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Originally posted by English:
So owners of other teams can invest outside of their team without impact, but not the 49ers?

Not all owners have Stan Kroenke (18 billion) David Tepper (20.6 billion) or Jerry jones (11-13 billion) type money. Then there is how they use it. How much liquid money do they have? Are they over extending themselves? I know about team owners overextending themselves. The maloof brothers bought the Sacramento kings and ended up over extending themselves right out of the NBA. Their bad decisions almost cost Sacramento our basketball team.

Seems like some people just cannot fathom that not everything operates inside their own perfect little bubble. Just because these guys are billionaires doesn't prevent them from pissing it away through bad decisions, bad investments and bad timing.
[ Edited by maximusdecimus on Mar 12, 2025 at 11:52 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Pure speculation by Cohn. No proof. Just, "hey look at this shiny thing I found in my butt!" 49ers are in the process of shedding older players who are injury prone or no longer productive or both. Every 49er fan saw it last season. Deebo was slow. He wasn't breaking tackles. Greenlaw didn't even play. Even the blocking by Juice fell off.

Kyle and John have dumped unproductive players before. No, it was not some soccer team. It was more of the guys they sent packing were not performing. The NFL is a performance business. If you don't perform, you're out. The 49ers won six games last season. SIX. Not enough. Time for a change. Because, if you do not perform, the next guy sent packing is the coach and the GM.

So you think TK and both Matt's are lying too? They said part of this is because Jed doesn't want to spend cash. This isn't about the cap clearly with all the DM they're eating.

this is about MONEY and instead of investing back into this team this off season, he bought a soccer team

Bull. The bottom line is wins. Not money. As a player, you have to prove your worth. EVERY SEASON. There are no "off years." Could this spell the end of Christian McCaffrey? It might. I would not be surprised. Jed York expects this franchise to win. Period. A down year from the coaching staff is acceptable. But, as a player, if you do not perform, you are out.
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Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Originally posted by English:
So owners of other teams can invest outside of their team without impact, but not the 49ers?

Not all owners have Stan Kroenke (18 billion) David Tepper (20.6 billion) or Jerry jones (11-13 billion) type money. Then there is how they use it. How much liquid money do they have? Are they over extending themselves? I know about team owners overextending themselves. The maloof brothers bought the Sacrame to kings and ended up over extending themselves right out of the NBA.

Seems like some people just cannot fathom that not everything operates inside their own perfect little bubble. Just because these guys are billionaires doesn't prevent them from pissing it away through bad decisions, bad investments and bad timing.

FWIW most of Jerry Jones net worth is tied up in the Cowboys. He would have to sell the team to be worth 13 billion.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by dj43:
More baseless speculation.

The reason for all the cost-cutting now is to get the cap numbers back under control, not because Jed can't afford it. Jed has ALREADY spent the money. That is what the $80 million dead money is all about.

And where's the money NOW to invest? We don't even have enough players to play on the DL currently. Who's playing LBer? Where's the investment in the team going forward? We've signed a bunch of no name scrubs for a pack of cigarettes.

Also no he had not spend that money. Deebo was due $17M in REAL money. Collins was due $10M in REAL money. Same with Floyd.

Stop talking about the cap like that s**t really matters to the owner. What matters is what he has to take out of his wallet and pay a player in real money, not cap hits. There's a difference. That's been the theme of this offseason.

The point was about the dead money that has already been paid and the fact they can't doing that.

The 49ers lead the league in dead money. Time to cut it back.
Originally posted by Jcool:
FWIW most of Jerry Jones net worth is tied up in the Cowboys. He would have to sell the team to be worth 13 billion.

Yes. Much like the Yorks who would have to sell their investments to be worth their estimated 5.5 billion.
This guaranteed money is real money that has to be in an escrow account. It's not surprising that the Yorks are pissed about last offseason and are now cutting costs.
[ Edited by maximusdecimus on Mar 12, 2025 at 11:57 AM ]
Originally posted by billbird2111:
Bull. The bottom line is wins. Not money. As a player, you have to prove your worth. EVERY SEASON. There are no "off years." Could this spell the end of Christian McCaffrey? It might. I would not be surprised. Jed York expects this franchise to win. Period. A down year from the coaching staff is acceptable. But, as a player, if you do not perform, you are out.

