when you have a stud at QB, because if Kaep goes down all the guys who could truly replace him are already starting elsewhere. And If Daniels ever cracks the starting line up for Seattle then it's good news for us. Because either Wilson is hurt or dead.
[ Edited by 24plus25er on Oct 2, 2013 at 6:35 PM ]
Originally posted by Wisconsin49erfan:
You do realize that our defense, in particular Skuta and Lemonier stepped up last week and looked fantastic, right? The proof is in the pudding, IMO.


We looked good on D against a hapless Rams team. I think our D is good this year. I really do. Better than last year. I think it would be better with more of a roational subbing strategy, and if we still had Haralson. But I guess Haralson is hurt in NO.?... so maybe it's a wash.

The only thing that concerned me against the Rams was Reid. He had a pretty quiet game. I hope he is 100%.
This is what happens when you start building a good team. Players that are ok and fan favorites sometimes get cut or traded. I can tell you there are guys cut every day from winning teams that I have never heard of but on that teams message board people are going nuts questioning the FO. I can beat most fans from other teams had never heard of BJ Daniels and fans in Indy were saying who the hell is Cam Johnson and why did we give up a draft pick for him? I am sure Chiefs fans were confused with the Baldwin trade and wondering who the hell is this Chad Hall dude and Marcus Cooper. In fact I am sure some smart ass poster said nothing more than "Championship". Of all of our cuts and trades the only one that was to me surprising and a little disappointing was Cooper. But it was a numbers game.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Wisconsin49erfan:
You do realize that our defense, in particular Skuta and Lemonier stepped up last week and looked fantastic, right? The proof is in the pudding, IMO.


We looked good on D against a hapless Rams team. I think our D is good this year. I really do. Better than last year. I think it would be better with more of a roational subbing strategy, and if we still had Haralson. But I guess Haralson is hurt in NO.?... so maybe it's a wash.

The only thing that concerned me against the Rams was Reid. He had a pretty quiet game. I hope he is 100%.
He really didn't need to do much. The runs were stuffed at the line and Most passe were short because the pass rush was there quick. Nice rest game for him.
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
He really didn't need to do much. The runs were stuffed at the line and Most passe were short because the pass rush was there quick. Nice rest game for him.


Maybe. I hope so. He wasn't to the ball like his first two games.
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Maybe. I hope so. He wasn't to the ball like his first two games.
he was solid, he made no glaring mistakes. he is fine. after the coaches finally figured out what works for us, i think our team is fine and we just got rid of a scrub who does not fit in with the way our team is going to conduct business . we also signed a more than decent backer to help us out. i know lots of people like to whine and moan about who is no longer on the team but that is not valuable in my opinion. we also got rid of a fullback we never needed in the first place. unless something blows up and i do not think it will, i think we are done making wholesale changes. we just wait for mario to come back, that is a big piece of the pie. in the meantime i have high hopes jon b will fill that number two role.
Originally posted by cciowa:
he was solid, he made no glaring mistakes. he is fine. after the coaches finally figured out what works for us, i think our team is fine and we just got rid of a scrub who does not fit in with the way our team is going to conduct business . we also signed a more than decent backer to help us out. i know lots of people like to whine and moan about who is no longer on the team but that is not valuable in my opinion. we also got rid of a fullback we never needed in the first place. unless something blows up and i do not think it will, i think we are done making wholesale changes. we just wait for mario to come back, that is a big piece of the pie. in the meantime i have high hopes jon b will fill that number two role.


Aren't you mr sunshine today. Like I said, I think these roster moves are children playing checkers in a hurricane.

We need to get a game plan that will work for Kap now that the read option has been blown up.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
People are getting too butt hurt. Daniels was a 3rd stringer, who played well against 3rd stringers, guys either in CFL, looking for work, or on P-Squads.

Skelton isn't an exciting move, but who knows, maybe he takes over for McCoy.

The Cam move was made to give Skuta and Lemonier a chance, he wasn't better than them.

Parys wouldn't of fit under the cap. I have said for many many times, we dont have cap room. His $1.15M salary wouldn't fit, same for Jennings. The cap is flat, and not many can be restructured, due to no leverage. Who would restructure for Parys. He wouldn't be here in 2014, so get a draft pick, who cares if 7th rounder, it's something.

Only guys who could restrcture are Boldin, Gore, Brooks and Whitner, the rest have either minimum salaries, or are not eligible until November like Rogers, and Vernon. But no leverage for those 4. They are all playing great, and are key to success.

Thanks for these comments AB...since I've been following your comments on cap room it has been clear Baalke keeps a balance in mind that has to include starters, back ups, ST specialists, young players, old players and many more factors. They have cut people I like almost every year...but that's necessary in the current cap world that is the NFL.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
We looked good on D against a hapless Rams team. I think our D is good this year. I really do. Better than last year. I think it would be better with more of a roational subbing strategy, and if we still had Haralson. But I guess Haralson is hurt in NO.?... so maybe it's a wash.

The only thing that concerned me against the Rams was Reid. He had a pretty quiet game. I hope he is 100%.

