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Does our offense *really* need a vertical threat?
Apr 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM
- Oakland-Niner
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It depends. Is Alex our QB? He needs a specialized probowler at ever postion or he wont succeed.....
Apr 15, 2012 at 9:42 PM
- BigYellowKahuna
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Without a vertical threat our opponent's D will play closer to the LOS thus not only affect our short passing game but also our running game
Apr 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM
- qnnhan7
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
It depends. Is Alex our QB? He needs a specialized probowler at ever postion or he wont succeed.....
He will make them HOFers after he's done with them. Don't you know -- QB makes the receivers better.
Apr 15, 2012 at 10:12 PM
- WildBill
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You always want a wr to be able to go deep. Can't rely only on vernon or like Gore he will get crowded. If the 49ers can get 10tds on the deep from their wr or even medium passes taken all the way to the house like Kyle did. It loosens up the run defense and opens the short game and gives them chances to gain bigger YAC. Please don't say that is not what the WCO is about because, that is an insult to Bill Walsh and Joe and Steve, just look what they did, they did take shots down the field and hit.
Apr 16, 2012 at 12:53 AM
- schmons
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it'd be nice to take the pressure off the defense every once in awhile
Apr 16, 2012 at 3:36 AM
- THEB
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Originally posted by WildBill:
You always want a wr to be able to go deep. Can't rely only on vernon or like Gore he will get crowded. If the 49ers can get 10tds on the deep from their wr or even medium passes taken all the way to the house like Kyle did. It loosens up the run defense and opens the short game and gives them chances to gain bigger YAC. Please don't say that is not what the WCO is about because, that is an insult to Bill Walsh and Joe and Steve, just look what they did, they did take shots down the field and hit.
This.
A deep threat is an integral part of the WCO even if they arent actually used often. it stretches the defense and opens up the middle of the field
Apr 16, 2012 at 3:43 AM
- SanDiego49er
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Yes it does.
Apr 16, 2012 at 5:40 AM
- Rgonelove
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I agree with idahoniner. I have thought all along all we need is that posession receiver someone to move the chains and to catch that ball like its theirs like they bought that ball and u cant have it. Whrn B. Walsh drafted J. Rice thats what he saw and the upside played out and became who he was because if u remember J. Rice wasnt catching the ball all that good in the beginning. There r so many good players that can b drafted in either round.picking by round is kind of overrated with the exception of a few it only comes down to where u wanna spend the money. I vote de/dt or cb at pick #30
Apr 16, 2012 at 5:50 AM
- matt49er
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To me we need both. no we don't need a guy like D.Jackson that specializes in going vertical but we need players that have it in their skill set. The signing of Randy Moss is an example that the organization agrees with me. Manningham is going to surprise people, he's a very talented player I was very high on when he was at Michigan. Not many players are better than Cruz or Nicks. I think Mario and Crabs are going to prove to be a fine WR duo next season.
Apr 16, 2012 at 6:54 AM
- dtg_9er
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The WCO was created to put pressure on the defense at/on every square inch of the field between the offense and the end zone. It differed from the traditional offenses by putting as much attention on the short passing game, to both sides and the middle...and running both outside and inside depending on the defense. So while the WCO does not need all their WRs to be burners, they are all verticle threats by the nature of the offense...play tight and they will burn you.
One problem the 9ers have had is time for developing plays. Every WR in this league is a potential verticle threat if the QB has time. Dwight Clark was no burner but he often found his way down field when the D was pressing. Harbaugh is a master of using the entire field, though he (Roman?) overused the run between tackles last year. I can see more trickery this year and look forward to more time from the OLine...or the improvement will not be as great as we all hope. Smith has to be in sync with his receivers as well to hit short over the middle...a neglected area last year.
One problem the 9ers have had is time for developing plays. Every WR in this league is a potential verticle threat if the QB has time. Dwight Clark was no burner but he often found his way down field when the D was pressing. Harbaugh is a master of using the entire field, though he (Roman?) overused the run between tackles last year. I can see more trickery this year and look forward to more time from the OLine...or the improvement will not be as great as we all hope. Smith has to be in sync with his receivers as well to hit short over the middle...a neglected area last year.
Apr 16, 2012 at 7:43 AM
- Willisfn4life
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
It depends. Is Alex our QB? He needs a specialized probowler at ever postion or he wont succeed.....
Sus, what have I told you about logging in under other people's usernames?
Apr 16, 2012 at 8:44 AM
- 228niner
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but what about Ginn? what would his skill set be considered? not a threat but a deep concern? deep worry?
Apr 16, 2012 at 8:48 AM
- nflguy49
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We have deep threats. What we don't have is a qb that can consistently throw accurate passes deep down field. Well, not our current starting qb at least.
Apr 16, 2012 at 8:48 AM
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
It depends. Is Alex our QB? He needs a specialized probowler at ever postion or he wont succeed.....
He will make them HOFers after he's done with them. Don't you know -- QB makes the receivers better.
Good sport.
Apr 16, 2012 at 8:50 AM
- nflguy49
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Anyone that watched the NFC Title game knows the problem is more then just the receivers. Considering the Niners gave Alex a low ball offer (for a starting qb in the nfl) and then tried to sign Manning it's clear our front office doesn't think it's all on the receivers either.