Week 15: Thoughts after re.....ok only watched it once because I was AT the game. ;-)

Originally posted by 80sbaby24:

Originally posted by Chico:
it's cool how you can see SO MUCH more stuff at the game live that you can't see on TV. I always wonder why they don't throw the deep ball more to the sidelines because it seems like the receivers would be playing one on one against a DB

Amazing isnt it?

What the "sit at home Niner fans" on NT dont fully understand is how many wide open WRs Alex misses due to dumping the ball off to early or just not identifying a WIDE OPEN WR. It happens every single game. Not just talking about the horrendous pass to Crabtree that should have been an easy touchdown. Im talking about Kyle Williams streaking down the middle of the field with the closest defender at LEAST five yards behind him, and Alex not even attempting to throw it.
Happens game after game. It doesnt even bother me anymore that certain posters completely downplay my weekly comments about this problem. I just realize that they would have no way of knowing this, because they dont go to games.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
^ And please don't misinterpret my post to mean that Smith DOES NOT miss open receivers. He does.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by 80sbaby24:

Originally posted by Chico:
it's cool how you can see SO MUCH more stuff at the game live that you can't see on TV. I always wonder why they don't throw the deep ball more to the sidelines because it seems like the receivers would be playing one on one against a DB

Amazing isnt it?

What the "sit at home Niner fans" on NT dont fully understand is how many wide open WRs Alex misses due to dumping the ball off to early or just not identifying a WIDE OPEN WR. It happens every single game. Not just talking about the horrendous pass to Crabtree that should have been an easy touchdown. Im talking about Kyle Williams streaking down the middle of the field with the closest defender at LEAST five yards behind him, and Alex not even attempting to throw it.
Happens game after game. It doesnt even bother me anymore that certain posters completely downplay my weekly comments about this problem. I just realize that they would have no way of knowing this, because they dont go to games.

Question: Do you also personally attend the 31 other teams' games? Seems to me that if your premise is that one can only fully see a QB's failings or successes by being in the stadium, you'd have to in order to make an apples to apples comparison between them.

In other words, either (a) Smith misses far more open WRs than other QBs, as evidenced by an analysis of all of the data (viewed in person) or (b) you don't have the same pool of data available to you to compare Smith's performance to every other QBs.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Question: Do you also personally attend the 31 other teams' games? Seems to me that if your premise is that one can only fully see a QB's failings or successes by being in the stadium, you'd have to in order to make an apples to apples comparison between them.

In other words, either (a) Smith misses far more open WRs than other QBs, as evidenced by an analysis of all of the data (viewed in person) or (b) you don't have the same pool of data available to you to compare Smith's performance to every other QBs.

Originally posted by VaNiner540:
This and Ahmad Brooks pass coverage was awful...Rottenburger made him look silly on more than 2 occasions. Anyone think Grant would be an upgrade over either of these guys? I realize that Grant plays MLB but i thought he covered Heath very well during the 2nd half, and from what I've seen his pass rush is pretty decent. The biggest thing that worries me about him is his speed/acceleration....he has potential to be good, but also potential to eat dust. Thoughts?

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by 80sbaby24:

Originally posted by Chico:
it's cool how you can see SO MUCH more stuff at the game live that you can't see on TV. I always wonder why they don't throw the deep ball more to the sidelines because it seems like the receivers would be playing one on one against a DB

Amazing isnt it?

What the "sit at home Niner fans" on NT dont fully understand is how many wide open WRs Alex misses due to dumping the ball off to early or just not identifying a WIDE OPEN WR. It happens every single game. Not just talking about the horrendous pass to Crabtree that should have been an easy touchdown. Im talking about Kyle Williams streaking down the middle of the field with the closest defender at LEAST five yards behind him, and Alex not even attempting to throw it.
Happens game after game. It doesnt even bother me anymore that certain posters completely downplay my weekly comments about this problem. I just realize that they would have no way of knowing this, because they dont go to games.

Question: Do you also personally attend the 31 other teams' games? Seems to me that if your premise is that one can only fully see a QB's failings or successes by being in the stadium, you'd have to in order to make an apples to apples comparison between them.

In other words, either (a) Smith misses far more open WRs than other QBs, as evidenced by an analysis of all of the data (viewed in person) or (b) you don't have the same pool of data available to you to compare Smith's performance to every other QBs.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Another brilliant post...Brooks is NOT supposed to be covering TE's 20 yards down the sidelines. His job was to have underneath coverage which he did...the issue was that he had NO help over the top like he was supposed to get...twice. So he stayed with his man. Learn the game of football before you make ignorant posts like this.

Originally posted by Hopper:
good post.

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Question: Do you also personally attend the 31 other teams' games? Seems to me that if your premise is that one can only fully see a QB's failings or successes by being in the stadium, you'd have to in order to make an apples to apples comparison between them.

In other words, either (a) Smith misses far more open WRs than other QBs, as evidenced by an analysis of all of the data (viewed in person) or (b) you don't have the same pool of data available to you to compare Smith's performance to every other QBs.

There is another quarterback on the field at our home games. You don't have to travel around the country to make a rational comparison.

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
Question: Do you also personally attend the 31 other teams' games? Seems to me that if your premise is that one can only fully see a QB's failings or successes by being in the stadium, you'd have to in order to make an apples to apples comparison between them.

In other words, either (a) Smith misses far more open WRs than other QBs, as evidenced by an analysis of all of the data (viewed in person) or (b) you don't have the same pool of data available to you to compare Smith's performance to every other QBs.

There is another quarterback on the field at our home games. You don't have to travel around the country to make a rational comparison.

except i have seen what people call a missed open WRs. i acknowledge smith is pretty bad at the deep sideline pass and misses those a lot. but what many view as an open would have thought ben had an open WR in the end zone on the first drive

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Now ya see, thats why I need to RE-watch games. ;-)

I came away from the game thinking that Grant didn't play all that well and it seems everyone is disagreeing with me on that one. I'll have to go back and see it again to see if I was wrong watching it live.

He made a great play on the pass breakup, but it seemed to me that he was missing some assignments in the run game that allowed for some long (by 49er D standards) runs by the Steelers.

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Question: Do you also personally attend the 31 other teams' games? Seems to me that if your premise is that one can only fully see a QB's failings or successes by being in the stadium, you'd have to in order to make an apples to apples comparison between them.

In other words, either (a) Smith misses far more open WRs than other QBs, as evidenced by an analysis of all of the data (viewed in person) or (b) you don't have the same pool of data available to you to compare Smith's performance to every other QBs.

There is another quarterback on the field at our home games. You don't have to travel around the country to make a rational comparison.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Can't discount the roaming defender underneath. People tend to do that when they mentioned 'wide open' and only noticed the trailing defender. How about Larry Grant going up for Ben's pass underneath. A few inches lowered and it would have been a pick.