Jed is a venture capitalist end of the day. He puts his money into things that make him money, this yr he invested in a soccer team that cost him $200M. He has another soccer team that might make it to the premier league which mean much more money for him and much much more money he has to invest into them to stay in that league.

there's a reason he is trying to sell 10% of the team.

of course winning matters, BUT his money went elsewhere this off season and we know why.
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Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Originally posted by Jcool:
FWIW most of Jerry Jones net worth is tied up in the Cowboys. He would have to sell the team to be worth 13 billion.

Yes. Much like the Yorks would have to sell their investments to be worth their estimated 5.5 billion.

Denise is worth 4 billion. The 49ers are worth 6-9 billion.
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I hate to say it but Grant has a point


Yeah he's right. But it's not the bean counter. It's the Yorks themselves. But yes they are shifting money to soccer and taking it away from the 49ers. That hurts our chances. We are doing a rebuild.

Rubbish. The purchase of Rangers is being funded by the sale of 10% of the shareholding in the 49ers, not by salary cap money.

https://www.pionline.com/private-equity/nfl-enters-brave-new-world-private-equity-firms-buy-stakes-bills-and-dolphins
According to Forbes the Yorks are worth between 5.8 and 6 billion. Either way that's not stan kroenke money.
Kroenke also owns Arsenal, the Colorado avalanche, and the Denver nuggets. Owning
a successful soccer team in a prestigious league overseas is a venture in of itself to these billionaires. From sheiks to billionaire sports owners, they all want to own a successful soccer team.
[ Edited by maximusdecimus on Mar 12, 2025 at 12:05 PM ]
I would need more evidence to connect a decrease in cash spending with the 49ers to a new investment in a Soccer club. For me, it makes total sense for the 49ers to reset this roster without any outside influence. It's just time. We can spend cash when the team is on the ascent. We'll see if that happens.

That said, I do believe the parts about Paraag's influence in general, and I don't think that's changed a whole lot since Jed has ran the team. He's a quasi GM, and to me it's a problem.*
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Mar 12, 2025 at 12:03 PM ]
Originally posted by dj43:
The point was about the dead money that has already been paid and the fact they can't doing that.

The 49ers lead the league in dead money. Time to cut it back.

The DM doesn't matter that was on the books no matter what, they just lumped it all up now. That has no real effect on being able to sign players if you pay them large signing bonuses and backload deals. They can open up like $23M in space my restructuring Warner and giving Kittle and extension. That means giving out real cash though.

Those DM hits are just as much about moving off players as Jed wanting his actual cash back that was in escrow to pay those players.
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
According to Forbes the Yorks are worth between 5.8 and 6 billion. Either way that's not stan kroenke money.
Kroenke also owns Arsenal, the Colorado avalanche, and the Denver nuggets. Owning
a successful soccer team in a prestigious league overseas is a huge deal to these billionaires. From sheiks to billionaire sports owners, they all want to own a successful soccer team.

They aren't one of these $20 billion + owners. Or $100 billion + like Larry Ellison. Which is why they should sell to Larry Ellison.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They aren't one of these $20 billion + owners. Or $100 billion + like Larry Ellison. Which is why they should sell to Larry Ellison.

That would be a dream. And Larry ellison really wants to own a professional team. Ellison would move the Niners back to SF and build his own stadium like kroenke did with SOFI
[ Edited by maximusdecimus on Mar 12, 2025 at 12:10 PM ]
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I would need more evidence to connect a decrease in cash spending with the 49ers to a new investment in a Soccer club. For me, it makes total sense for the 49ers to reset this roster without any outside influence. It's just time. We can spend cash when the team is on the ascent. We'll see if that happens.

That said, I do believe the parts about Paraag's influence in general, and I don't think that's changed a whole lot since Jed has ran the team. He's a quasi GM, and to me it's a problem.*

Part of resetting a roster is reinvesting into it. They have literally not even tried to do that. Their signings have been a joke.
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They aren't one of these $20 billion + owners. Or $100 billion + like Larry Ellison. Which is why they should sell to Larry Ellison.

That would be a dream. Ellison would move the Niners back to SF and build his own stadium like kroenke did with SOFI

There are some advantages of having one of the richest people in the world. Money is never an issue to him. While the Yorks are rich it is to them in some sense. With managing and buying more professional sports teams.
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