Still with the email? how much more of an idiotic notion can one grasp too? maybe google "email to all 31/32 teams" and realize that its been done over and over this year. The media coverage outside of training camp reports have been all negative because its much easier to criticize an organization than point to any recent successes when it has had a losing product. Negative fans are also the loudest and make the most responses, creating more hits for a bloggers site.
A certain poster (boycotting mentioning his name) has gone off the reservation, he's been wrong about Aldon, Free Agency, Baas, his man-crush Heitmann, and a whole lot more in the past two seasons... keep grasping to the "TB sucks" straw buddy. Luckily for him school starts soon, so he go build up his ego by telling children theyre wrong, teach how to correctly spell last names, and then call them females to let them know how much smarter he is when they call him on his BS.
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Aug 21, 2011 at 1:50 PM
- TheRickestRick
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Aug 21, 2011 at 1:51 PM
- saj4423
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This is a tough one. Gore has busted his ass for this team and deserves a contract but would it be smart to give him the contract him wants? I don't know.
Aug 21, 2011 at 1:51 PM
- bigwads
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Is there really any viable options for trading Gore except draft picks? I think the best realistic option is a mere 2nd rounder. Gore's problem is RB's are a dime a dozen. When it comes to the position, I really don't think we would get a drop off from the position bringin multiple backs in. By commitee there would be no problem replacing Gore's production.
What ever happened to Brian Westbrook anyway...he more than filled in for Gore last year.
What ever happened to Brian Westbrook anyway...he more than filled in for Gore last year.
Aug 21, 2011 at 1:51 PM
- LaMattsBlue
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Originally posted by stonecold590:
Give Gore the $. I thought I would never say to pay a player what he wants but Gore has bled red and gold for this team. If it wasnt for Gore our crappy years would have been so much worse. Hes a total horse. Give him a good three to four year deal and make it front heavy for cap reasons.
Ya. We have the cap space now so front load it as much as possible. That seems to make the more sense to me.
Maybe AB can chime in here. He is our salary cap expert.
Aug 21, 2011 at 1:51 PM
- niner4life21
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by stonecold590:
Give Gore the $. I thought I would never say to pay a player what he wants but Gore has bled red and gold for this team. If it wasnt for Gore our crappy years would have been so much worse. Hes a total horse. Give him a good three to four year deal and make it front heavy for cap reasons.
You can't pay players for past performance. They have to be compensated based on future results. The past is only used as an indicator of future results.
If we were to pay players based upon the past but not the future, then we should just send a $100m check to Joe Montana right now. He can't do much for us going forward, but he was a hell of a QB in his day.
i agree. Gore was payed for his performance in 2007 and has made good money ever since. We can't pay him top RB money because the truth is that he is no longer a top RB. He needs to lower his expectations for the extension and then we can get this thing finished before the season starts.
Aug 21, 2011 at 1:54 PM
- Schulzy
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Originally posted by Godsleftsock:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:Lol shouting at the wind much?
The Great Trent Baalke. A genius living amongst us. P.S. And with that comment, Trent's mom, sister, wife, and dog log on to defend the Great One.
Aug 21, 2011 at 1:55 PM
- AJ_Larrea954
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Originally posted by Kurtz49:
I would not mind paying him...but if we have to give him DeAngelo money I would rather trade him if we could get a 1st round pick.
Trade him to the Bengals for a 1st rounder so we can get Andrew Luck with the 1st overrall pick......BOOM!
-btw that was a joke
[ Edited by AJ_Larrea954 on Aug 21, 2011 at 2:02 PM ]
Aug 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM
- socal9er42
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Kind of on the fence on this one.
I got a hunch that when the front office told Gore that they would make him happy if he ended his holdout, they thought they'd give him a pay bump to the upper half of NFL running backs, not make him the very top paid one. They have to look at the long term well being for the team in regard to the salary cap.
I am a big fan of Gore and the effort/intensity he brings, but facts is facts, as they say. He has had a number of injuries and is coming off of a fairly major one. He has missed an awful lot of time. Rosenhaus has a bit of a reputation to play hardball in the press. Hope the team can work something out, but it won't be the end of the world if they trade him due to it not being a bluff.
