"He gets cut" Chad Hall

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
yea that was him, he started because they didn't want to play aj jenkins after he droped that pass vs the packers, IMO stage is too big for both of them.

to a large extent, you're right. but, there are a few ways hall can be effective as a 3rd or 4th wr. as a #2? no way.

Posted this on another thread about Hall.....


Just for comparison sake....
Chad Hall = 5'8"....187lbs.....4.56 forty
Steve Smith = 5'9"....185lbs....4.41 forty
Wes Welker = 5'9".....185lbs....4.61 forty

Technically he is the same size as two of the best WR's over the past several years. Remains to be seen if he can make anything close to the impact Smith and Welker have. Smith does line up on the outside, but Hall is probably better suited in the slot. Lets just throw it out there and say Hall does in fact win the starting slot job and Kyle Williams comes back healthy and wins the #2 on the outside. How will those two match up against bigger CB's like Seattle has? With the new passing rules, is having two cat quick guys like that running around underneath while Kap buys time actually an advantage? Vern can blow the top off and Boldin can still stick that intermediate route. Would a 3 wide set of Boldin, Williams, Hall while Vern runs the seam and Gore handles the backfield be enough to get it done, especially if we have to play catchup in the 2nd half of a game? Or need to drive the length of the field in 2 min? What do you guys think? Brady got it done like that with mini-mites for years.

Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Ballistic:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

I can't believe a 5'8" WR is going to be our go to guy. Can't we find a better group of WR's?.....

yes, because height is everything

not everything, but at some point, it would be nice to have a 6'3"+ guy with great hands and speed, even if we have to trade up in the draft to get him.

Didnt have to trade up buddy, could have had Jefferies or Randle, both 6'2 + with great hands and speed....

2 other 2nd year WR's we passed on because we're so much smarter than everyone else......

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2013/07/giants_receiver_rueben_randle_emerging_as_offensive_weapon_in_training_camp.html
"Second-year wide receiver Rueben Randle has posterized nearly the entire Giants starting secondary over the past two days. He's not just making a statement early in training camp, he's screaming from the mountaintop."

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4684298/jeffery-shines-for-third-straight-day
Second-year wide receiver Alshon Jeffery continued his strong start to camp by catching a pair of long touchdown passes from quarterback Jay Cutler to the delight of the estimated crowd of 9,000 fans. Jeffery's first touchdown reception came during a one-on-one drill when the former second-round pick managed to beat Pro Bowl cornerback Charles Tillman. The second deep completion came in 11-on-11 when Jeffery burned a couple defenders to haul in the pass in the back corner of the end zone. "Alshon has showed the ability to run all the different routes we have given him," Bears head coach Marc Trestman said. "He's a very quiet person. He's a very smart young man with a high football intelligence. He's a guy that learns very quickly. It's been three very good days for him and we just hope he'll continue to progress and stay consistent in his effort and his productivity each day in practice."

it's so easy to be a monday morning GM

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by xcfan:

Originally posted by thl408:
Didn't this guy drop a pass in the ATL playoff game on a 3rd down, thus killing the drive? Nice to see him take advantage of his opportunity this TC.

that's the guy.

FWIW, if you watch that pass carefully, the defender does jump the route and get's his hand on the ball, slightly deflecting it.

the ball still landed right in his chest and it just sliped down his stomach lol

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Ballistic:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I can't believe a 5'8" WR is going to be our go to guy. Can't we find a better group of WR's?.....

yes, because height is everything

not everything, but at some point, it would be nice to have a 6'3"+ guy with great hands and speed, even if we have to trade up in the draft to get him.

Didnt have to trade up buddy, could have had Jefferies or Randle, both 6'2 + with great hands and speed....

2 other 2nd year WR's we passed on because we're so much smarter than everyone else......

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2013/07/giants_receiver_rueben_randle_emerging_as_offensive_weapon_in_training_camp.html
"Second-year wide receiver Rueben Randle has posterized nearly the entire Giants starting secondary over the past two days. He's not just making a statement early in training camp, he's screaming from the mountaintop."

