The Remainder of the 2010 Season is Pointless

Originally posted by Wodwo:
MadDog,

We are all just a bunch of puppies who keep following around our master and hoping for some love and attention, even when all he does is kick us for trying to get some.

Football is pointless. Life is pointless.

Sincerely,

Wodwo

/emocide

Life is good. The Niners are bad.

Gotta look on the bright side. The Niners can begin anew in 2011 with someone who knows how to win....what a concept. In the meantime, we are simply burning time with this team and staff.

P.S. I am not saying that watching the games will be miserable (although most of these games has been painful to watch). It is simply the equivalent of watching a strike replacement league squad on the field.

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Gibbs brought back the Redskins from the ashes to become competitive again....despite Daniel Snyder.

Joe Gibbs is a top 5 or even top 3 coach of all time, and even his success was modest

It was modest, but the cupboard was virtually empty. It is not the same with the Niners, who have some talent on board. This team is not that far away. They simply need leadership and a system that works.

Originally posted by fryet:
MadDog presents a worst case scenario. If the 49ers stick with a 3-4, then their defense should do no worse than this year (i.e. average). Offensively, there will have to be a change in philosophy, so there will be changes there. The 49ers,though, are probably best bringing one of the Smiths back (my vote is Alex - I am not sold on Troy at all), and also spend a high draft pick on a QB. When it comes to OC and DC, the 49ers could do a lot worse than those 2, so it wouldn't surprise me if one or both survives this year. That, of course, would be up to the new HC.

The bottom line is that we are an 8-8 team that is underperforming. Management will not accept a complete rebuild of the team, nor should they. They should instead draft someone that can do more with less.

Please Niners don't bring back Alex---I want that era over and done with --it makes my stomach sick just the thought of him coming back yet again.

Prediction this thread hits 50 pages in 2-3 days

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Life is good. The Niners are bad.

Gotta look on the bright side. The Niners can begin anew in 2011 with someone who knows how to win....what a concept. In the meantime, we are simply burning time with this team and staff.

P.S. I am not saying that watching the games will be miserable (although most of these games has been painful to watch). It is simply the equivalent of watching a strike replacement league squad on the field.

I'm glad your life is good.

Hehe....

I just like to watch my team play. I like it when they win. That's enough of a point for me.

P.S. Hopefully we aren't actually going to watch strike replacement squads next season. /emocide

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I think the Niners throw a lot of money in the direction of Gruden, and keep Baalke in his current role.

Gruden is a big fan of Alex Smith (he tried to trade up from the fifth pick to the first overall to get him in 2005), but I still think the Niners go QB with their first round selection.

It's probably more accurate now to say that Gruden WAS a big fan of Alex Smith back in 2005. Probably not so much now.

He actually was praising him again this year. He praised Alex and all the players as talented.

But I agree with Mad.

But I hope it isn't pointless

Originally posted by Wodwo:
Eh, it isn't pointless... I still like to watch my team win games.
As far as using it as any kind of evaluation for the off season? You may be right. It's tough to predict what a new head coach or GM will decide to do. If we hire a GM, they may evaluate the talent on the them and the prospects in free agency and the draft and use that to decide if they have enough talent to warrant making a decision on what coach to bring in based on that coaches knowledge of the scheme that best fits our potential players.

This is really a hard discussion to have in the middle of the season, especially considering the state (or non-state, rather) of the CBA. It could be a VERY bumpy off season, folks. I wouldn't expect business as usual.

Personally, I'm just going to spend the rest of the season enjoying my favorite team play my favorite sport. We don't know for sure what the future holds, so my advice is to enjoy what you can while we have it.

This.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
I think the Niners throw a lot of money in the direction of Gruden, and keep Baalke in his current role.

Gruden is a big fan of Alex Smith (he tried to trade up from the fifth pick to the first overall to get him in 2005), but I still think the Niners go QB with their first round selection.

It's probably more accurate now to say that Gruden WAS a big fan of Alex Smith back in 2005. Probably not so much now.

He actually was praising him again this year. He praised Alex and all the players as talented.

But I agree with Mad.

