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Jul 27, 2011 at 12:48 PM
- dtg_9er
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He was a very athletic QB who played more like a RB. I don't see the transition as a problem. I loved him at Oregon and thought he would lead them to the Pac 25(?) title. Very quick and tough...and stealing from frat guys...is that really a crime? Weed? Let's dump the freak from the Giants while we're at it.
Jul 27, 2011 at 1:47 PM
- WRATHman44
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I was pretty down on the kid after the signing, but after reading the SI article and remembering what an idiot I was in college, I am willing to be patient and give the kid the benefit of the doubt. I hope he doesn't get squished by NFL bigbodies
Jul 27, 2011 at 1:49 PM
- Wodwo
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Originally posted by 5280High:Originally posted by Wodwo:Originally posted by 5280High:Originally posted by Wodwo:Originally posted by 5280High:
People seem to be underating this guy as an UDFA. No one sees a bit of Hines Ward mixed with Randl-el coming out of college? He was QB of the ducks cause he was one of, if not the most athletic guys on the team. He tough and doesn't shy away from contact, plays with attitude, quick as hell and adds versatility with the ability to throw the ball for some trick plays.
We will find out if he has hands and can learn to run routes, but if any rookie UDFA wide receivers are gonna get a roster spot... the early money is on him.
I still like him as a running back.
Why's everyone want him at WR?
Going from running QB to NFL RB is a much different transition than from QB to WR and he isn't all that big. Robinson did it but he was allot bigger coming out of college and he still wasn't all that great as a RB, not taking into account his special teams impact.
You want to get a guy like this into space, not running between the tackles.
Hmm... I think he's big enough. He's 5'11 220 somethin'. He's also got a lot more natural lean in his cuts, where Robinson was really stiff... and just ran straight forward with his helmet down so he had no field vision.
From what I saw, the kid can make people miss is traffic and he's really good at absorbing and dishing hits. Just seems more natural the way he runs to stick him at RB.
Plus, I would think it's an easier transition because you don't have to learn route running as much and all the minutia that goes along with getting off the line against the jam and what not... just hit the gap you're supposed to and if you've got instincts, you find a crease.
Dunno... we'll see. Maybe he ends up the starting QB? Who knows, right?
Didn't know he was 220, that is sizable. But just playing devil's advocate when you look at a RB, you see a guy who probably started playing ball at 5 and developed the skills and muscle memory to protect from and dish-out contact... getting under pads, setting that shoulder to run over a defender. Just from the limited highlights of Masoli, he's got the mentality to take on the defender but he hits and falls forward while churning his legs, but its to get the extra yard and not outrun the arm tackle like the standard RB in the NFL. He's missing those consistent churning legs right after contact to keep running through tackles. Thats my .02 on why hes a better fit at WR.
I would love to see him as our slot/KR/PR/RB/Wildcat QB/ Trick play guy etc. But we gotta look at his shot of actually making the team...
1) QB - Could just be me but I dont see it, he can be a camp arm but since Harbaugh is pretty knowledgeable about him from his Pac10 days... I don't see him last there very long before a Jerette Johnson or some other UDFA QB comes in to fill that roll.
2) RB - as mentioned earlier, its possible but not plausible. One of the main ways to get on the field is pass protection as a RB... being a QB for so long, probably not his fore-tee.
3) WR - his most logical position. Get's his athleticism in space, he understands the mind of a QB and what QB's like to do. He is quick and shifty, and tough enough to wear he would relish the Hines Ward role of decleating unaware DB's.
Add in KR/PR as a plus.... lets see him play and prove he is deserving of one of these spots!
I win.
Jul 27, 2011 at 2:12 PM
- Gore_21
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
He was a very athletic QB who played more like a RB. I don't see the transition as a problem. I loved him at Oregon and thought he would lead them to the Pac 25(?) title. Very quick and tough...and stealing from frat guys...is that really a crime? Weed? Let's dump the freak from the Giants while we're at it.
Is he quick and fast enough to be an NFL running back?
Jul 27, 2011 at 2:14 PM
- OregonDuckNiner
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Originally posted by Gore_21:Originally posted by dtg_9er:
He was a very athletic QB who played more like a RB. I don't see the transition as a problem. I loved him at Oregon and thought he would lead them to the Pac 25(?) title. Very quick and tough...and stealing from frat guys...is that really a crime? Weed? Let's dump the freak from the Giants while we're at it.
Is he quick and fast enough to be an NFL running back?
definitely not, he was more of a bruising QB when he ran.
