Originally posted by NCommand:
Good, quick research and a good example to start out with as we’ll be running a similar version of the 3-4 in SF! So remember that old argument about how the WILL is supposed to be the primary rusher and the SAM is more responsible for sealing the edge, lining up over the TE and covering? Debunked…Clay Matthews primary position IS the SAM and that is the same position as Lawson and in one season, Clay has put up more sack numbers, QB pressures and big plays than Manny has his entire collective five-year career!
I’ll tell you what…you and I should really watch this Superbowl closely for the “other OLB” on both teams to see how they are utilized in their 3-4’s to get a better idea of how our current personnel (leaving or not) would fit in. I’ll be as objective as possible. Deal?
Your contention is that Manny hasn’t been used properly and that if we add Manny to a Dom Capers-like defense, Manny would emulate Clay’s production?
In this case, Fangio won’t have the final say. I think there is no question that Baalke is targeting a pass rusher within his first two picks. He seems to “get it” esp. coming from the background as a former OLB himelf.
I’m not a big college fan but I’m interesting in hearing what you have to say about this connection b/c it may pay dividends into understanding our draft board come April. Do you or others have anymore thoughts on this issue?
Was this long enough? LOL
Great response, as always.
I just cut out everything that was a good enough point to not even bother debating.
I'll use my the same response format that I did last time. IMO, it cuts down on post size.... we both tend to get a little "wordy", yes?
1) Dom Capers is creative and unorthodox. The role of the SAM from previous discussions was meant for traditional "read and react" 3-4 defenses, like the vanilla one that we ran. Even in the vanilla defense the SAM needs to be able to rush the passer at least well enough to pressure the QB. Clay Matthews is not a traditional 3-4 OLB, either. I do think the vanilla 3-4 is going the way of the dodo. So, not debunked... going extinct. Fair?
2) Deal! Though, it's hard to avoid watching Raji... he takes up 3/4 of the screen.
3) I don't think Lawson has been used correctly, but I don't think he would have nearly the same success that Matthews does in Caper's defense. I believe I said as much in my post.
4) I think Baalke "gets it", too. I wasn't trying to say that there would be an argument between Baalke and Fangio. I think they will see things the same way after discussing the scheme. Baalke said he would work with the coaches. IIRC, we hadn't even hired Fangio when Baalke gave his opinion. I agree that we will target a pass rusher or two early in the draft. I think they'll figure it out.
5) Clay Matthews does give some real insight into what I believe Fangio will prefer for his scheme based on what I have read.
Matthews played outside linebacker the year before he was drafted, but was mostly relegated to special teams where he excelled. During that offseason he hit the weights and bulked up. He was used as an "elephant" style linebacker in his senior year. He was basically a versatile defender who was raw. Thing is... he only has 4.5 sacks his senior year.
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Pass Rush and Blitz: Matthews shows the ability to elude blockers on the move, staying low in his pads and maintaining balance coming off the edge to get into the backfield with good urgency. He plays with 100 percent effort and if unblocked, he is relentless in his pursuit of the quarterback. He is better served pressuring the pocket on the move than with his hand down, as he gives up too much bulk to combat offensive tackles on a regular basis. With his burst through the gaps, he could be a nice fit as a strong-side linebacker, as his speed is evident racing through the holes. Unfortunately, speed is his only asset as a blitzer, as he does not have a good array of pass rush moves. He can get caught up vs. inside trash due to a lack of ideal size for a down lineman, but as a linebacker, his acceleration and power lets him get a strong push off the blocker. He needs to stay active with his hands to prevent getting absorbed working inside, but he gives good effort as a blitzer, especially when attacking from the back side, making him a better fit for the linebacker position than as a rush end. GRADE: 7.0
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So, it seems that Capers and the Packers were more interested in his potential and versatility than his pass rush skills. He's been coached well by one of the best in Kevin Greene, but his ability to blitz is what got him drafted, IMO.