POLL: Is Jim Harbaugh losing control of the team?

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by SportsFan:
https://twitter.com/LaMichaelJames/status/381985990430052352

Don't really like this guy. He complained last year as well.


Or is this a bigger issue then we are thinking?

it's not a big deal he should be playing. Harbaugh would rather active 2 fullbacks one of whom sucks ass. Too many wtf things going on with this team.

Harbonehead trying to run a non-profitable charity

Losing Vernon was a big deal, he would've opened up the entire field. We have no receivers and Boldin is being shut down because of his lack of speed and no other viable option. Kyle Williams is our #2, that shows how bad things are. Moore is the invisible man. The rookies need time. Bring back Hawkins, at least he can make a play. We're counting on two receivers, Crabtree and Manningham coming back from injuries, some say those type of injuries take a year to heal.

No, I don't think he's losing the team, not yet , but we are on the verge of losing the season unless we can fix our passing game. Harbaugh and Baalke have come thru till now, it'll be interesting to see their next move.

I don't blame James... you see your team struggling for 2 weeks, and you are healthy..and helped the team last year during the playoffs.... and have a chip on your shoulder for that fumble in the SuperBowl.

you want to be out there. He probably did try to speak up in house...but I wouldn't surprised if the coaches gave him BS responses.

He helped the team go to the play-offs 2 years in a row. Superbowl last year...I don't think the locker room will fall apart after 2 bad games...no matter how bad.

Good for Gore saying something. This team needs to go back to it's roots.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Frank Gore reportedly had choice words with Harbaugh after the loss as well he should.

That´s what he´s supposed to do. He after all is a Team captain.

Frank is a key veteran figure of this locker room, if what allegedly happened is true, the rest of the guys won't look at this lightly. This is the start of a head coach losing his team.The players are now lost wondering why the heck are they being creamed 2 games in a row. They don't know why and want to look at their coach to lead them out of the slump, but things are only getting from bad to worse.

Originally posted by Rascal:
Frank is a key veteran figure of this locker room, if what allegedly happened is true, the rest of the guys won't look at this lightly. This is the start of a head coach losing his team.The players are now lost wondering why the heck are they being creamed 2 games in a row. They don't know why and want to look at their coach to lead them out of the slump, but things are only getting from bad to worse.

Or it's the start of a good head coach getting his head back on straight and getting back on track. Wasn't big brother John losing his team last year too? These things are not always so absolute

Jim is not losing the team. Jim has lost focus. We need to commit to running the football and playing Bo Schembechler football. It is what got Jim here and he needs to be reminded of this

Originally posted by JeuSF49:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Frank Gore reportedly had choice words with Harbaugh after the loss as well he should.

That´s what he´s supposed to do. He after all is a Team captain.

Not this season. That went to Kap.

Originally posted by swayze:

Originally posted by Rascal:
Frank is a key veteran figure of this locker room, if what allegedly happened is true, the rest of the guys won't look at this lightly. This is the start of a head coach losing his team.The players are now lost wondering why the heck are they being creamed 2 games in a row. They don't know why and want to look at their coach to lead them out of the slump, but things are only getting from bad to worse.

Or it's the start of a good head coach getting his head back on straight and getting back on track. Wasn't big brother John losing his team last year too? These things are not always so absolute

True, that remains to be seen. If Harbaugh can get the team back to winning ways again, all will be forgotten, that is just human nature. However, for whatever reasons, things can change in a heartbeat in the NFL. You can be the Super Bowl Champion one year and all of a sudden you can't even make the playoffs the season after like what happened to the Giants for example. So, we shall see what happens.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by JeuSF49:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Frank Gore reportedly had choice words with Harbaugh after the loss as well he should.

That�s what he�s supposed to do. He after all is a Team captain.

Not this season. That went to Kap.

Lol,

jim isnt losing s**t. get it together people. two bad games. these guys are professionals. gore was on the team with nolan and singletary and it took those teams atleast a couple years of losing to turn on the coaches. with all the injuries right now its understandable to see us get lit up. half our starting defense is playing injured or out and on offense we have zero wide receivers and a boneheaded OC who refuses to change his ways.

Originally posted by monsterzero789:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by rondoman:

Originally posted by barrymartin:

Originally posted by rondoman:
If players are not 100% bought in to the coaching staffs philosophy, that is the beginning of the end most times.

Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves. We lost two games. Yes, there are major problems, but we went deep in the playoffs the last two years. We have one of the best coaching staffs in the league. Everyone knows that. I don't think any of the players are going to start checking out because of two bad games. Let's try to avoid the chicken little syndrome. Yeah it could be a s**tty year, with no playoffs. That doesn't mean the team is sailing off a cliff.

I honestly don't think we have one of the best coaching staffs in the league.

I agree with you and have said so in the forum on a number of occasions. Harbaugh has been on a honeymoon because he was so much better than Singletary/Nolan.

The truth is, he inherited an absolutely loaded team that could have won 10 games minimum with me coaching it. Initially his gimmicks and tricks won some games, however, as always happens, the league studies the new stuff and figures out how to defeat it. Now all those tricks are covered and Harbaugh does not appear to know how to move to the next level. He appears stuck in his own time machine. Until he shows a willingness and ability to adapt, there will be more days like today. Today should never have happened.

and you came to this conclusion 3 games after the super bowl? LOL. We made those playoff runs BECAUSE of our coaching staff. We lost to two playoff caliber teams early on.


jesus christ some of you guys are nuts

Read what I wrote: Harbaugh was a GREAT improvement over Singletary, however that same talent that MS had, SHOULD have won 10 games that last season. That team had that much talent. Harbaugh added confidence and a few wrinkles that were new to the league. Those helped that team get to the record it had.

Now the league has caught on to the tricks and gimmicks and Harbaugh has, to this point, found no answers. Until he finds a way to improve the offense with the players he has now, he will remain a good, not great, coach.

Again, I go back to the example of Andy Reid last Thursday night: When most people gave the Chiefs no chance after the news that TEs Fasano and Kelce were not available, Reid put in some patterns that allowed an unheard of TE to make 5 catches, three of which were critical to the victory over an Eagles team that had been averaging 33 pts/game. THAT is good coaching.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by JeuSF49:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Frank Gore reportedly had choice words with Harbaugh after the loss as well he should.

That´s what he´s supposed to do. He after all is a Team captain.

Not this season. That went to Kap.

that is just window dressing,, we know who the leader and heart and soul of this team really is