It's real easy for a bunch of fans to spend the teams money, it's tougher when it's your call as the GM and you have carefully reviewed upside/downside of a Williams type deal for Gore given the background. These are the tough calls that Baalke has to make, and going the wrong way would be another nail in his coffin in the future.
I got a hunch that when the front office told Gore that they would make him happy if he ended his holdout, they thought they'd give him a pay bump to the upper half of NFL running backs, not make him the very top paid one. They have to look at the long term well being for the team in regard to the salary cap.
I am a big fan of Gore and the effort/intensity he brings, but facts is facts, as they say. He has had a number of injuries and is coming off of a fairly major one. He has missed an awful lot of time. Rosenhaus has a bit of a reputation to play hardball in the press. Hope the team can work something out, but it won't be the end of the world if they trade him due to it not being a bluff.
It's real easy for a bunch of fans to spend the teams money, it's tougher when it's your call as the GM and you have carefully reviewed upside/downside of a Williams type deal for Gore given the background. These are the tough calls that Baalke has to make, and going the wrong way would be another nail in his coffin in the future.
Aug 21, 2011 at 2:06 PM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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I don't find this to be complicated. Offer Gore a 4 year, 30 million dollar contract that is front-loaded and filled with playing time incentives to cover our arse in case of injuries. If Frank declines, then he has choices to make, and we will live with whatever happens next.
Aug 21, 2011 at 2:09 PM
- DaDivaRecieva15
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Trade him and a 2nd round pick for CJ2K, and give CJ2K the fat contract
BOOM!
BOOM!
Aug 21, 2011 at 2:10 PM
- Jersey9er
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My thing is, where is all this trading Frank Gore coming from. Did a reporter, beat writer, just conjure this up, as a result of Frank being frustrated, and everyone is running with it. Or is there actual evidence stating that if he doesnt get the right deal, he wants or the organization wants to trade him.
just wondering, because on the home page there are at least 3-5 articles all talking about Gore and a trade.
just wondering, because on the home page there are at least 3-5 articles all talking about Gore and a trade.
Aug 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM
- TheRickestRick
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Originally posted by Jersey9er:
My thing is, where is all this trading Frank Gore coming from. Did a reporter, beat writer, just conjure this up, as a result of Frank being frustrated, and everyone is running with it. Or is there actual evidence stating that if he doesnt get the right deal, he wants or the organization wants to trade him.
just wondering, because on the home page there are at least 3-5 articles all talking about Gore and a trade.
One site reported speculation as fact, and the other reports are just pointing to that report to hop on the journalism bandwagon. If it's all untrue the rest get to point to the initial report as wrong rather than running with something they didnt factcheck. Internet Journalism 101
Aug 21, 2011 at 2:15 PM
- VA49er
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Here is one for you. How is it we can't keep the lid on moving Taylor Mays but you offer up one of the best running backs in the business and there is nothing concrete?
Aug 21, 2011 at 2:15 PM
- DaDivaRecieva15
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Originally posted by Jersey9er:
My thing is, where is all this trading Frank Gore coming from. Did a reporter, beat writer, just conjure this up, as a result of Frank being frustrated, and everyone is running with it. Or is there actual evidence stating that if he doesnt get the right deal, he wants or the organization wants to trade him.
just wondering, because on the home page there are at least 3-5 articles all talking about Gore and a trade.
Actually, after the game yesterday Kim Coyle interviewed Gore and asked him about the extension, i can't remember what he said, but he didn't look too happy. Anybody else see this interview?
Aug 21, 2011 at 2:18 PM
- tjd808185
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Originally posted by sfout:
Signing Gore to a DeAngelo Williams type deal is the equivalent to what we did to Nate Clements, massive overpayment for an over the hill player. Gore would be like if Baalke came it him with a 4 year deal $20Mill deal with $10Mill guaranteed. Hell maybe we'll find a team willing to trade for both Gore and T. Mays lol. The positive stuff I'm suddenly hearing about Xavier Omon kind of makes me think a Dixon, Hunter, Omon backfield could be a reality if we can find a trade partner for Gore. The departure of Gore could also open the door for developing Masoli into a Slash-type player. In the end I would probably be happier if we traded Gore before he left in free agency, I bet he would resign if the market ended up being soft but I think it's time we moved on from him.
And how did Clements contract hurt us? He played during the reasonable part of his contract and then we cut him once the money got unreasonable.