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How will the Packers attack the 49ers?
Jan 6, 2013 at 5:29 AM
- blizzuntz
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If I recall last game, we tried to play a base defense but ended up adjusting to their 3-4 WR sets by playing a nickel and dime coverage with Bowman playing MLB and Willis on the sideline a lot.
Jan 6, 2013 at 7:00 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
If I recall last game, we tried to play a base defense but ended up adjusting to their 3-4 WR sets by playing a nickel and dime coverage with Bowman playing MLB and Willis on the sideline a lot.
We were torched with the hurry-up offense against the Pats and the Packers are very capable of doing this on a regular basis as well AND will spread us out. The good news is that we don't substitute anyways so we won't need to change personnel. They can attack us all day with RB/TE/Slot WR drag routes...we always have a LB trailing this guy (we're great North and South) but poor laterally for some reason. Also, the Roman-like play where Rodgers throws a quick out to the RB in the flat WHILE the WR's are already engaged in blocking could work on us all day. When they do run, they should run right at Justin Smith/Aldon Smith. Don't even try to run off McDonald/Brooks' edge.
Jan 6, 2013 at 7:10 AM
- billbird2111
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They will attempt to establish the run, fail, and then do what NCommand predicts: spread us out and go into a hurry up passing mode with four or five receiver sets. This will fail.
It doesn't look like there's any rain in the forecast next weekend, but a January game without those famous Candlestick whipping winds is a rare game indeed. I expect wind to be the issue and I expect our running game to make the difference because we WILL have the edge there.
There is a way to combat Clay Matthews off the edge and that sweeping move into the backfield. I saw Steve Young do it time and time again against Charles Haley in the '94 NFC Championship game. We found that weakness and exploited it all game long. I just hope there's some institutional memory inside 49er HQ and braintrust.
It doesn't look like there's any rain in the forecast next weekend, but a January game without those famous Candlestick whipping winds is a rare game indeed. I expect wind to be the issue and I expect our running game to make the difference because we WILL have the edge there.
There is a way to combat Clay Matthews off the edge and that sweeping move into the backfield. I saw Steve Young do it time and time again against Charles Haley in the '94 NFC Championship game. We found that weakness and exploited it all game long. I just hope there's some institutional memory inside 49er HQ and braintrust.
Jan 6, 2013 at 7:27 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
They will attempt to establish the run, fail, and then do what NCommand predicts: spread us out and go into a hurry up passing mode with four or five receiver sets. This will fail.
It doesn't look like there's any rain in the forecast next weekend, but a January game without those famous Candlestick whipping winds is a rare game indeed. I expect wind to be the issue and I expect our running game to make the difference because we WILL have the edge there.
There is a way to combat Clay Matthews off the edge and that sweeping move into the backfield. I saw Steve Young do it time and time again against Charles Haley in the '94 NFC Championship game. We found that weakness and exploited it all game long. I just hope there's some institutional memory inside 49er HQ and braintrust.
Staley got destroyed against Matthews and will need help. CK7's athleticism should help some. You bring up a very good point. We can play against his aggressiveness (although he was prepared for Webb, a similar style with his legs - he said he needed to be patient, contain the edge and take his shots rushing when he could). That said, when he does come, Staley needs to make sure he pinches him INSIDE this game to where Iupati is and even design a few plays where Staley holds him inside for a second, releases and run CK7 off that edge while Staley and a pulling Boone are downfield blocking for huge gains. We want Matthews second-guessing and playing on his heels. C.Woodson is the other key man we need to focus on as Capers always does a great job of bringing his S's down (hiding them) in the box and blitzing and stuffing the run for TFL's...I've always wished we'd use Goldson/Whitner more like this as well.
Jan 6, 2013 at 7:38 AM
- AZ9erfan520
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If they get up early, ala Seattle,we will be in for a long day. We can trade scores but we can't fall behind by more than 14. Alot is going to depend on how our right side stops the run. If we can, they will be forced to play one dimension on offense. If we can't, the play action game is going to open us up to some potential big plays and quick scores. Call me Mr. Obvious but Justin Smith's tri is probably going to decide how this game goes.
