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NFC Championship Game: Thoughts after rewatching the game...

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Blitzing is a bad idea vs Kaep.

Teams are terrified that if they blitz he'll escape and gash them with his legs. Moreover teams pass rush is greatly slowed because they are trying to corral him so he can't break loose.

Not to mention if we come out with harbaughs pistol offense 2 te 2 wr 1 rb 5 oline n kaep the max they can risk sending is six which still favors us due to vernons speed crabtrees footwork in 1-1 matchups. I mean they could get really daring and send 7 but its only gunna burn them to leave someone open.
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Is this game replaying tonight at 5 on NFLN? It says NFL Playoff - Teams to be announced.. on my guide.
Originally posted by Muggins:
Is this game replaying tonight at 5 on NFLN? It says NFL Playoff - Teams to be announced.. on my guide.

Its the 49ers vs the Failcons
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Muggins:
Is this game replaying tonight at 5 on NFLN? It says NFL Playoff - Teams to be announced.. on my guide.

Its the 49ers vs the Failcons

Nice. Thx.
Originally posted by Muggins:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Muggins:
Is this game replaying tonight at 5 on NFLN? It says NFL Playoff - Teams to be announced.. on my guide.

Its the 49ers vs the Failcons

Nice. Thx.

yesterday it had our game as the Replay game..(have directTv)
Anyone see Frank Gore yelling at Harbaugh do give him the ball? I loved it, I was screaming the same thing.

I thought Frank Gore was so key in that game.
[ Edited by SunDevilNiner79 on Jan 22, 2013 at 4:39 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
was sooooo scared goldson was gonna get hit with a flag for a late hit on that last series to the falcons...looked like the whistle had already been blown and the receiver had been brought down (the 2nd & 9 play where ryan hurt his shoulder but completed a pass to his back #44)

so lucky no yellow was thrown

This too...dude doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes. This is the 2nd game in a row he played very poorly and I'm blown away the refs didn't call a very late hit on him again. He scares me...trailing all day long, late and blown coverages. This is NOT a time to be regressing.

Yeah Goldson got lucky that wasn't flagged.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
First off...sorry for the delay in this post. I was out of town and have only just now had a chance to rewatch and post.

1) Kaepernick: OK...Since I've gotten so much flack from peeps for making the comparison, I won't do it again here. I too believe that the case has been closed for a long time, but there are still others lurking in the grass who disagree. I'll take you guys at your word that this isn't the case and will expect not to see them spring up should the Niners lose on Feb 3rd. (yeah....right).

Having said that....this kid just has "it". You can see it in the reactions from Vernon and Frank...the guys that were here when it was DARK. One of the biggest compliments you can get is Frank Gore calling you a "Football Player". Thats Frank-ese for "You are one bad mother f*****".

I'll say it again here as I have been since I saw his first start in Chicago. I love the legs. I love the arm. I love his intelligence. I love his work ethic. None of those tho are his best attribute. Its his NERVE.

He doesn't flinch. Ever. NFC Championship Game. Down 17 pts. On the road and the crowd is deafening. Just march down and score. Execute perfectly. No "rocket balls" as Holmgren would refer to Favre when he got amped up. First start on Monday Night against the vaunted Bears D? No Prob. Hottest team in the NFL in their loud house (Saints)? No biggy. Go to New England in Primetime in December? No worries. First playoff game? I'll just set an NFL record. You can just keep lining up these tests and he'll just keep knocking them out of the park.

You need to look no further than #2 on the other sideline to see what I'm talking about. Matt Ryan had a fantastic game, but folded when it counted. He's done it every year he's been in the playoffs.

Kaep was in just his 9th NFL start and you'd think he was a 10 year vet. You can't teach that. Its an attribute that the good ones don't have. Only the GREAT ones do. Mind you, the great ones usually don't have all the physical tools Kaep has.

As I've said before, I'm typically not one to give into hyperbole. I don't usually buy into the hype. This guys tho? I'm baught in. 100%. I don't think he'll be a star. I think he'll be a superstar. Anyone who has talked to me on these boards knows that I'm not given to big statements like that. I honestly believe that tho. Its a great time toi be a Niner fan.