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4684298/jeffery-shines-for-third-straight-day
Second-year wide receiver Alshon Jeffery continued his strong start to camp by catching a pair of long touchdown passes from quarterback Jay Cutler to the delight of the estimated crowd of 9,000 fans. Jeffery's first touchdown reception came during a one-on-one drill when the former second-round pick managed to beat Pro Bowl cornerback Charles Tillman. The second deep completion came in 11-on-11 when Jeffery burned a couple defenders to haul in the pass in the back corner of the end zone. "Alshon has showed the ability to run all the different routes we have given him," Bears head coach Marc Trestman said. "He's a very quiet person. He's a very smart young man with a high football intelligence. He's a guy that learns very quickly. It's been three very good days for him and we just hope he'll continue to progress and stay consistent in his effort and his productivity each day in practice."

it's so easy to be a monday morning GM

And fun too, don't forget about that!!!!

In all honesty though, I wanted Fleener that year, but would have loved either Jefferies or Randle. Was furious with the AJ pick and haven't seen anything to sway me since. Oh well, can't win em all Trenty...

Fleener is having a slow start to his career too...really the skill guys as a whole are not developing as quick, even the polished ones. So I am not panicked that a guy who was considered rough is coming along even slower....need to see some flashes that he is getting it soon though.

does this really need it's own thread? there is a Training Camp thread you know

Why would anyone say that him being 27 is a bad thing? We don't need a player who can still play 5 years down the road when he's 31/32. Hell, in 5 years we may not even have a single receiver that's currently on the team. All that matters is if he can play this year, and if everything works out, next year.

Can we get some videos on this guy.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Sorry. That was rude of me.

Originally posted by Constantine:
Can we get some videos on this guy.

Hopefully this helps.

Originally posted by DVDA:

Originally posted by Constantine:

Can we get some videos on this guy.

Hopefully this helps.

Yup...and cos they all look the same...

(white WRs that is)

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by Ballistic:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

I can't believe a 5'8" WR is going to be our go to guy. Can't we find a better group of WR's?.....

yes, because height is everything

not everything, but at some point, it would be nice to have a 6'3"+ guy with great hands and speed, even if we have to trade up in the draft to get him.

Didnt have to trade up buddy, could have had Jefferies or Randle, both 6'2 + with great hands and speed....

2 other 2nd year WR's we passed on because we're so much smarter than everyone else......

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2013/07/giants_receiver_rueben_randle_emerging_as_offensive_weapon_in_training_camp.html
"Second-year wide receiver Rueben Randle has posterized nearly the entire Giants starting secondary over the past two days. He's not just making a statement early in training camp, he's screaming from the mountaintop."

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4684298/jeffery-shines-for-third-straight-day
Second-year wide receiver Alshon Jeffery continued his strong start to camp by catching a pair of long touchdown passes from quarterback Jay Cutler to the delight of the estimated crowd of 9,000 fans. Jeffery's first touchdown reception came during a one-on-one drill when the former second-round pick managed to beat Pro Bowl cornerback Charles Tillman. The second deep completion came in 11-on-11 when Jeffery burned a couple defenders to haul in the pass in the back corner of the end zone. "Alshon has showed the ability to run all the different routes we have given him," Bears head coach Marc Trestman said. "He's a very quiet person. He's a very smart young man with a high football intelligence. He's a guy that learns very quickly. It's been three very good days for him and we just hope he'll continue to progress and stay consistent in his effort and his productivity each day in practice."

it's so easy to be a monday morning GM

Actually some of us were high on those guys before, during, and after that draft. My rankings were:

Randle
Sanu
Hill
Jeffery

Frankly, I just don't think WR is a position our front office scouts well. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. And their weakness is scouting WRs. But don't act like Randle and Jeffery weren't widely viewed as the top guys I that draft because they were. 9ers went against the grain, which does pay off sometimes, but this time it cost them.

And the worst part is they blew what could have been an easy pick at a time when we really needed that pick to work out. The Chad Halls of the world keep getting playing time for us because the rest of our WR group is not good and not deep.

Why cant the 49ers catch a break at wide reciever?