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Jan 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM
Aldon Justin Ahmad ray please put some pressure please!!!!!!!!
Jan 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM
  • Buchy
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We need to up this for next week, we let Ryan sit back and pick passes with far too good a WR corps for us to stop everything. We should have blitzed 5 or 6 early in the game and scared the s**t out of him.

He's not deserving of the Matty Ice nickname, he can be rattled easily when he's hit.
Jan 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM
You can thank Fangio for that.

I think he is still stuck on 2011 when the front 4 were unstoppable, but they've lost a step and sustained injuries. Time to start dialing a few designed blitzes up.
Jan 20, 2013 at 4:18 PM
Guys, there's already a thread for this discussion!! See "How Effective was the 49er game plan against Atlanta" Thread. Please share your thoughts!

Are the niners the worst in sacks in the NFL since November? Does anyone have the stats for that?

I think the total lack of pressure almost cost us the game today. And in fact has really put is in a hole for most of the last 5 games.

The performance against atlanta was not a blip in the trend.


It is the trend.
Dec 24, 2013 at 6:52 AM
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Ok so seriously where is the pass rush?? What's up with Aldon? I'm not seeing the dominant pass rusher. We'd better get the pass rush going and in a hurry if we want to win the Superbowl this year. It was disgusting seeing Matt Ryan carve us up like that and have all day to throw the damn ball. Needs to be addressed fast!!
Dec 24, 2013 at 6:54 AM
Fangio left the pass rush in the playbook last night..
Dec 24, 2013 at 7:29 AM
Originally posted by zillabeast:
You can thank Fangio for that.

I think he is still stuck on 2011 when the front 4 were unstoppable, but they've lost a step and sustained injuries. Time to start dialing a few designed blitzes up.

Nobody has lost a step.

2011- 42 sacks
2012- 38 sacks
2013- 37 sacks going into this week, even with Aldon missing significant time.

Even Justin Smith has 6.5 sacks, compared to 7.5 in 2011, despite being the oldest of the group.

The issue last night was the same issue that always occurs when we get a lead. Fangio plays conservative and drops 7 or 8 into soft zones every single play.
Dec 24, 2013 at 7:31 AM
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Ok so seriously where is the pass rush?? What's up with Aldon? I'm not seeing the dominant pass rusher. We'd better get the pass rush going and in a hurry if we want to win the Superbowl this year. It was disgusting seeing Matt Ryan carve us up like that and have all day to throw the damn ball. Needs to be addressed fast!!

Seriously? Aldon had 2 sacks against Tampa Bay just last week and has been getting a ton of pressure every week. He looks like the same monster he's always been.

Again, Matt Ryan carved us up because we were playing soft zones and dropping 7 or 8 into coverage the majority of the game.
Dec 24, 2013 at 7:37 AM
  • Jcool
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Matt Ryan was getting hit but he was in the no huddle in the 2nd half which we struggle against and he was making very quick passes.
Dec 24, 2013 at 7:38 AM
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Okay normally I don't blame a game on officiating but last nights game was especially bad. What happened to the pass-rush? Extreme holding upfront. Don't believe me? Replay the tape and look at the DL vs Atlanta's OL.

Falcon receivers and Tight ends played nudge the pass rushers all night too as Gruden was alluding too all game. That extra half second for Ryan against soft zone = SUCCESS.

Dec 24, 2013 at 7:57 AM
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terrible not to put more pressure on him,,,, he is the most hit qb in the nfl and we gave him all night.. well bottom line, big players make big plays and bowman bailed us out. and as i said,, even though i am beyond furious with roman today and our fourth quarter defense and our lack of pass rush,,,,, it is great the team just made the playoffs. to me that was a huge deal this year considering all the bad things that have happened,,,, roman, aldon smith, injuries,, roman
Dec 24, 2013 at 7:58 AM
Originally posted by zillabeast:
You can thank Fangio for that.

I think he is still stuck on 2011 when the front 4 were unstoppable, but they've lost a step and sustained injuries. Time to start dialing a few designed blitzes up.

This. To expect those three or four guys to beat 5 or more guys (backs are sometimes used to help block Aldon Smith) is asking too much of them. I stated in another thread Vic Fangio needs to mix in a little Rex Ryan or Dick Lebeau with his defense.
Dec 24, 2013 at 8:00 AM
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by zillabeast:
You can thank Fangio for that.

I think he is still stuck on 2011 when the front 4 were unstoppable, but they've lost a step and sustained injuries. Time to start dialing a few designed blitzes up.

Nobody has lost a step.

2011- 42 sacks
2012- 38 sacks
2013- 37 sacks going into this week, even with Aldon missing significant time.

Even Justin Smith has 6.5 sacks, compared to 7.5 in 2011, despite being the oldest of the group.

The issue last night was the same issue that always occurs when we get a lead. Fangio plays conservative and drops 7 or 8 into soft zones every single play.

THIS! We're not blitzing and that makes it very hard to get sacks people! Aldon is dominate, Justin is as good as any 3-4 DE, Brooks is very good, we're fine on defense, especially the front 7. Matt Ryan gets rid of the ball in like one nanosecond.
Dec 24, 2013 at 8:00 AM
49ers need to rush four and play press coverage, this seems to work best. when I see just a 3 man rush, I die inside because that is a guaranteed LOSS, No db in NFL History can stay with a wr for more then 5 seconds, C'MON MAN!!
Dec 24, 2013 at 8:01 AM
  • kray28
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Yeah, I kept hearing the word "nudge" from Gruden...wasn't sure what exactly he meant. Is it a euphemism for holding?
[ Edited by kray28 on Dec 24, 2013 at 8:02 AM ]
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