2) Crabtree: I have to give him points for showing up ready to play after the week he had. My hope and expectation is that this is just a learning experience and nothing more. If is real tho and he's guilty of what he was accused of, I'll never be able to root for him. I happen to think tho that he was setup. Some will say they are upset with his fumble at the one. I'm not one of them. Sometimes the defender just makes a good play and I think that's what happened. GREAT play by the DB. I'm just happy that he didn't become the next Earnest Byner.

3) Frank: Ya gotta love that this is all happening before Frank was done. I love that Harbaugh has turned this around in time for Frank to experience this. He's been here for a long time and seen some rough years. He's earned this. You can see it in his face and in his eyes. You can see it in his runs. The best part? He's healthy. He's fresh. He got to this point by being spelled by Hunter and James and he'll be at full strength in 2 weeks. Speaking of James, he's turning into quite a weapon. So quick. So fast. I'm interested to find out what happens next year when Hunter comes back.

4) The "Pattern": I have to be honest...that thing had me spooked. This was the best possible way to break it. I thought the Niners should win, but there was a big part of me that was telling me they wouldn't. Too many people were picking them to win. Too many people were discounting the Falcons. Too many times this season we had been burned just when it looked like the Niners were the best team in the NFL. No more. The Pattern is dead.

5) Goldson/Whitner: It can't all be good. LOL. Poor play in the secondary on multiple occasions. Out of position too many times and broken coverages resulting in points. We can't have that. They have 2 weeks to figure it out though and i trust that they can. It does make me nervous though.

6) Aldon: one thing I'm noticing that I don't like...teams are scheming him out of the pass rush by playing formations that force him to at least bumop a TE or reciever at the line. That greatly delays his rush. I don't know exactly what the thinking is there to have him out there, but I think thats one of the reasons for his drop in production.

7) Read-Option: I was really skeptical in preseason when I first saw Kaep running that stuff. Count me as one of those old school guys that thought the thing would never work in the pros. I was wrong in a big way. Same goes for the Pistol. ALOT of credit has to go to Harbaugh, Roman, and Baalke for seeing this a few years ago. Roman was still at Stanford when he visited Chris Ault at Nevada. I'm sure at some point someone will find the best way to defense it, but I don't think there is any one way that will shut it down completely. I think it's here to stay. Why? It's here to stay because it's viable. You can run multiple runs AND passes from it. This isn't the Wildcat which is pretty much just a run formation. Expect to see the Pistol all over the NFL next year and teams with an even remotely mobile QB will be running that option.

8) "The Cowboy": I just read something that made me real nervous. It was a report that Justin Smith wasn't planning on retiring after this season and that he might want to go 1 more year. Until I read that it had never crossed my mind that he would retire anytime soon. Say it ain't so Justin. I hope you are around for at least 3 or 4 more years.

9) Vernon: I was going to say that Vernon really showed up in this game, but I think thats actually inaccurate. I think he shows up in EVERY game, just not always as a receiver. All those deep passes that Kaep throws? Very often he's back there in protection while Delanie gets to run the route. He also often eats up coverage from the LBs and Safeties creating space for Crabtree and the other WRs. Bottom Line...he never went anywhere. This is pick your poison time. If Vernon isn't being doubled or is covered by a LB, Kaep will find him. Count on it.

10) Here we are agian: Ahhhhhh. ;-) All is right with the world. Playing for the prize again. Relevant again. I was too young to be a fan of the Niners in the 70's or even the early 80's. By the time I became a 49er fan they were already a few SBs into their run. I enjoyed watching them and the SB in '94 was my favorite. I got to see the transition to Steve and got to see that team grow into the team it became.

This is something completely different. This is even sweeter. This is watching every single member of the team get drafted. Watching them develop. Watching them struggle. This is going through coach after coach looking for the next guy to take this team to the mountaintop.

This ride leading up to now and in particular the last 2 years has been the most fun I've ever had as a 49er fan.

Now lets get it. Lets get that 6th Lombardi.

EDIT: It just occurs to me I forgot something important.

