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Dec 24, 2013 at 1:02 PM

bigwads
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Ray McDonald was great in 2011...he has statistically dropped off the face of the earth in both run support and rushing the passer. Pray that Tank Carradine works out next year.

It is quite pathetic that justin and aldon command three lineman on every pass play but McDonald and brooks were nonexistent last night against one of the worst OL in football. If those two play like that in the playoffs we are going nowhere.

[ Edited by bigwads on Dec 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM ]

Dec 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM

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Dec 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM

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pdizo916
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its hard to call it a pass rush when a team only rushes three or four at a time....

Dec 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM

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pdizo916
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its hard to call it a pass rush when a team only rushes three or four at a time....

Dec 24, 2013 at 6:38 PM

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Originally posted by bigwads:
Ray McDonald was great in 2011...he has statistically dropped off the face of the earth in both run support and rushing the passer. Pray that Tank Carradine works out next year.

It is quite pathetic that justin and aldon command three lineman on every pass play but McDonald and brooks were nonexistent last night against one of the worst OL in football. If those two play like that in the playoffs we are going nowhere.

Wow harsh. They each have specific responsibilities. Can't blame Mac if he's told to do something specific.

Dec 24, 2013 at 6:41 PM

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Kinda weird. When Dorsey came out of college he was suppose to be able to rush the passer. Espn said he was a rolling ball of knives in the pass rush. He comes off the field during those plays. Maybe next year when Ian comes back he'll get a chance to prove it.

Dec 26, 2013 at 10:53 AM

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Tank Carradine? Haha lets not go down that route I was just looking forward to the future...as long as we find a good Justin Smith replacement our d line will be set

Dec 26, 2013 at 11:16 AM

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Was annoyed how we couldnt adjust to the slant routes that kept killing us. It was always Roddy wiggling his way through the corner and a linebacker

Dec 26, 2013 at 11:25 AM

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Pass rush is fine, our defense has been excellent.

We are 17th in sacks even with missing one of our best pass rushers for much of the season.

If Aldon didn't have his DUI trouble, we'd be hovering around 5th/6th most sacks and the #1 overall Defense.

Only Carolina and Seattle have allowed less points.

No one has scored more than 24 on us since week 3.

If we don't turn it over, and don't f**k up on special teams, our Defense will have us in every game.

Dec 26, 2013 at 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Keyshawn also made a HUGE Valid point last night, he said the 49ers play to the level of their competition and I felt he was right, against good teams we fight hard like the Seachickens & Saints & Cardinals and against bad teams like tonight we let them hang around long enough to barely escape. That's gotta stop if they are truly to be a Super Bowl quality team.

What about all the blowout victories this season? JAC, WAS, HOU, TEN

Lol. No sh*t. HUGE valid point my ass.

Dec 26, 2013 at 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Originally posted by 49Alokay Time:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Keyshawn also made a HUGE Valid point last night, he said the 49ers play to the level of their competition and I felt he was right, against good teams we fight hard like the Seachickens & Saints & Cardinals and against bad teams like tonight we let them hang around long enough to barely escape. That's gotta stop if they are truly to be a Super Bowl quality team.

I guess you didn't watch the 5 game blow out streak

ATL brought everything to the table to give pay back from last year

COLTS, PANTHERS

So these are the bad teams they play down to, on par with ATL ? Lol. Ok.

Dec 26, 2013 at 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Tank Carradine? Haha lets not go down that route I was just looking forward to the future...as long as we find a good Justin Smith replacement our d line will be set

This! he needs reps and playing time, I believe next year is Justin last year and when he is gone, there could be a big down fall for rest of the D, look at playoffs last year when he was out

Dec 26, 2013 at 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by HearstFan:
yep - people criticize Ryan for not winning the big ones, but he does everything to make his team as competitive as it is. Deserves a lot of credit. He made his OL look good with quick throws AND knowing when he had time to take deeper shots. CK could learn from him.

CK could only dream of pass protection like his.

Dec 26, 2013 at 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by bigwads:
Ray McDonald was great in 2011...he has statistically dropped off the face of the earth in both run support and rushing the passer. Pray that Tank Carradine works out next year.

It is quite pathetic that justin and aldon command three lineman on every pass play but McDonald and brooks were nonexistent last night against one of the worst OL in football. If those two play like that in the playoffs we are going nowhere.

Hardly.
2011- 5.5 sacks, 2 PD, 3 FF, 32 tackles /11 ast
2012- 2.5 sacks, 1PD, 1 FF, 28 tackles /10 ast
2013- 3.5 sacks, 1 PD, 0 FF, 26 tackles / 8 ast. And this is with him missing 2 full games and various time in other games time with injuries and still having one more game to play

[ Edited by Hoovtrain on Dec 26, 2013 at 12:08 PM ]

Dec 26, 2013 at 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by LBSI9ers:

Originally posted by bigwads:
Ray McDonald was great in 2011...he has statistically dropped off the face of the earth in both run support and rushing the passer. Pray that Tank Carradine works out next year.

It is quite pathetic that justin and aldon command three lineman on every pass play but McDonald and brooks were nonexistent last night against one of the worst OL in football. If those two play like that in the playoffs we are going nowhere.

Wow harsh. They each have specific responsibilities. Can't blame Mac if he's told to do something specific.

What? You guys need to rewatch the game...it's Brooks that is always doubled, NOT Aldon. In fact, his first snap he was tripled blocked IIRC. McDonald had a sack too didn't he? That said, I do understand the OP concerns...we esp. struggle against power running teams...it seems like we give up 5 yards at least, a carry. And once we're playing on our heels, f*getabout the pass rush!