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Do the 49ers have the making of a 16-0 team next year?
Feb 6, 2013 at 11:10 AM
- crabman82
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this thread will be bumped after we lose one of our first 3 games next season
Feb 6, 2013 at 11:14 AM
- PRIMETIME21
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need to resign our guys and get a cb then we will see, atleast 12 wins
Feb 6, 2013 at 11:16 AM
- susweel
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lol no
Feb 6, 2013 at 11:18 AM
- real9erfan
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Originally posted by crabman82:
this thread will be bumped after we lose one of our first 3 games next season
How about we bump it every week until we get our first loss.
Feb 6, 2013 at 11:21 AM
- real9erfan
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Originally posted by susweel:
lol no
I know it's all guessing right now, but what do you think is a reasonable record to expect?
Feb 6, 2013 at 11:23 AM
- LaMattsBlue
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Originally posted by Beezy33:
If we don't upgrade the secondary and pass rush, and without knowing any free agent signings, health, etc., I'm going to say a similar record awaits us at 11-5. Our talent alone will win 8-9 games, so it'll be a matter of the big road games like in 2012 and focus on beating the "not so good teams" (Vikes? Rams?) Can we go 16-0? Yes, but not likely, nor would I want to do that if we're going to make another SB run. I think all our opponents' defenses will look at the Pistol offense and be much better prepared for it, thus, we'll need a very good and healthy WR/TE core to make Kaep more of a pocket passer, who can scramble. Will there be designed runs for Kaep? Of course, but I really hope Jim/GRo don't make it the base offense. To be honest, I am getting tired of the constant shifts at the line. We have to be way more disciplined in 2013 with clock management. We took way too many TOs away from ourselves and false starts, illegal formations/shifts.
I think we're going to see a lot more teams passing on us with more success in 2013. I know that's pessimistic, but the last 6 games of our season we got exposed BAD. If Kaep wasn't in to create that many points to offset the defensive deficiencies, there's no way we ge to the SB.
Our division is going to be a battle and I could see the Seahawks overtaking us for the division crown if Wilson keeps playing at his 2012 level.
Early predictions by opponent:
Home
ATL - W
GB - L
HOU - W
IND - W
CAR - W
AZ - W
STL - W
SEA - L
Away
NO - L
TB - W
JAX - W
TEN - W
WAS - W
AZ - W
STL - L
SEA - L
Going back to NO is going to be really hard on this team. Not because the Saints are a difficult opponent. Just mentally, going back to that stadium after this past Sunday.
Feb 6, 2013 at 11:24 AM
- Joecool
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I wish we were playing BAL week 1.
Feb 6, 2013 at 11:53 AM
- mjboot
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Need a wr. Db and DL. Sign one FA . Use the draft and trade up to get a player that falls.
Feb 6, 2013 at 11:59 AM
- jreff22
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no
but we are a 10+ win team
but we are a 10+ win team
Feb 6, 2013 at 12:06 PM
- bpg4980
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Not a chance. I don't mean to be a downer, but doesn't everyone understand what losing a SB does to a team mentally? It's motivating to lose any other game, as long as it's not the one you dreamed about winning since you were a child. Coming up a few yards short in the biggest moment of your life is not something you just "come back stronger from". Dying inside is not a good thing! Ask any player who's lost a SB and they'll tell you it's not fuel for anything other than depression and regret. The players hearts were broken in the NFCCG last year, but they were stomped on this year.
It's been over 40 years since a team that has lost the SB has come back and won it the next year. Realistically, when we are faced with adversity next year (and we will be) the seeds of doubt are more likely to crawl into our players minds than this year. It's undeniable human nature and that's why it's been so long since a SB loser has overcome the albatross of losing the big one. This isn't basketball or baseball where there are far less injuries and best of 7 series with breaks to heal emotional wounds. Football is different. Even as talented as we are, mindset is very important, and it will be a historical anomaly if our guys are mentally tough enough to block all of this out. Like all of you, I'm hoping I'm wrong.
It's been over 40 years since a team that has lost the SB has come back and won it the next year. Realistically, when we are faced with adversity next year (and we will be) the seeds of doubt are more likely to crawl into our players minds than this year. It's undeniable human nature and that's why it's been so long since a SB loser has overcome the albatross of losing the big one. This isn't basketball or baseball where there are far less injuries and best of 7 series with breaks to heal emotional wounds. Football is different. Even as talented as we are, mindset is very important, and it will be a historical anomaly if our guys are mentally tough enough to block all of this out. Like all of you, I'm hoping I'm wrong.
Feb 6, 2013 at 12:06 PM
- Candlestick_Monsta
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Originally posted by SportsFan:
Going back to NO is going to be really hard on this team. Not because the Saints are a difficult opponent. Just mentally, going back to that stadium after this past Sunday.
Tell me about it! That's my initial thoughts in returning to the Superdome. Hopefully by then they can play through that & do their best to ignore that past for that day against NO.