11) Defense: HUGE at the end there. Got manhandled early and made the plays they needed to when it counted. Brooks? HUGE plays down the stratch twice patting the ball down. Bowman? That was an incredible play on 4th and 4 at the end. BTW, that was NOT illegal contact. I've watched it 6 times now and it's right at 5 yards. Thats LEGAL. Also when Harry Douglas didn't make the catch that he was credited for? He grabbed Rogers by the collar and pulled him down. Thats how he got open. GREAT stand at the end. I couldn't NOT say that.

Marvin I swear we have the exact same thoughts every week!
1) Kaep is awesome and I also thought that his killer mindset (nerve) is his best attribute. He has ice in his veins. I wonder where he got that from because I can't imagine that Nevada away games were all that hostile.
2) Crabtree... I don't fault him at all. The Defense made a good play. If he had the ball out to his side I would have been pissed. It looked like Crabs was just trying to get over the goal line as fast as possible. A bang-bang type of a play and we lost that one.
3) Aldon... I love ther kid but I think he needs to work on some more moves in the off-season. Justin won't be around forever so we can't rely on the stunt move. Aldon still gets good pressure but teams are developing some good game plans to take him out of the game. I guess we need more pressure from Saop or Ray Mac. The designed Willis blitzes up the middle have had success as well.
4) My thoughts are the same for this Superbowl. I was born in 79. I do remember some of the early SB's but the Niners were always good when I was growing up. There is alot invested in this team because we have seen so many players and coaches come and go until we finally put all the pieces together.

5) Last thought and I was wondering if anyone else felt the same... I'm proud of the team for not breaking but man they had me worried that their mistakes were going to cost us the game. It was 24-14 at the half and I knew if we played like the better team in the 2nd half we would win. We did play better but the INT we got turned into a missed FG. Matt Ryan's Fumble turned into Crabtree's fumble. Stuff happens in football but we can't make those mistakes again. We should have been up by 14 at least and instead the falcons had a chance to go ahead in the final minutes. I watched alot of games but this one seemed like the nerve-racking game I ever watched.

Good stuff Marvin. Hopefully you will have one more positive "thoughts after rewatching the game..." in 2 weeks!
Negatives from the game:
1. The team seemed to be in the pattern - two wins and one loss - but fought their way out of it to win a tough game.
2. Some of the comments on this board said that Culliver should have been coveing Jones from the beginning and I think that they are right.
3. Ryan was getting the ball out and the Atlanta oline was fighting for their lives, and winning in the first half.
4. Poor pass rush for whatever reasons.
5. Atlanta is a good team and they fought well - they played their hearts out.
6. Atlanta Defensive line played well and especially the guy across from Iupati.
7. Iupati had a bad game and played a good tackle.
8. Crabtree fumble but he made a good play and got hit by a good defense. But they got that play done a few minutes later.

Positives from the championship game:
1. Roman stayed consistent and did not abandon the run game. He seemed a little fearful of letting Kaep run but it turned out well in the end.
2. Run game stayed good and it would appear that the oline began to wear down the Atlanta Defensive line. Got good balance out of the run and the pass.
3. Kaep stayed steady and did not try to make things happen but took advantage of what the defense gave him.
4. Fangio got things straightened out for the defense in the second half, the team played lights out and the pass rush improved, and the defense suffocated Atlanta.
I hope that they play that second half all the super bowl.
5. Good mix of receivers, dynamic play by Davis, no dropsies from Walker, consistent play from Crabs, fabulous running by James and Frank. Good offense for 3 quarters.
6. Special teams play was consistently good. Need a new punt returner but Ginn still got a good play. Akers missed his field goal but got good kickoffs. We will need good kickoffs in the SB. Lee was good as usual, especially the last punt.
7. We got through the patttern, and hopefully we will continue our record of winning after a week off. Good game plan, good rest, good focus, play hard, and win.
Thanks on a well written article. I knew we would have a worse reord this year but be a better team.It seems this team really wants it. GO NINERS !!!!!!!!!!!!1

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We took their best offense and still came out on top!
Once again Marv I agree with you a bunch.

Kaep just seems different from a lot of other 1st or 2nd year quarterbacks. He has a poise about him that is very hard to find with players his age. Beyond his physical attributes he shows the mental ability to help make him even more successful. I think we might be able to say that the 49ers may have actually "hit" at quarterback again. This kid could have a long, very good career ahead of him. Every time I watch him play the word I say the most is, "Wow".

