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49ERS have never had a 1,000 yard TE
Jun 14, 2013 at 4:50 PM
- Raul98
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After looking it up the 49ers have never had a 1.000 yard TE in franchise history. Interesting fact, would love Vernon Davis to be the first one, Maybe this season that streak can end.
Jun 14, 2013 at 4:53 PM
- JerryRice1848
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Jessica Simpson's husband had a 1,500 yard season with us
Jun 14, 2013 at 4:57 PM
- jones49
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Originally posted by JerryRice1848:
Jessica Simpson's husband had a 1,500 yard season with us
No he didn't. It was like 950 yards.
Jun 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM
- GNielsen
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In 2009, Davis was 965 yards and 13 td's. That's pretty darn close and Kaepernick seems to be getting better at throwing him the long ball. He can do it this season.
Jun 14, 2013 at 5:42 PM
- Raul98
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Eric Johnson's best season with the Niners was 82 catches for 825 yards and 2 TD's
Jun 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM
- Dr_Bill_Walsh
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Yay for midget 3 ft TE's!!!!
Jun 14, 2013 at 7:24 PM
- Young2Rice
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
In 2009, Davis was 965 yards and 13 td's. That's pretty darn close and Kaepernick seems to be getting better at throwing him the long ball. He can do it this season.
Yup with Crabs out, look for VD to be the go to guy for big plays.
Boldin will be the go to for third down i suspect.
Hopefully Jenkins continues his off season success and Patton plays decent.
Jun 14, 2013 at 8:01 PM
- mebemused
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While I hope that Vernon gets more throws this year, I think Vance will be better as a receiver than Delanie. The result will be that Vernon and Vance together will have more than a 1000 yds. If Kap distributes to both of his TEs, our offense will be much more dynamic, hence more difficult to defend against.
As a bench mark for V&V, consider the numbers put up by Ron Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez in 2011:
• 169 receptions
• 2,237 receiving yards
From ESPN: http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7477833/new-england-patriots-rob-gronkowski-aaron-hernandez-making-tight-end-history
Given that we use the 2 TE set about 50% of the time and the Pats more often; combined with Tom Brady having more Hall of Fame seasons under his belt than Kap, if V&V were half as good, they would combine for 1100+ yds in 2013.
Go V&V!
As a bench mark for V&V, consider the numbers put up by Ron Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez in 2011:
• 169 receptions
• 2,237 receiving yards
From ESPN: http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7477833/new-england-patriots-rob-gronkowski-aaron-hernandez-making-tight-end-history
Needless to say, Tom Brady has found a special connection with this young tight end combo. Consider that he has a 134.2 passer rating when targeting one of the two. But it's not just what happens when he throws to them. Quite simply, Brady is a different quarterback with the two of them on the field. When both Gronkowski and Hernandez are on the field, Brady had 31 touchdowns and four interceptions. Otherwise, he threw eight touchdowns and eight interceptions.
When Both on the Field:
....................Hernandez ...Gronkowski
Targets:............ 104 ..............87
Receptions: .......75 ..............64
Rec yards: ........834 ...........880
TD receptions: .....7 ..............13
Of the two, Hernandez is actually the primary target when both are on the field. In those circumstances, he was targeted 104 times for 75 receptions. Gronkowski had 87 targets and 64 receptions when Hernandez was on the field. The difference, of course, is that Gronkowski saw many more snaps as the lone tight end. Hernandez acts as much more of a wild card in the offense.
As John McTigue noted in the Stats & Info Blog, Hernandez lined up as a wide receiver for 505 snaps compared to just 255 snaps as a tight end on the line. There were even 61 snaps where he lined up at running back.Of the two, Gronkowski is far more likely to stay in and pass-block. Hernandez was a pass-blocker on just 2.2 percent of the passing plays for which he was on the field. Compare that to 11.5 percent for Gronkowski. Indeed, Hernandez was a pass-blocker on only 11 plays in 2011. That's the same number as Kevin Faulk. The only tight end who pass-blocks less often is San Diego's Antonio Gates.
Given that we use the 2 TE set about 50% of the time and the Pats more often; combined with Tom Brady having more Hall of Fame seasons under his belt than Kap, if V&V were half as good, they would combine for 1100+ yds in 2013.
Go V&V!
[ Edited by mebemused on Jun 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM ]
Jun 14, 2013 at 8:02 PM
- NinerBuff
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This is really loaded statement. There really can't be too many 1000 yd receiving seasons period by TEs.
Maybe: Kellen Winslow Sr., Antonio Gates, Jason Witten, Gronk, Gonzalez, and Graham. All future HoFers
Maybe: Kellen Winslow Sr., Antonio Gates, Jason Witten, Gronk, Gonzalez, and Graham. All future HoFers
Jun 14, 2013 at 8:50 PM
- GNielsen
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If anyone can do it, it's Vernon Davis. Again, just a few years ago he got to 965 yards and 13 TD's. That's pretty darn close.
Jun 14, 2013 at 8:56 PM
- 49erRider
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:This is really loaded statement. There really can't be too many 1000 yd receiving seasons period by TEs.
Maybe: Kellen Winslow Sr., Antonio Gates, Jason Witten, Gronk, Gonzalez, and Graham. All future HoFers
Dallas Clark in 2009.
Jun 14, 2013 at 9:01 PM
- GNielsen
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
This is really loaded statement. There really can't be too many 1000 yd receiving seasons period by TEs.
Maybe: Kellen Winslow Sr., Antonio Gates, Jason Witten, Gronk, Gonzalez, and Graham. All future HoFers
I get the other guys, but isn't it a little early to put Gronk and Graham in the Hall?
Jun 14, 2013 at 10:42 PM
- niner4life21
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by GNielsen:
In 2009, Davis was 965 yards and 13 td's. That's pretty darn close and Kaepernick seems to be getting better at throwing him the long ball. He can do it this season.
Yup with Crabs out, look for VD to be the go to guy for big plays.
Boldin will be the go to for third down i suspect.
Hopefully Jenkins continues his off season success and Patton plays decent.
Don't count out Ham and Williams.
I'm counting on these two to show up big as the season rolls along...
Jun 15, 2013 at 3:49 AM
- 49ersHeroine
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Well we will this season with VD!!!
Jun 15, 2013 at 5:37 AM
- 49AllTheTime
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Stop being homers , no way any 9er TE will break a G