Originally posted by SJniner7:Just a little premature
Just a little
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Originally posted by SJniner7:Just a little premature
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by buck:
More than a little.
I wanted the team to draft Kaepernick. Prior to the last two games, he has not shown much.
The last two games sure indicate that he has the potential to a better than average quarterback.
Cam Newton looked great last year, but not so much this year. In fact,some are now saying Cam is a bust.
That's because Cam Newton is an athlete playing quarterback. He's a running QB all the way with questionable decision-making, teams have game-planned against him and been able to shut him down repeatedly this year. His record against winning teams is like 2-10. Now I get that Carolina isn't the most talented team, but it certainly isn't the worst and he really hasn't progressed from last year. He hasn't regressed either, its that teams have figured him out so he's getting a lot less touchdowns and has been quite ineffective at times. He doesn't seem fluid or natural and I don't know if he's ever going to be able to turn it around to become the quarterback that Carolina needs him to be.
Originally posted by UKNiners:
10 quarters of play. Wow! Serious?
Cam (not a fan) had the best rookie season of all time. And look what D coordinators are doing to him now that they have loads if film on him.
Crazy.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
That's a good point. A lot of good mobile running/throwing qb have had success but in the end they still need a good offensive system and the rest of the other guys on the team just like any other pocket passer qb. Other than Young, who's another dual threat qb that won the SB. I honestly don't remember.
A couple of other young dual threat qb that plateaued after a couple of years -- Vince Young, Cam Newton, and to some degree Vick and McNair..maybe. I think it's more than themselves. I think team have figured out how to defend the type of offense that is run for those qb also.
Does this mean the same for Kaep... Not sure. We do have a very good running game to compliment Kaep to help him out. I don't think any qb can be successful for long without that. Look at Rodgers and Eli right now. They are winning but struggled every other game throwing the hell out of the ball. I think Kaep does have a better chance with Harbaugh.
Originally posted by SJniner7:
Just a little premature
Originally posted by WildBill:
Kaep has the tools for JH to mold him into a sucessfull QB. As long as he doesn't let it go to his head and keeps listening and studying to get better and works hard to keep the basics he is well on his way. While those of you who are saying it is to premature are right, He has shown nothing but positive progress. From last season to this. From game to game when he went in at the near midway point to the bears game and the Saints game. He went against a very good albiet simplistic bears D and succeeded. He went into one of the most enviroments a visiting team can go into against a D, that although was last, was on a streak and more importantly that loves to blitz and disguise its coverages and made only two mistakes. The only thing that held the O back was the numerous holding calls that killed at least two drives. He paid back his defense by leading the team on a drive from his own 6 that killed 9.5 minutes and although he needed help from moss on one of his two mistakes, they scored a field goal.
However, Kaep is much like Cam, the two major differences however is that Kaep has JH and company, and he is not caught up in his fame like Cam, who, like most sophmores who achieved success in their rookie years start thinking about fortune first and forgot that he needs to keep working, that he hasn't learned it all yet. Dalton and Ponder were more NFL ready, but they do not have much upside compared to Kaep. If Cam was in our enviroment, he would do well with guy like Willis, J Smith, Gore and Staley to keep him grounded. as well as JH riding his arse. So Cam may well fail if they don't get someone prevent from becoming a VY or Vick.
This is one of those situations where hopefully talent and the people who can get the most of it come together like Montana and Walsh, or even Young and Walsh.