Jan 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM
- Tigerlaw
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WR lined up in backfield for swing passes and dump offs
See Cobb and adjustments they made last time
See Cobb and adjustments they made last time
Jan 6, 2013 at 10:12 AM
- father49er
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Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
WR lined up in backfield for swing passes and dump offs
See Cobb and adjustments they made last time
We'll see a lot of these on first downs and runs on 2nd downs when we take out Soap.
Jan 6, 2013 at 10:18 AM
- sfout
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Randall Cobb out of the backfield, just like the Vikings did with Harvin. Then throw it deep to the guy being guarded by TB because he's wrongly or rightly given up some bad PI calls downfield.
Jan 6, 2013 at 10:22 AM
- HudsonValley
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Watch the dumpoffs to their RBs
Watch the short screens to their WRs (Cobb)
Watch the slant or simple out pattern to Finley.
Packers will try their best to dink and dunk to victory with the occasional deep shot.
Watch the short screens to their WRs (Cobb)
Watch the slant or simple out pattern to Finley.
Packers will try their best to dink and dunk to victory with the occasional deep shot.
Jan 6, 2013 at 10:55 AM
- SFrush
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Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Watch the dumpoffs to their RBs
Watch the short screens to their WRs (Cobb)
Watch the slant or simple out pattern to Finley.
Packers will try their best to dink and dunk to victory with the occasional deep shot.
He'll probably drop it. His hands are awful.
Jan 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM
- rondoman
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Randall Cobb is Green Bays most explosive player. They line him up everywhere. He scares me.
Jan 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM
- Joecool
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by billbird2111:They will attempt to establish the run, fail, and then do what NCommand predicts: spread us out and go into a hurry up passing mode with four or five receiver sets. This will fail.
It doesn't look like there's any rain in the forecast next weekend, but a January game without those famous Candlestick whipping winds is a rare game indeed. I expect wind to be the issue and I expect our running game to make the difference because we WILL have the edge there.
There is a way to combat Clay Matthews off the edge and that sweeping move into the backfield. I saw Steve Young do it time and time again against Charles Haley in the '94 NFC Championship game. We found that weakness and exploited it all game long. I just hope there's some institutional memory inside 49er HQ and braintrust.
Staley got destroyed against Matthews and will need help. CK7's athleticism should help some. You bring up a very good point. We can play against his aggressiveness (although he was prepared for Webb, a similar style with his legs - he said he needed to be patient, contain the edge and take his shots rushing when he could). That said, when he does come, Staley needs to make sure he pinches him INSIDE this game to where Iupati is and even design a few plays where Staley holds him inside for a second, releases and run CK7 off that edge while Staley and a pulling Boone are downfield blocking for huge gains. We want Matthews second-guessing and playing on his heels. C.Woodson is the other key man we need to focus on as Capers always does a great job of bringing his S's down (hiding them) in the box and blitzing and stuffing the run for TFL's...I've always wished we'd use Goldson/Whitner more like this as well.
On the other end, I wouldn't be surprised if GB tries to come out doin what NE did in the second half. GB may come out in no huddle which concerns me. Our DL will be gassed by the 4th unless we can get off the field. If I were playing the 9ers, I would go no huddle from the start because we don't substitute DL or hardly anyone.
Jan 7, 2013 at 1:40 PM
- 9ersLiferInChicago
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Question:
Why are we thinking of ways we can be beat for the world to see?
Why are we thinking of ways we can be beat for the world to see?
Jan 7, 2013 at 1:42 PM
- rondoman
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:Question:
Why are we thinking of ways we can be beat for the world to see?
Please tell me you're joking.
Jan 7, 2013 at 2:16 PM
- Leathaface
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
They will attempt to establish the run, fail, and then do what NCommand predicts: spread us out and go into a hurry up passing mode with four or five receiver sets. This will fail.
Yup. They're gonna definitely try to use a lot of no huddle on us. I wouldn't be surprised if they just start using it right off the bat. I can see them mixing runs into their no huddle (shotgun draws for example).