If I'm not mistaken, Ried was MOSTLY playing the deep ball - support over the top. If you'd seen him or heard his name a lot in that situation it would mean that Tavon Austin was destroying us down the field.
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
We looked good on D against a hapless Rams team. I think our D is good this year. I really do. Better than last year. I think it would be better with more of a roational subbing strategy, and if we still had Haralson. But I guess Haralson is hurt in NO.?... so maybe it's a wash.

The only thing that concerned me against the Rams was Reid. He had a pretty quiet game. I hope he is 100%.

Why do you guess that Haralson is hurt? I far as I can ascertain he has played in all four of the Saints games. He started two.

The team seems to be rotating players more on the defensive line.

Justin Smith has played only 77% of the defensive snaps this year; McDonald has played 83.5% percent of the snaps.

Demarcus Dobs has played 24.3% of the defensive snaps and Tony Jerod-Eddie has played 20% of the snaps.

Dorsey has played 43.3% of the defensive snaps since the injury to Ian Williams.
[ Edited by buck on Oct 2, 2013 at 8:07 PM ]

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Originally posted by Ninerman49:
Why does this organization continue to make questionable roster decisions... it seems everyone that is half way decent we are cutting or getting rid of..

Cam Johnson 7th round pick, physical specimen finally shows the upside we took the risk on with the 7th rounder.. wins a game ball... we trade him for another 7th... useless trade...

Lavelle Hawkins.... not a great player, but played well for us in the preseason... we reward him with a cut..

Bj. daniels... for a rookie looked REALLY good.... we cut him for skelton???

I don't know whats going on here, but it seems to me we are not allowed to have decent backups on this team...


No, I can't explain it.

All are very questionable.

I think just go with your common sense, we have all been watching football long enough to know what are good moves and what are bad moves, if you don't agree with it, don't, I don't think we need to question ourselves.

I detest every single one of those moves especially now with BJ claimed by our best friends Seattle Seahawks as I had predicted.

Let's just keep this real - this is simply total BS !!
Originally posted by pdizo916:
cam johnson and haralson haven't done much but we could use these guys now.

How could we have used Cam Johnson and Parys Haralson? Our OLBs filled in nicely last week.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Gray, Cooper, Haralson, risked Morris, now lost Daniels...it's a fair question no matter how much you "trust the FO." And those moves are fine if we have epic players in front of them that force our hand. But Ventrone, Harper and Owen M. and others? I think it's a fair question esp. after the 2012 draft.

Harper = Gray IMHO. So no loss there. I believe Ventrone was a Seely pick and with the emphasis on special teams, I don't mind Seely handpicking a few guys after how deplorable our special teams unit looked last year. I like Haralson, but truth be told, all Haralson would do is impede the development of Corey Lemonier. You know how this staff tends to favor vets, so if we had Haralson and Johnson, we probably never would've saw Lemonier. The only move I truly question is losing Cooper because of potential and his position. Granted we weren't keeping 6 CBs, but knowing that some teams don't have 2 decent ones, I think Harbaugh should've find a way to keep him on the 53-man roster. In terms of Daniels, it hurts, but remember what Harbaugh has done for other QBs, so no worries there.
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Originally posted by Rascal:
No, I can't explain it.

All are very questionable.

I think just go with your common sense, we have all been watching football long enough to know what are good moves and what are bad moves, if you don't agree with it, don't, I don't think we need to question ourselves.

I detest every single one of those moves especially now with BJ claimed by our best friends Seattle Seahawks as I had predicted.

Let's just keep this real - this is simply total BS !!

If all of us have been watching football long enough to know what are good moves and what are bad moves, why does there seem to be so much disagreement about these moves?

I have been watching football for a long time. I do not think that the Daniels's and Hawkins's moves can logically be judged based upon the information that we have or what we have seen.

It is very, very hard to judge a player based solely on what he has done in preseason games.
[ Edited by buck on Oct 2, 2013 at 8:56 PM ]
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Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by Rascal:
No, I can't explain it.

All are very questionable.

I think just go with your common sense, we have all been watching football long enough to know what are good moves and what are bad moves, if you don't agree with it, don't, I don't think we need to question ourselves.

I detest every single one of those moves especially now with BJ claimed by our best friends Seattle Seahawks as I had predicted.

Let's just keep this real - this is simply total BS !!

If all of us have been watching football long enough to know what are good moves and what are bad moves, why does there seem to be so much disagreement about these moves?


First of all, I was replying to a specific post, the poster clearly is not happy with the moves. He is not the only one, I am not happy with the moves, many are not happy with the moves.

If you love the moves, go ahead, noone is stopping you. Is a free world, mate !!
Its obvious that we knew the Seahawks would pick him up. So Harbaugh and co. loaded him with false information to give Carroll. Carroll is then going to think he knows how to stop us in our own house. Then Carroll is not going to expect Harbaugh to contract Sting to come down from the rafters during the game and body slam Carroll. After this, all the Adderal is going to pop out of the Seahawks pockets (out of his socks in Lynch's case). For fear of losing their talent, they dive to the ground to salvage what they can BUT Richard Sherman starts crying and accidentally goes offsides. Kap will know its a free play and throw a bomb to a barely open Kyle Williams for the TD. It's all part of Harbaugh's plan guys.
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