Agree with you on Crabs. I think this will help his decision making going forward. He seems to have gotten his head screwed on right professionally and now he got a reminder about the off the field dangers of success. I suspected something was wrong with the story when it took days for him to finally get questioned.

Frank- After all these years he still continues to impress me. His running has always awed me, but now that he is getting to be in the spotlight I'm getting to see him in a whole new way. I'm seeing a soft spoken, humble, very football intelligent man. His leadership is also impressive. I would love to know what he was saying to Harbaugh on the sideline in the first half. I definitely can speculate.

Pattern? Ah yeah, well I've watched Da Vinci Code too. There are patterns everywhere that mean absolutely nothing. Not to that I don't believe Jesus was in fact married or had a

Goldson/Whitner- Here comes the defensive secondary coach in me. If you haven't played a team in a while, it is very difficult to predict what they will try to do to you. This is compounded if they haven't played a team like yours that you can get a good assessment on by watching film. So, early in games there is a period of adjustment. I believe that this is the case here. It was loud in that dome which only complicated matters more. I don't anticipate this problem with Baltimore as they have game experience against them.

Aldon- I think Fangio needs to adjust here. If teams are going to scheme against Aldon, he either has to get creative with him and move him around pre-snap. I think they have moved him up and down the line before. I believe I saw some against New England? Otherwise he needs to get Ahmad more active off his edge. He also has the ability to open a can of whoopass on QB's. Just ask "Crushed Ice" Ryan.

Read Option- Here goes the coach in me. As I mentioned I coached the last 10 years. 6 of those, our offense was option and then the pistol. That pistol offense is a real SOB to defend. Its a dog gone hydra. Cut off one head and the other gets you if ya read me. There are things you can do to try to stop it, but completely stopping it is very difficult. It takes a great amount of discipline from the defender on the edge to defeat it. It also takes very assignment sound football by everyone in the front 7. It will take defenses at the pro level a while to catch up but when they do, they will still need to play well to stop it. Historically, the option has been around so long and it has a long history of success when run correctly. I wasn't always a fan of the bone or the veer but I absolutely fell in love with the pistol because of the multiple formations and passing factor.

Cowboy- Even the Marlboro Man had an end. All the Niners can do is plan for when he rides off into the sunset.

Vernon- I knew this game was coming. It wasn't that it wasn't there. It was just that it never happened. Atlanta left that open all day versus Seattle so... My biggest thought is that will it be there versus Baltimore. Ray Lewis or Ellerbee will have a real hard time covering Vernon so the Ravens will need to use Reed or Pollard. Its gonna create matchup problems somewhere.

The Defense- I think management is going to need to work on adding some depth and role players to the defense for two reasons. They are asking them to play a ton of snaps. The numbers for the last two years for the 11 starters is obscene! They are gonna start breaking down. The other reason is that this type of offense, the one that scores fast, is going to put them on the field faster. Something to think about. Saw the same issue at the HS level.

Lastly, and I went out of order because to me #10 is THE one. If you haven't been a Niner fan for all of the other 5 its a little hard to completely appreciate what is happening but if you were at least around for the last you understand. What is happening is special. There are fans from other teams (Lions, Browns, Falcons) who have never felt this. There are some who have only felt it once, maybe twice in their entire lives. We as Niner fans missed out in the 00's, but we experienced the 80's, 90's and now in the 10's we are back. This team is built to be good for a while. Enjoy it. Many of you have tasted the medicine, now its time to get us some dessert. Because as we all now know, NOOOBODY CAN POSSIBLY HAVE IT BETTER THAN US! NOOOOOOOOOBODY!
Noticed that Delanie Walker was quiet. I think we hear more from him in the Super Bowl.
[ Edited by BadgerHawk on Jan 22, 2013 at 8:33 PM ]
BTW- here is the Turkey Day game box from last year
Originally posted by BadgerHawk:
Noticed that Delanie Walker was quiet. I think we hear more from him in the Super Bowl.

He was quiet but he caught the passes thrown to him finally.
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