Originally posted by JimDrinkAMiller:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by JimDrinkAMiller:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by JimDrinkAMiller:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by JimDrinkAMiller:
What exactly is gore immune to? Saying he isn't a top 10 receiving back? Frank Gore is the best runningback we've ever had but father time is catching up and I believe hunter and james are more valuable as receivers than gore. Not running the ball or blocking, Gore is far superior there IMO.
What makes you think "father time" is catching up to Gore when he just put up 1214 yards (2nd most in his career), a 4.7 ypc (highest since 2009), 8 TDs, and 28 receptions?
Oh and he also had 319 yds/5.1 ypc/4 TD in the playoffs.
And you still have absolutely zero proof to back your claim about his pass catching (except your opinion).
Case closed.
Umm father time is catching up to him because he is getting older, not younger. Like I said he drops too many passes, I don't need to look at the stats when I watch every 49er game. But if you do this year and last he saw a major dip in production compared to previous years right? His drop percentage was 19.35 last year and 11 this year right? Or am I just making this information that you guys supplied me with up?
30 is the magic number for runningbacks according to history but I don't think it will slow down frank from running just receiving.
When you use the phrase, "father time is catching up" to a player, it means they're slowing down because of age. Not because they are simply getting older. Would you say "father time" is catching up to Tom Brady? How about Lebron James? Uhhh no. Of course they're getting older. If English is your first language, there should be no excuse for not knowing how to use that phrase (English is my 2nd language, btw).
I watch every 9er game too. Frank Gore is not a featured pass catcher in the 49er offense under Roman but that doesn't mean he's regressed in that area. Like posted earlier, he had FOUR drops last year for a drop rate of 11%...right on par with other RBs in the league.
You're on an island here and you have nothing to back up this baseless claim. I'm done arguing this frivolous point as well. Anyone who has watched the 49ers knows how much of a weapon he is in the passing game when utilized.
Frank had 10 drops in 2 years and a 19.35 % drop rate is evidence that his hands aren't up to par with the rest of the backs. 11 % is also below average not on par. It's not my fault that's what you got out of me saying father time is catching up to frank gore. He's a year older and players are getting faster and more athletic. Not only that but frank has been our workhorse for quite some time now and has a bunch of wear and tear. Brady and Lebron James are completely different because history shows qbs can play for a long time in this league and basketball players have longer careers as well. Rbs are comparable to centers because their knees usually get bad as they get older. RB's for the most part don't have productive career's after age 30. Now I never said frank was going to show a huge regression running the ball so don't misquote me. I said he has already seen a drop in productive as a receiving back. Frank will still be our main back and will still play out of the shotgun because of his tremendous blocking, but he won't be our "featured" receiving back because IMO we have 2 guys better at it than he is. This is assuming that kendall hunter comes back healthy which your right might not be the case. Even if he doesn't LMJ will be featured more as a receiving back than gore will IMO.
Anaylists say father time is catching up to players like Tony G all the time. But does that mean they're saying he is seeing a huge drop in his production? No. So I don't know what your talking about.
1. This offense doesnt "feature" backs in the passing game.
2. LMJ hasnt proven to be a better receiving back than anyone. He has never been a receiving back. Hell, in college he was mostly a between the tackles runner. Until he proves otherwise, he is not a receiving back.
Have you seen the 13-14 version of the 49ers yet? No, so how are you already going to assume they won't feature a runningback in the passing game? Yes james ran well between the tackles in college but that is college. You have to be more creative in the nfl to get these smaller guys involved. James works well in space and took a lot of handoffs from the shotgun formation in college as well. Typically we run more I formations and 2 tight end sets than other teams do and James doesn't flourish as well in those sets. Usually James is lined up in our shotgun and pistol formations. This spreads out the defense and allows james to work better in space which is where he flourishes IMO. Receiving backs are usually the faster more agile backs that work well in space. Charles, CJ2K, MCf*gget, and Spiller are good examples. Not saying this is always the case but IMO james will flourish more in those situations than gore will.
Your basing all of your theories and projections on pure forsight into what yout think next years team might look like . I am basing my opinions on what the history of this team under harbaugh has been, and the history of the players themselves. I really dont think you understand LMJ and his running style. You want him to be, and you describe him as though he is sproles. He is nothing like that. He is an illusive between the tackles RB, that can hit the edge, but really isaint as effective at that as you make him out to be. Hunter was much more effective on the edge. Also, like i have said several times LMJ has never been a receiving target. Never. Just because you think he fits a certain mold will not change that.
Like i said, just because Frank Gore has not been used as a receiving back doesnt mean he cant do it. That is a product of the offense and not Gore. Similar to Stephen Jackson, who is a great receiving RB, but simple wasnt used in that capacity alot of the time.
Again, your whole opinion on the matter is flawed. LMJ and Hunter will get their attempts, but non of them will be because Gore is incapable.