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Anytime you win it is a positive, however, let's not forget; this was DENVER. The Broncos are a mess defensively and in the locker room. McDaniel chased away not only Mike Nolan, who had done a very good job with their defense, but also Brandon Marshall and a couple others that he personally didn't like. In Denver they are talking about McDaniel like we talk about Singletary. Lots of dissension there.
The big test will come after the bye. This was a nice win but we should be guarded in our enthusiasm.
True, but we couldn't even beat winless Carolina a week ago. I don't think we as fans can really appreciate how good this win feels to the players...espcially how they found ways to win, as opposed to inventing new ways to lose winnable games.
exactly. When we lose to Carolina, it's a total team failure, and Alex shouldn't get the blame. When we win against Denver, *it was Denver*, so Troy shouldn't get any credit.
LOL, Alexcuses are not only to relieve Alex of any blame for his classic bust performances, but they are also to relieve other QBs of any credit for their great performances. It's funny how this definition evolves and expands as convenience dictates.
i think its funny that the haters are talking about Troy like the "Alexcusers" talk about Alex.
And don't give me the "oh, we never have good QB play because Alex sucks and so when we get even kinda good QB play we have to celebrate like its the super bowl because Alex sucks, he's the suckiest suck that ever sucked, etc." People are over-hyping Troy Smith and they're the same people who accuse everyone else of over-hyping Alex Smith. its the same delusion.
This.
3 points thru 3 quarters and 37 yards in the first half in the air hardly has me doing cartwheels. It was good to see Gore making plays and the defense step up and create turnovers when we needed them.
Overall it was a nice win, but it was Denver and luck was finally on our side for a few of those plays.
At one point, we ran 29 times to 15 passes. Alex hasn't been held down to this extent. He's played terrible even when we pass heavy. The only time Alex has shown anything is has been out of one specific type of formation in terms of where he stands.
Once we passed more with Troy (out of any formation) he did well. Quarter by quarter stats:
4 for 6 with 83 rating
0 for 3 with 39 rating
3 for 4 with 116 rating
5 for 6 with 158 rating
So, he only had one bad quarter where we only called 3 pass plays or he only threw 3 times.
Blaming the playcalling has never been a valid excuse in defending any QBs on this roster.. The fact is, we started the 4th quarter with 3 pts on the board.
True, but a football game is 4 quarters, so I'm not sure what your point is regarding the start of the 4th quarter. The game was close throughout and TSmith made the plays in the 4th quarter to pull out the win, without the benefit of knowing the entire playbook, without his Pro-Bowl TE and without starting a game in the NFL for nearly 3 years.
The kid made enough plays in crunch time to give us only our 2nd win of the season. Nobody is/should be crowning him, but seriously dude....why nitpick/focus on 3 quarters of play and essentially disregard how the game was won in the 4th?
Yes, Troy Smith played VERY solid in the 4th quarter. But the double standards around here are laughable.
I havent said much on the T. Smith subject but i mean im tired of talkin abot A. Smith, just like i've been saying since he's been injured.
T. Smith had a good game in the 4th quarter, just like i say with everyone, we won. And he was the QB behind center, so thats who I will support until, and if it changes. If not then lets go T. Smith till the end of the season.
Either way an A. Smith liker or not, there is no way u cant see the irony in the same standards that we hold A. Smith too we must hold T. Smith too. I remember when we did win last season and it was, well it is "this team". So i mean some cant be mad when we use the same logic with Troy.
That heave into the endzone say what u want was a great play by Walker and had more to do with him than T. Smith making the desperate throw. From the announcers alike exact words were, "that ball shouldnt of been thrown, and was a horrible play". They even commented saying yeah Sing probably went from oh no, to thank God. And thats ok in my book, sometimes luck needs to fall your way for a win. But had Alex made a throw like that of desperation, and it got INT'd then we'd be calling for his head. Wait, he has, a few times, and I saw no one jump like Delanie. It was tipped for an INT, lol.
This really has less to do with A. Smith and more with T. Smith. He showed the same thing that we've seen from many of our QB's over the years in the first half. And on the flip side after 3pts in the first half, half the board would be like bench him. Overall, it is funny at the double standards and anyone can see it.
This is a win, and hell yeah we needed it. He should even start next week, just to see if this game wasnt a fluke. But i mean how many times have people said the first half of the season is over, and the hardest teams have already been dealt with. So if he plays the second half, are people gonna be like ooh s**t, he made a killing. OR do we do what used to be done, oh well i mean he is playing a sorry ass team. And in all actuality, u cant be mad at either response because we've used the same words over the past years no matter who was at QB.
Just too early to drink the coolaid, so lets just see what he can do. We did give Smith years so being that T. Smith won a game, you have to go with that. ONe thing i think will be true tho, if A. Smith is healthy, and doesnt start week 11 then thats it for him IMHO. Would be funny tho if the 49ers played the Smith is still a little soar, so we'll let Troy Start, i could see Sing playing that card.
And a little laugh note. Some guys drinking the Smith coolaid, were the same one's chanting the I want CARR. And look what happened when he got in. Those zoners and fans disappeared, and are now on t. Smith. So im like lets just wait and see, cuz the thing i like about the Alex irony is at least if you like or hate the kid, u pick your side, and stay with it. These flip flopper fans would probably support Flipper, if they put him in, lol.
[ Edited by Jersey9er on Nov 1, 2010 at 5:50 PM ]