Originally posted by Hitman49:
He will get the record by having Favre come out of retirement and boot leg out and go down for Aldon...
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Aldon Smith will get 18 QB Sacks or More ?
Aldon Smith will get 18 QB Sacks or More ?
May 18, 2012 at 6:13 PM
- JTsBiggestFan
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May 18, 2012 at 6:19 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by DirtyP:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, hard to refute any of the points made here today by all. I can genuinely see both sides of the coin here too. Its quite conceivable that if Fangio lines him up all over the place on every down like a Matthews or Ware, he could get more sacks with more opportunities...if we open up the defensive playbook and exploit mismatches along the OL. We shall see if Fangio does this or keeps it more vanilla b/c we had so much success with it last year. Either way, nice to see him in the film room studying hard to be the best! For what it's worth, I hope you guys are right all around!
I think you are right Fangio is going to find some creative ways to use Aldon Smith as he gets more coaching. After what I saw last year I fully expect Aldon Smith to become the next Demarcus Ware just like Willis instantly became the next Ray Lewis. He's got that much physical talent.
Could VERY well be the case b/c he can bull rush, has all the moves, feel, always keeps his eyes on the QB, great closing speed, reach and clearly wants to be the best. I look forward to watching him grow and develop into a FT starter!
May 18, 2012 at 8:25 PM
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He's unblockable.
20+ sacks.
20+ sacks.
May 21, 2012 at 4:15 AM
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You're asking if Aldon Smith is going to, pretty much, be among the league leader's in sacks next season?
I would say it's a good bet. He's going to be playing more, probably rushing the passer more, and is very likely going to improve as a player with a full offseason under Fangio.
At the same time though, I'll just be happy if he's at 10+. It's been a long time since we've had a premier pass-rusher.
I would say it's a good bet. He's going to be playing more, probably rushing the passer more, and is very likely going to improve as a player with a full offseason under Fangio.
At the same time though, I'll just be happy if he's at 10+. It's been a long time since we've had a premier pass-rusher.
May 21, 2012 at 4:20 AM
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The fact that they cant double team Aldon and Justin Smith means they will pick their poison. Aldon will have the opportunity, lets see him shine!
May 21, 2012 at 9:10 AM
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Skeptics winning the poll. Interesting.
I think the added time playing on base downs causes his sack numbers to drop a bit. Not going to be as fresh as last year. Still should post 10+ sacks, which is a good number, but I think 18+ is a bit on the high side.
I think the added time playing on base downs causes his sack numbers to drop a bit. Not going to be as fresh as last year. Still should post 10+ sacks, which is a good number, but I think 18+ is a bit on the high side.
May 21, 2012 at 9:23 AM
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12-15 is where I would place him
May 21, 2012 at 9:26 AM
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Originally posted by jreff22:
12-15 is where I would place him
agreed
May 21, 2012 at 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Skeptics winning the poll. Interesting.
I think the added time playing on base downs causes his sack numbers to drop a bit. Not going to be as fresh as last year. Still should post 10+ sacks, which is a good number, but I think 18+ is a bit on the high side.
I can't wait to see.....
I wouldn't be too suprised if the precentages dropped, but the total increased.
May 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM
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no
May 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM
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12.5
May 21, 2012 at 10:36 PM
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There really isn't a good barometer for him. In limited snaps, he was devastating. The other rookies to put up 13+ sacks were:
1. Jevon Kearse 14.5
2. Aldon Smith 14.0 (2 in playoffs)
3. Dwight Freeney 13.0
He's more like Kearse than Freeney. Freeney is a technican, Kearse won the genetic lottery. Freeney has been a great player, Kearse was never able to match his rookie total and slowly declined throughout his career.
Aldon has some of the best raw ability I've ever seen. Huge frame, long arms, great strength, and quick burst. Saying he'd be the next D. Ware last year was laughable, now its definitely reasonable. The only real concern is 1st and 2nd down duty will flag him of us energy and he won't be able to attack the QB as effectively.
I see it a different way. I think he will be better with less sacks. Not because his skills have diminished, but because other guys in our front 7 will take the sacks from him. No longer will Justin Smith and RayRay get doubled. Both Smiths will get doubled, and this could lead to Brooks, Willis, and Bowman to have good pass rushing years.
I guess what I'm saying is Aldon won't be able to muster 14 again, because our front 7 is too good . (he'll be a double digit sack guy, not to worry)
1. Jevon Kearse 14.5
2. Aldon Smith 14.0 (2 in playoffs)
3. Dwight Freeney 13.0
He's more like Kearse than Freeney. Freeney is a technican, Kearse won the genetic lottery. Freeney has been a great player, Kearse was never able to match his rookie total and slowly declined throughout his career.