But I hope it isn't pointless

Sure, when a guy makes plays in a football game, he will get praised by the announcers. That doesn't automatically mean though as a head coach, he would be willing to bank his reputation (not to mention his job) on the guy.

Obviously, two very different things.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by pigskin:
MadDog,
Eventhough you were wrong in your 2009 prediction, I thought that thread was way better than this. I am kinda disappointed.

You are not giving any meaningful content here. Your post does not explain why the remaining of this season is pointless, and I also don't see any meaningful prediction.

I know I can't do better, but you should.

The reason why the rest of the season is pointless is:
1. The team is not going to the playoff
2. There is nothing to build upon, since the coaching staff is going to be fired
3. The new staff will select players that fit their scheme, which will probably be different than our scheme.

1) You don't know that until we are mathematically eliminated.
2) Where this is most probable, it's not guaranteed.
3) See #2.

The Remainder of the 2010 Season is Pointless... for YOU.

But nothing you can say or do will stop me from watching any of the Niner games.

Originally posted by MadDog49er:

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
Gibbs brought back the Redskins from the ashes to become competitive again....despite Daniel Snyder.

Joe Gibbs is a top 5 or even top 3 coach of all time, and even his success was modest

It was modest, but the cupboard was virtually empty. It is not the same with the Niners, who have some talent on board. This team is not that far away. They simply need leadership and a system that works.

Gruden is the typical control freak. He would love to have Alex abide by his every word...well...until he says, "Throw it, Alex! He's open."

We haven't lost a game by more than 3 points since Raye was fired, and you're calling the season OVER?? Give me a break, Troy Smith doesn't even have to get any better than the Broncos game (he will) and we would still be competitive enough to make a run.
Sometimes I think the depression of being 2-6 clouds fans ability to honestly look at how we got there. If ANY team has means, motive, and opportunity to MURDER the competition in second half its us.

1. New QB that has revitalized the offense
2. Offensive Line has continued to improve
3. Both Walker and Davis will be back healthy, that's a devastating 2 TE combo with a good QB
4. Toughest opponents are Bucs and Packers, the Bucs have had to rely on 4th quarter comebacks too often this season, and their last 3 wins haven't been by more than 3 points. Packers have been vulnerable as well, and the only team they've blown out was the Bills in the beginning of the season.

This team is going At LEAST 8-8 and will definitely win the division.

Well..our offense should be awesome next year since Goodell is two steps away from banning defense.

Originally posted by PlasmaHero:
We haven't lost a game by more than 3 points since Raye was fired, and you're calling the season OVER?? Give me a break, Troy Smith doesn't even have to get any better than the Broncos game (he will) and we would still be competitive enough to make a run.
Sometimes I think the depression of being 2-6 clouds fans ability to honestly look at how we got there. If ANY team has means, motive, and opportunity to MURDER the competition in second half its us.

1. New QB that has revitalized the offense
2. Offensive Line has continued to improve
3. Both Walker and Davis will be back healthy, that's a devastating 2 TE combo with a good QB
4. Toughest opponents are Bucs and Packers, the Bucs have had to rely on 4th quarter comebacks too often this season, and their last 3 wins haven't been by more than 3 points. Packers have been vulnerable as well, and the only team they've blown out was the Bills in the beginning of the season.

This team is going At LEAST 8-8 and will definitely win the division.

Thanks for visiting us online, Jed.

The Niners are not going 6-2 the rest of the season. They are winless on the road so far (the London game was considered a home game, and the crowd certainly was a home crowd), so why do you automatically think we will win any games on the road.

This season is toast. Unless Singletary becomes the next Bill Walsh......in the next week, the playoffs are a pipe dream.

I agree with most of what you say. My question is this:

Will the Yorks be smart enough to hire a VP of Football Operations/General Manager type to oversee the transition to the new coach/staff/roster?

It is readily apparent to me that the last two times the Yorks have placed all the decision making power in the coach's hands, it has been a disaster. It is also apparent to me that Jed needs to concentrate on getting the stadium built, instead of splitting his time trying to rebuild the front office and staff as well.

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