He was quick and agile, but definitely not enough to be a NFL rb.
Dude does hold Oregon's all time record for the squat. His legs are like tree trunks
Jul 27, 2011 at 2:20 PM
- Wodwo
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Originally posted by OregonDuckNiner:Originally posted by Gore_21:Originally posted by dtg_9er:
He was a very athletic QB who played more like a RB. I don't see the transition as a problem. I loved him at Oregon and thought he would lead them to the Pac 25(?) title. Very quick and tough...and stealing from frat guys...is that really a crime? Weed? Let's dump the freak from the Giants while we're at it.
Is he quick and fast enough to be an NFL running back?
definitely not, he was more of a bruising QB when he ran.
He was quick and agile, but definitely not enough to be a NFL rb.
Dude does hold Oregon's all time record for the squat. His legs are like tree trunks
Yeh, that's the impression I got from his highlights.
He can make people miss in small area traffic, has no problems with contact. Good body lean in his cuts.
Dunno if he'll succeed, but that's how I'd use him.
Jul 27, 2011 at 2:22 PM
- bigmike55
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Originally posted by OregonDuckNiner:
"That n**ga is raw!" lol
Jul 27, 2011 at 3:43 PM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by OregonDuckNiner:Originally posted by Gore_21:Originally posted by dtg_9er:
He was a very athletic QB who played more like a RB. I don't see the transition as a problem. I loved him at Oregon and thought he would lead them to the Pac 25(?) title. Very quick and tough...and stealing from frat guys...is that really a crime? Weed? Let's dump the freak from the Giants while we're at it.
Is he quick and fast enough to be an NFL running back?
definitely not, he was more of a bruising QB when he ran.
He was quick and agile, but definitely not enough to be a NFL rb.
Dude does hold Oregon's all time record for the squat. His legs are like tree trunks
You no doubt have seen more of him than I have but you never know for sure until he tries. As an UFA he is at least worth a look and if Gore decides to hold out the 9ers will need a backup or two. He is difficult to bring down so might be similar to Gore.
What is his speed? I have not seen a number anywhere but he played faster than the opposition in Oregon.
Jul 27, 2011 at 3:47 PM
- OregonDuckNiner
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:Originally posted by OregonDuckNiner:Originally posted by Gore_21:Originally posted by dtg_9er:
He was a very athletic QB who played more like a RB. I don't see the transition as a problem. I loved him at Oregon and thought he would lead them to the Pac 25(?) title. Very quick and tough...and stealing from frat guys...is that really a crime? Weed? Let's dump the freak from the Giants while we're at it.
Is he quick and fast enough to be an NFL running back?
definitely not, he was more of a bruising QB when he ran.
He was quick and agile, but definitely not enough to be a NFL rb.
Dude does hold Oregon's all time record for the squat. His legs are like tree trunks
You no doubt have seen more of him than I have but you never know for sure until he tries. As an UFA he is at least worth a look and if Gore decides to hold out the 9ers will need a backup or two. He is difficult to bring down so might be similar to Gore.
What is his speed? I have not seen a number anywhere but he played faster than the opposition in Oregon.
He was fast and extremely physical for a QB. He never went down on first contact and always kept his legs churning for extra yards. With that being said, I guess he does have the makeup of a RB, I just don't see it translating into the NFL.
His speed as fast for a QB, but he was not a speedster like Darron Thomas is at Oregon currently.
Plus, I don't know if he has the size to become a RB. He is extremely build and ripped as f**k, but he is still pretty small nonetheless.
He would need to bulk up, which in turn would make him solely a bruising RB.
But yeah like you said, its worth a shot. He is from Daly City afterall.
Jul 27, 2011 at 3:50 PM
- Norcal9erfan
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Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
5'11"?
LMFAO!!!
Jul 28, 2011 at 2:00 PM
- jreff22
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Eric_Branch Eric Branch
RT @mattbarrows: QB help: The 49ers signed McLeod Bethel-Thompson from Sac State. He'll be able to take field w/ Kaepernick tomorrow.
RT @mattbarrows: QB help: The 49ers signed McLeod Bethel-Thompson from Sac State. He'll be able to take field w/ Kaepernick tomorrow.
Jul 28, 2011 at 2:01 PM
- okdkid
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its about time. was getting impatient with this dude.
Jul 28, 2011 at 2:01 PM
- NinerBuff
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That makes me feel SOO much better
Jul 28, 2011 at 2:01 PM
- jreff22
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who is this guy?
Jul 28, 2011 at 2:02 PM
- blunt_probe
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Who?