Aldon has some of the best raw ability I've ever seen. Huge frame, long arms, great strength, and quick burst. Saying he'd be the next D. Ware last year was laughable, now its definitely reasonable. The only real concern is 1st and 2nd down duty will flag him of us energy and he won't be able to attack the QB as effectively.
I see it a different way. I think he will be better with less sacks. Not because his skills have diminished, but because other guys in our front 7 will take the sacks from him. No longer will Justin Smith and RayRay get doubled. Both Smiths will get doubled, and this could lead to Brooks, Willis, and Bowman to have good pass rushing years.
I guess what I'm saying is Aldon won't be able to muster 14 again, because our front 7 is too good . (he'll be a double digit sack guy, not to worry)
May 22, 2012 at 3:28 AM
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
There really isn't a good barometer for him. In limited snaps, he was devastating. The other rookies to put up 13+ sacks were:
1. Jevon Kearse 14.5
2. Aldon Smith 14.0 (2 in playoffs)
3. Dwight Freeney 13.0
He's more like Kearse than Freeney. Freeney is a technican, Kearse won the genetic lottery. Freeney has been a great player, Kearse was never able to match his rookie total and slowly declined throughout his career.
Aldon has some of the best raw ability I've ever seen. Huge frame, long arms, great strength, and quick burst. Saying he'd be the next D. Ware last year was laughable, now its definitely reasonable. The only real concern is 1st and 2nd down duty will flag him of us energy and he won't be able to attack the QB as effectively.
I see it a different way. I think he will be better with less sacks. Not because his skills have diminished, but because other guys in our front 7 will take the sacks from him. No longer will Justin Smith and RayRay get doubled. Both Smiths will get doubled, and this could lead to Brooks, Willis, and Bowman to have good pass rushing years.
I guess what I'm saying is Aldon won't be able to muster 14 again, because our front 7 is too good . (he'll be a double digit sack guy, not to worry)
Hard to predict numbers, but Aldon Smith is every bit as talented as any other pass rusher in the NFL.
Kearse used speed and explosion to get his sacks, a player can only maintain that for so long. Aldon uses a combination of everything but mostly strength and leverage. The only player he reminds me of, is Bruce Smith. Bruce Smith is in the Hall because of his longevity; if you look at the numbers, DeMarcus Ware has better numbers than Bruce Smith did at that point in his career, and I think Aldon is every bit as talented as Ware. It's a fair comparison if you actually watch how dominant Aldon is on the field.
It's been a long time since the league has seen a pass rushing rookie as talented as Aldon Smith. He was a huge reason for our 13-3 season and we are VERY lucky to have drafted him.
I was raving about him in pre-season when other's weren't so sure, and I'm going to continue to rave about him above and beyond what other people expect. I don't think many people realize what exactly we have here. The last defender we drafted who stood out as strong as Aldon Smith in his first season, was Bryant Young. I think Aldon Smith looked even better than Bryant Young did in his first year. People forget that Aldon was playing a NEW position with a five week training camp, and as a BACKUP almost broke the rookie sack record. Freeny and Kearse were not backups in their rookie years. And Kearse relied almost entirely on speed and burst. Freeny has always relied on that spin move.
Aldon Smith has everything you could possibly want in a pass rusher. Talk of his numbers dropping with twice the snaps, is beyond silly. This guy is for REAL.
May 22, 2012 at 9:18 AM
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VERY possible.
If we can get more of a PRush from the other side then there are only so many people they can double team.
Justin will definittely get DTeamed. Ray Mac often. If Cam can become a PRushing threat from the other side then Aldon has a better chance to hit 18.
His challenge will, IMO, be more in teams game planning around him and not them taking him out with blockers.
If we can get more of a PRush from the other side then there are only so many people they can double team.
Justin will definittely get DTeamed. Ray Mac often. If Cam can become a PRushing threat from the other side then Aldon has a better chance to hit 18.
His challenge will, IMO, be more in teams game planning around him and not them taking him out with blockers.
May 22, 2012 at 9:23 AM
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One other point I really love about Aldon.
He is working hard to improve his game, watching his film from last year seeing all the details on what to do better.
That's the attitude championships are built on.
He is working hard to improve his game, watching his film from last year seeing all the details on what to do better.
That's the attitude championships are built on.