Feb 6, 2013 at 12:12 PM
- NeeJ49er
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We could definitely see 13-3 again next season
Feb 6, 2013 at 12:37 PM
- crabman82
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Originally posted by bpg4980:
Not a chance. I don't mean to be a downer, but doesn't everyone understand what losing a SB does to a team mentally? It's motivating to lose any other game, as long as it's not the one you dreamed about winning since you were a child. Coming up a few yards short in the biggest moment of your life is not something you just "come back stronger from". Dying inside is not a good thing! Ask any player who's lost a SB and they'll tell you it's not fuel for anything other than depression and regret. The players hearts were broken in the NFCCG last year, but they were stomped on this year.
It's been over 40 years since a team that has lost the SB has come back and won it the next year. Realistically, when we are faced with adversity next year (and we will be) the seeds of doubt are more likely to crawl into our players minds than this year. It's undeniable human nature and that's why it's been so long since a SB loser has overcome the albatross of losing the big one. This isn't basketball or baseball where there are far less injuries and best of 7 series with breaks to heal emotional wounds. Football is different. Even as talented as we are, mindset is very important, and it will be a historical anomaly if our guys are mentally tough enough to block all of this out. Like all of you, I'm hoping I'm wrong.
look no further than the tennessee titans who came up a yard or two shy of the sb. they had a great season the next year, i believe 13-3, in terms of yards allowed per game, they were better in 2000 than the ravens. they came back and fought super hard, but yet they didnt end up in the sb. so many variables to count on being back
Feb 6, 2013 at 12:40 PM
- real9erfan
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Originally posted by bpg4980:
Not a chance. I don't mean to be a downer, but doesn't everyone understand what losing a SB does to a team mentally? It's motivating to lose any other game, as long as it's not the one you dreamed about winning since you were a child. Coming up a few yards short in the biggest moment of your life is not something you just "come back stronger from". Dying inside is not a good thing! Ask any player who's lost a SB and they'll tell you it's not fuel for anything other than depression and regret. The players hearts were broken in the NFCCG last year, but they were stomped on this year.
It's been over 40 years since a team that has lost the SB has come back and won it the next year. Realistically, when we are faced with adversity next year (and we will be) the seeds of doubt are more likely to crawl into our players minds than this year. It's undeniable human nature and that's why it's been so long since a SB loser has overcome the albatross of losing the big one. This isn't basketball or baseball where there are far less injuries and best of 7 series with breaks to heal emotional wounds. Football is different. Even as talented as we are, mindset is very important, and it will be a historical anomaly if our guys are mentally tough enough to block all of this out. Like all of you, I'm hoping I'm wrong.
I think there are a lot of other factors that have resulted in teams not winning a Super Bowl after winning one. It's not because players are not motivated the next year. You look at the Buffalo Bills in the 1990's and they went to the Super Bowl 4 years in a row. True they didn't win it, but that's more due to the fact that for some reason the NFC teams going to the Super Bowl had superior talent year in year out. Obviously they were motivated enough to return not once, not twice, but three times. This year the Patriots were one game away from returning to the Super Bowl after losing last year. I don't think they failed to make it because the players had doubts creep in their heads. It's more due to the fact that they simply did not play well against Baltimore and were missing a key player due to injury. I don't see why the 49ers wouldn't have the motivation to return to the Super Bowl. I think they definitely will be determined to go back to the big game and win it. They will still have a major chip on their shoulders for failing to close the deal the year before.
Feb 6, 2013 at 12:42 PM
- real9erfan
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Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by bpg4980:
Not a chance. I don't mean to be a downer, but doesn't everyone understand what losing a SB does to a team mentally? It's motivating to lose any other game, as long as it's not the one you dreamed about winning since you were a child. Coming up a few yards short in the biggest moment of your life is not something you just "come back stronger from". Dying inside is not a good thing! Ask any player who's lost a SB and they'll tell you it's not fuel for anything other than depression and regret. The players hearts were broken in the NFCCG last year, but they were stomped on this year.
It's been over 40 years since a team that has lost the SB has come back and won it the next year. Realistically, when we are faced with adversity next year (and we will be) the seeds of doubt are more likely to crawl into our players minds than this year. It's undeniable human nature and that's why it's been so long since a SB loser has overcome the albatross of losing the big one. This isn't basketball or baseball where there are far less injuries and best of 7 series with breaks to heal emotional wounds. Football is different. Even as talented as we are, mindset is very important, and it will be a historical anomaly if our guys are mentally tough enough to block all of this out. Like all of you, I'm hoping I'm wrong.
look no further than the tennessee titans who came up a yard or two shy of the sb. they had a great season the next year, i believe 13-3, in terms of yards allowed per game, they were better in 2000 than the ravens. they came back and fought super hard, but yet they didnt end up in the sb. so many variables to count on being back
Yes there are a lot of variables, namely other teams getting better, sometimes losing players in the offseason, sometimes suffering key injuries, etc. But it's never because they are mentally scarred and not motivated enough.